Survivor: Wes Anderson

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Title: Round 11 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 24, 2021, 08:42:21 am
My favorite challenge of the game is this round!
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 24, 2021, 09:17:03 am
why did the ivanhoe alliance just explode?
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 24, 2021, 09:37:37 am
Looks like Suzy blabbed to Richie because she still considered him her top ally. I mean Oracle did the same with Duke last round but in this case Richie relayed the info, it became public, and everyone bailed on the vote.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 24, 2021, 11:43:10 am
So that would be good for Richie, bad for Suzie? Neat. Interested to see what happens next.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 24, 2021, 01:05:00 pm
Hmm wow yeah they probably should have voted out richie instead of herman there. wow.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 24, 2021, 09:47:27 pm
Looks like Suzy blabbed to Richie because she still considered him her top ally. I mean Oracle did the same with Duke last round but in this case Richie relayed the info, it became public, and everyone bailed on the vote.
Or not?? Now people are saying it was Gustave. What the heck!
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 25, 2021, 03:15:56 am
home theater is back up to date if anyone wants to quickly catch up on where the game stands as we enter the home stretch!
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Sam Shakusky on September 25, 2021, 08:50:15 am
Like Richie has to be the spec favorite at this point haha. There is no way he isn’t.

I am rooting for Richie post 5vanhoe explosion.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 25, 2021, 08:52:54 am
I like Richie for his love of the theme but it’s really Madame D that has the most blessed story so far
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 25, 2021, 08:55:25 am
Yeah for real, Madame D. is the clear spec favorite. Richie is more of an antihero.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 25, 2021, 08:56:29 am
If I'm editing this, Madame D. and Margot are the heroes and Oracle is the villain. And everyone else is some shade of grey. Even Oracle is a little grey though, because you do see his perspective, but he's also so villainous.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 25, 2021, 08:59:27 am
Everyone wants to go the the end with Duke and Royal and they all think they lose to each other. Don't get greedy people!

I would love a Duke win. He has a tough path, but I think he's capable of a great FTC. Duke beating Oracle in the end would be a very satisfying conclusion. Oracle feels like he should be an FTC loser. Anything else is just wrong.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 25, 2021, 09:03:22 am
I wouldn't really blame any of them for trying to take me out here

also Richie

The Tenenbaum sibs on top of the Eli Cash challenge!  I love how thematically appropriate that was.

Oracle is kind of a sneaky sneak out here befriending everyone.  Like you said way back at the beginning of the merge, Mr. Popular.  But at least by now I hope people are seeing through it (except maybe Duke).

Yeah, that's kind of an unavoidable side effect of going on a win streak.  But between you and me, I hope they let their guard down with you not being immune.  We need to break up that Every Ivanhoe Except Richie alliance that picked up Herman last round and almost sniped Madame D.

cmon, really?
Richie throwing Margot a lifeline while she’s in mondo danger and she thinks it’s crap!

I’m sure Madame D. sets her straight but I wonder still if they can hold off Iv4nhoe… I think maybe? But then who’s in trouble? I think this ends up being between like maybe Oracle and Margot.

Edited to Oracle since that’s clearly who Richie is pushing. Don’t really think Madame/Margot should have a problem with that given his past and maybe Royal could bite?  Then they just hope Duke/Suzy will flip to avoid rocks.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 25, 2021, 09:54:19 am
Time to put every person I know has been pushing my name on the spot and ask if they know who has been pushing my name

Now that I have a moment of not being a target I'm gonna take some time to investigate who has really been pushing my name.  Anything you can share on that front?  I'm sure you'd be someone they're trying to get on board for that.

How do you say everyone, without saying everyone?

top lel
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 25, 2021, 10:16:46 am
Actually I wonder if Royal could end up targeted instead of Margot as more of a direct shot at Richie. Might face the same 4-4 kind of standoff though.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 25, 2021, 11:54:50 am
wait isn't oracle in the position where he should be swinging back and forth?? between duke/suzy/gustave (who all cut him early) and margot/richie/madame (who are BigThreats) ?
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 25, 2021, 04:58:54 pm
wow this is intense as they say, gotta wonder where royal's head is at though. he doesn't really feel like a player. why is he siding with all the biggest threats?
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 26, 2021, 12:49:22 am
I haven't heard my name come up yet and I'm seriously worried that I'm not going to get any votes and that would be so disappointing!!
Do we need to bring Fox back in?
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 26, 2021, 04:40:31 am
ROCKS episode 2? Will #vanhoe flip again? They're targeting royal, expecting rocks. And royal was the one who flipped last time, and I don't expect margot or madame or richie to flip.

