Survivor: Wes Anderson

Confessionals => Margot Tenenbaum => Topic started by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 03, 2021, 01:32:52 am

Title: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 03, 2021, 01:32:52 am
Peter Whitman has yet to message me. Coincidence?

I think NOT
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 03, 2021, 01:34:24 am
Fox is a chatterbox. I would like to find my way into at least a loose alliance with him, and use him as a shield or front for the alliance in case things go south.

Buckley is someone I'm interested in working with seriously throughout the game. I'm afraid it may be too forward to propose such a thing so early in the game, especially considering my absence last night, so I will build more of a repertoire with the puppy before springing the question.

I believe it best to share some information to build trust.

Max is nice. Everyone else is just a bit shifty.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 03, 2021, 01:38:15 am
Peter Whitman has an alibi for not messaging me.

He has been removed from the conspiracy board.

FOR NOW.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 03, 2021, 02:08:57 am
Peter Whitman likes gay books. Peter Whitman is very cool. I get to talk books with Peter Whitman.

I want to keep Peter Whitman.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Snoopy on September 03, 2021, 05:47:33 am
SNOOPY THINKS TALKING IN FIRST PERSON IS QUITE THE STRANGE THING TO DO.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 03, 2021, 06:31:03 am
Fox is solid. His enthusiasm is valuable but may make him a target later on.

He’s inviting me into a majority alliance with him and Steve and Max. That’s pretty much what I wanted. I don’t want to make big waves here, but having the protection of Fox puts me in a good spot.

If people catch wind of our alliance, Fox should be the one with the target on his back.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Jane Winslett-Richardson on September 03, 2021, 12:13:44 pm
Congratulations on completing the first 24 hours of Survivor: A Wes Anderson Production! In recognition of this momentous milestone, I have come to provide stimulation in the form of SPECTATOR ENGAGEMENT. As a note, please do be informed that these questions are being posted to every confessional in identical form. These are not individualized at all - please do not read any intent to guide or influence you, as this would most certainly breach some form of journalistic integrity that I surely hold dear as... I think my character is a journalist? Okay, I'm doing the thing where I type out all my thoughts and I've lost the plot. HERE COME THE QUESTIONS--------

1. With nothing to do but network with your tribe, you will hopefully have learned something about those who you will live with, fight alongside, and ultimately cut loose. What is the most interesting, funniest, or just plain weird thing that you now know about one of your tribemates?

2. Your first challenge has brought with it an interesting conundrum in the form of competing goals to vie for. What do you most hope to achieve when the Flea Market closes? What do you believe your tribemates will reach for?

3. As a hypothetical, consider the following:
"Someone is targeting you to be the next vote-out should your tribe to go Tribal Council. Who is it? Why do they want you gone? Who will you rely on to stay in the game? How worried are you that such a situation might arise?"

Thank you dear, and do remember to have fun!
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 04, 2021, 06:13:37 am
1. rat cannot stop talking about fish to Steve - I don't even know where to begin here.

2. While I am already solidly within one alliance group with Fox/Max/Steve. I would like to form another group with potentially Peter and Madame, as I have come to like and appreciate their level headedness. I think they will be better long term allies for me. Thus, before the end of next TC, I'd like to have this second official group formed. Not necessarily as a countermeasure to the other, but as sort of a backup in case the tribe dynamics shift or a swap comes around.

3. I would imagine the person wanting to vote me out would be Buckley or Klaus, the people who have messaged me the least and seem uninterested in working with me. While they both seem widely liked, I'm not too concerned with the political pull they might be able to utilize given the fact I believe I've made just the right friends. In fact, I believe if someone targets me it will be more likely they are signing their own death sentence.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 04, 2021, 03:19:31 pm
curious if rat/klaus is a thing

possibly rat/klaus/buckley?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 04, 2021, 03:26:19 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/iHEe49j.png)
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 05, 2021, 02:34:47 am
Royal is sort of a free agent atm

if I can rope him into one of my groups we'll have majority in the tribe

I'd rather purple group be the dominant one in the end, but really it doesn't matter too much between blue and purple

I don't think the two groups of mine will end up clashing before a swap
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 05, 2021, 05:00:28 pm
this tribe is weirdly quiet all in all
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 06, 2021, 01:44:49 am
this challenge is not going well yikeroonis
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 06, 2021, 02:05:21 am
getting this second alliance group underway may be very necessary if we lose another challenge in a row
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Post by: Captain Sharp on September 06, 2021, 03:18:15 am
What is the second alliance group?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 06, 2021, 03:34:16 am
Me/Madame D./Peter/Royal have all but officially come together. There's no official PM chain yet but we're close to starting one I'm pretty sure. We have all expressed interest in working together.

I am just double checking on Royal's position and trustworthiness before I take the initiative here.

