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Peter Whitman

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2021, 12:05:45 pm »
proposed:

spin 1st dial 3 units upward - 7
spin 2nd dial 3 units upward - 6
spin 3rd dial 2 units downward - 9
spin 4th dial 3 units downward - 7
spin 5th dial 4 units downward - 4

we have a repeating digit with the 7s, we have one digit in common with the 4, and it's a relatively high number for the tiebreak

Have to revise this as I didn't consider 0s when spinning, apologies.

spin 1st dial 3 units upward - 7
spin 2nd dial 3 units upward - 6
spin 3rd dial 2 units downward - 0
spin 4th dial 4 units downward - 7
spin 5th dial 3 units downward - 3

any issues?

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2021, 12:07:24 pm »
I think it is more beneficial to, after 01234, depending on how many numbers are correct, to exclude a couple numbers from the second string.

For example, let's say we get a couple correct numbers in that first string. Maybe "2" and "3" are correct but in the wrong place. We will eventually have to hunt down the correct place for them. In order to not waste any guesses, our second string might be "56783". We will know whether or not 9 is correct based on a process of elimination. If we are told only 4 numbers total are correct after that, then we know 9 must also be correct.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2021, 12:07:41 pm »
actually wait that doesn't take into account repeat digits does it

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2021, 12:08:42 pm »
None @Peter

@Margot - no it doesn't, but we do get told if there's a repeat digit. The idea is then to split into half groups from there until we narrow down the range of numbers.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2021, 12:09:02 pm »
oh wait, you were talking about your own thing, hold on

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2021, 12:11:23 pm »
It doesn't account for repeats, and I think it's less optimal.

We'd have to discuss which two digits to take out, and it's possible we remove digits that would be right as a result.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2021, 12:12:17 pm »
76073 is our submission

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« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2021, 12:15:02 pm »
still messed up, that's 16 units...

76175

... there that should be good. sorry tribe :)

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« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2021, 12:15:46 pm »
If we get a repeat digit in it, we should be able to just ignore it, as long as there's one repeat digit IMO.
Really, we need to figure out four of the five, and then we're guaranteed to solve it within two guesses from there via brute force.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2021, 12:16:00 pm »
trying to watch fantastic mr fox at the same time.....

if what i think is happening is happening.... it better not be.

not a good idea when trying to do maths

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2021, 12:16:18 pm »
still messed up, that's 16 units...

76175

... there that should be good. sorry tribe :)

I'm gonna double-check.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2021, 12:18:15 pm »
original: 43218
scrambled: 76175

4+3 -> 7 (3)
3+3 -> 6 (6)
2-1 -> 1 (7)
1-4 -> 7 (11)
8-3 -> 5 (14)

off by one

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2021, 12:19:02 pm »
76174 would be valid.

@mods 76174 is our submission for real this time.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2021, 12:21:35 pm »
Math is hard as well, so it's fine

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2021, 12:22:17 pm »
so 76174 has two correct digits which worries me if they try that first. out of 4 given digits, that's a lot that we've narrowed down for them

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2021, 12:23:16 pm »
if they try 01234 they get two correct digits as well

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2021, 12:23:27 pm »
if they try 01234 they get two correct digits as well

tru

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2021, 12:23:35 pm »
Any counter-proposal to it? We still got 7 minutes.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2021, 12:24:10 pm »
no they get actually four digits from it.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2021, 12:24:26 pm »
wow our code sucked

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« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2021, 12:24:59 pm »

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2021, 12:35:16 pm »
soooooo

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2021, 12:35:56 pm »
The other tribe's scrambled number is 79978.

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2021, 12:36:31 pm »
soooooo

Sorry I was double-checking the numbers to make sure they added up to 15!

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Re: Chapter Four Thread
« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2021, 12:36:50 pm »
wow they had the same idea lol