Very intense game.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 26, 2021, 04:51:26 am
They’re really close to rocks this time with most everyone fully prepared for a tie and rocks going in BUT idk about Suzy? And not because she’s scared of rocks but because she still has a complicated relationship with Richie and just made an F2 with Madame.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Mr. Henry on September 26, 2021, 05:37:37 am
ROCKS ROCKS ROCKS

it honestly seems like it might be pretty much everyone's best move? unless suzy feels she can flip here and get away with it, which could very well be the case
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 05:43:20 am
Is Royal voting for M. Gustave going to send him home 4-3-1?
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 05:44:22 am
God I want rocks so badly lol

And yes Oracle should be flipping back and forth, but I don't know if he sees it

This post-merge has been so interesting.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 26, 2021, 05:45:49 am
I definitely think it makes way more sense here than it did at 10

Richie won the right immunity. It’s given him time to shore up relationships with Margot and Suzy. Everyone was way more prepared to boot his ass than I realized but now I think he’s settled into closer to where I thought he’d be. His stock price still isn’t gonna go up though, I know that much. Making the end seems like a pretty tall order.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 26, 2021, 05:48:04 am
Funny thing about ties is I think 4vanhoe is targeting the right player in Royal for Suzy to get onboard, in that she can agree easily on getting Royal out. But if it’s a tie that means Royal stays! More reason for her to flip on the revote, and get seen as buckling.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 05:48:40 am
Yeah Richie winning this Immunity was absolutely critical. And he's such a smart player capable of reevaluating his position and changing course. I love him so much.

I want Richie and Madame D. to destroy all of these people.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 26, 2021, 06:54:58 am
rooting for ROCKS to take out exactly duke because imagine how chaotic the game would get
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Mr. Henry on September 26, 2021, 07:30:10 am
So.... Right now I'm trying to save Gustave. Is that a good idea? Maybe? I'm not sure. My hope is that if I can actually take out Royal, then I cut down numbers on the side of the game I'm least connected to. Sure, Royal and I have a 'pact' to keep the votes off each other, and Richie and I have talked about working together but... definitely do not feel as comfortable with them as I do with every single other person on the tribe. I think those two are still the most likely players to target me, even if M. Gustave went home this round.

Issue - there are four votes solidly on Gustave. Margot, Madame, Richie, Royal. And none have any chance to shift, I think. So at best we're going to a tie vote in a situation where all the people I'm okay with going out here are immune to rocks and I'm at risk.

Solution - I know Madame and Margot are solidly on Gustave, and will not voluntarily go to Royal. So, I've made my thought process clear - why I want Royal out - and I've pitched to them that they do their thing, they let me do my thing, I'll push a Royal vote, and I'll focus primarily on getting votes off Margot in order to do so. What player would say no to someone offering to push the vote away from you, even if you thought it was the minority vote? Of course Margot was 100% happy with this.
The plan is that if it ties, then I can leverage this to get them to flip - 'I kept you informed all the way, I helped you out in doing this, and I'm still 100% on your side going forward regardless of the outcome here'. I don't think someone would risk going to rocks when the people they're going to rocks against are working with them.

it's like i don't even know who you are anymore!
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Foxy Fox on September 26, 2021, 08:27:37 am
I haven't heard my name come up yet and I'm seriously worried that I'm not going to get any votes and that would be so disappointing!!
Do we need to bring Fox back in?

PLEASE I'D APPRECIATE THAT <3
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 09:21:53 am
Suzy getting rocked out would be very narratively satisfying because she's the one who has been most apprehensive. But Duke getting rocked out would also be dramatic.

Margot and Madame D. must not draw the bad rocks! That would be such a sad end to their stories, plus I fear that it would make these last few rounds pretty straightforward unless Oracle realizes that Suzy, Gustave and Duke do not plan to take him to the end, actually.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Foxy Fox on September 26, 2021, 09:27:04 am
To answer the confessional prompt as well - yes I like rocks. Rocks taste good
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 26, 2021, 09:36:25 am
Oracle makes the most sense narratively to get rocked since he's been angling for rocks the hardest.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 26, 2021, 10:02:52 am
Rocks is cool so I'm mostly pulling for it but also I don't want to be responsible for rng'ing someone out of the game!!!
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 10:06:44 am
Oracle makes the most sense narratively to get rocked since he's been angling for rocks the hardest.

That's true, but I think rocks is the easy way out of this game for him. I want him to make it to FTC and to see if he can convince these people to vote for him.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 26, 2021, 10:08:14 am
Rocks is cool so I'm mostly pulling for it but also I don't want to be responsible for rng'ing someone out of the game!!!
You ARE going to be doing it like a live twitter event right?
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 26, 2021, 10:32:39 am
I think we'll move to youtube so I can share my screen on random.org.

Not sure if I can pull together another costume for it.  We'll see if it even happens!
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 11:56:37 am
Oracle's perception of Royal is so bizarre. Like he's mad at Madame for "sitting on Royal's dick"? And he thinks Royal and Richie are running the game? And Royal 100% beats him in the end? Maybe we're just not seeing Royal's game, but I was under the impression that most people saw Royal and Duke as endgame goats.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 27, 2021, 12:05:05 am
With Suzy flipping, is Richie’s plan to counter flip going to become reality? Does that plan actually make any sense? The guaranteed Gustave boot seems way better than rolling the dice hoping to hit Oracle/Duke and risking allies. Plus everyone will suspect him and be more mad at him then ever. It would definitely be a good popcorn and fireworks move though.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 27, 2021, 01:30:28 am
yeah the intelligent move is just let #vanhoe fold on itself yet again... but imagine if you rocks....
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 27, 2021, 02:51:34 am
also the sides aren't really even in the sense that #vanhoe could realistically pagong richie-rushmore under the excuse of "bigthreats" (if royal was to go here), but if gustave goes, richie-rushmore won't pagong #vanhoe because they will all want to cut each other before the end. Not sure if suzy knows this, but I think letting someone from #vanhoe take the fall before her is not terrible? Especially with royal still in the game.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 27, 2021, 04:17:51 am
I agree with you, and Duke seems cognizant of that as well, but Suzy loses so much respect and goodwill by flipping that I'm really not sure it's her best move. But the attitude that side has of their game being screwed if they lose seems bizarre to me. It's Madame, Margot and Richie who have everything to lose, because they actually will be picked off one by one if Royal goes here, so of course they aren't going to flip. It was unreasonable to expect them to.

At this point, I do think Suzy should force rocks. I think her Jury chances take a huge hit if she doesn't.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 27, 2021, 04:21:25 am
Anyway I'm sad if we don't get rocks, but Gustave going is good for the endgame, and it should set us up for an exciting path to the finish.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 27, 2021, 04:28:38 am
Very interested to see if any of richi/margot/madame can make it to endgame.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 27, 2021, 04:30:49 am
On the other hand, this seems like it really opens things up for oracle, who can now take gustave's spot.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 27, 2021, 04:52:16 am
Richie, Margot, and Madame need to stick together for at least one-two more rounds. If they can do that, one of them probably wins this game. If they can't, then they all lose barring some lucky Immunities.

Oracle is going to be so annoyed and complain so much if Gustave goes, but I agree, this has the potential to be amazing for him. Although I do think he is in more short-term danger and might be the next boot, his long-term odds of winning go way up.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Atari Kobayashi on September 27, 2021, 05:33:39 am
Hi, what should I do to catch up on?
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 27, 2021, 05:34:41 am
You can read bippy's great home theater posts which recap every round of the game!
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Brendan on September 27, 2021, 05:40:38 am
Rn, if Gustave does go, I think the most likely boot order if the game is left to its own momentum is:

7: Oracle
6: Margot
5: Richie or Madame
4: Richie or Madame (or Suzy if one of them wins Immunity)
F3: Duke, Royal, Suzy (or Richie or Madame if one of them won Immunity)

So given that, maybe Suzy is making the right call, since I do see her coming in as the favorite against Royal and Duke, though FTC absolutely would be critical there.

But if Madame, Margot and Richie can hold it together for a little bit longer, then they could force one of themselves to be at the end.

Also Royal should really be stabbing them probably but I doubt he will.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 27, 2021, 06:01:37 am
You can read bippy's great home theater posts which recap every round of the game!
Or just read the last two episodes or so to get the current state of play absorbed! Then you can read the early stuff later if you want the full ride.
Title: Re: Round 10 Discussion
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 27, 2021, 07:58:07 am
Sad way to end the round and I hope Duke will be okay. The only silver lining is we as viewers know that “side” of the vote was primed to lose so it’s not a massive game changer. I do think Duke had winner potential.