So far, it seems that Fox at the very least has no suspicions of any other groups forming.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 08, 2021, 02:04:21 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/iHEe49j.png)

so, the target for this round is defaulting to Klaus

this is okay, good even for my two groups. Klaus lies outside of that, especially with Buckley becoming more ingratiated with some of my allies

however, this would also be the time that it's easiest to make a move against one of my groups

for example, if I wanted to take out someone I feel isn't long term alliance material on Blue, maybe Max? I could coordinate purple and probably orange to take them out.

but I'd probably make a lot of enemies doing that, and there's a swap coming... And Klaus going out is already beneficial to me?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 10, 2021, 08:59:41 am
this round is likely to get spicy spicy
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 10, 2021, 09:25:08 am
Tell us more about that.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 10, 2021, 10:09:25 am
Foxy absolutely does not want Buckley out for reasons ???

Foxy is very gung ho about wanting Madame out

me + Peter and Madame obviously do not want Madame out

likely, I'm going to make a move on one of Peter's team

I've connected with Max the least, and I think Max has the least social ties in the tribe, so he's my main target right now

It's possible we could go for Foxy, but that would be a difficult move due to how social they are
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 10, 2021, 10:31:01 am
Fox is probably a non-starter. Neither Steve nor Max will go for that vote. Unless we get wind Buckley would want to vote there, which seems unlikely, we are better off targeting Max/Steve, with Buckley as an unfortunate backup vote.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 11, 2021, 01:36:34 am
It looks like Buckley/Royal/Peter/Madame and I are all on the same page.

Vote is leaning towards Steve.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 11, 2021, 08:06:59 am
Fox and Max will be upset with me after this vote

That's okay

I think I'm learning that playing optimally often involves making some enemies
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 13, 2021, 03:30:19 pm
I just have to convince Fox to hold on to their immunity idol this round.

I really want to keep Fox around if possible. I think having the Fox vs. Madame dynamic around as long as possible is really good for me.

I feel like

one of them is someone I want to go to F2 with
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 14, 2021, 09:08:19 am
I think Foxy is doomed in this game but I love their energy
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 14, 2021, 02:44:39 pm
I mean, on paper, it looks bad right? There are 5 Ivanhoe vs. 2 Rushmore tribe members here.

And I'm pretty sure I just flubbed the immunity challenge.

I don't think it's necessarily that cut and dry, however. If I could have picked anyone to be here with me it would have been Madame, so that is one small comfort at least.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 14, 2021, 02:46:01 pm
Oracle in particular seems to like me, which is good news.

Suzy and Herman I need to talk to more, but I've gotta make connections *quick* or this could get very messy.

I don't know who necessarily is close to the bottom on their tribe. I had heard Herman before but that may have come from Sam.

Maybe Anthony could get targeted due to his voting last round? Hopefully either of those options are more appealing than me/Madame.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 14, 2021, 02:46:26 pm
I wonder if this is the time to offer Madame an F2
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 15, 2021, 08:36:27 am
Madame winning immunity is probably the second best outcome for me. And I think she'll try her best to keep me alive in this specific situation.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 15, 2021, 10:53:56 am
I hope no one ever finds out we were 37 seconds away from Madame going out last round.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 15, 2021, 11:38:48 am
Alright, Anthony is pushing me, which well, fair enough, I don't blame the guy.

Suzy and Gustave have both told me they are voting Anthony, I wouldn't think they are lying. I think there is a mixture of me hitting it off with them and also not wanting to vote along tribal lines. Plus, there's some lingering distrust of Anthony after the way he voted last round.

Still, it's not the most comfy idea to imagine going to TC again next round. I think Herman would be the only other option but people seem to generally like him.

So, I think it's really important I don't let up building connections this round and also hope that I/we can win immunity next round.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 16, 2021, 02:37:02 pm
man I really did betray my entire first alliance

oops
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 16, 2021, 02:37:33 pm
I feel like Madame and I are gonna have to ditch Peter here based on what I'm hearing
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Eli Cash on September 16, 2021, 10:05:57 pm
What have you been hearing about that?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 01:48:38 am
Peter used their double vote to try to get Gustave out, pissing off a large number of former Ivanhoe peeps

Apparently this last round he leaked information to Foxy, mainly that he was the main vote, which caused Richie to get annoyed with him
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 08:28:38 am
(https://i.gyazo.com/0fa9f90e2e9e614564a5f90f091f1a72.png)

NEW AND IMPROVEDF
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 08:47:04 am
okay so royal has lost his vote

winning this immunity challenge means I should absolutely go for the hidden immunity idol right?

i imagine a lot of people will go for it

i wonder what happens if everyone goes for it???

Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 08:47:57 am
blah I just don't want to lose someone important to me and be powerless to stop it

I feel like i have enough connections I should be able to direct an elimination I want even if I don't vote

The main conflict this round feels like it'll be gustave/suzy vs. peter/young writer

but I'm unsure

Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 08:48:40 am
honestly, this round might be the time to take out Young Writer

1. he's a challenge threat
2. he's made unexpected friends in people like Royal
3. he's a bit of a lone wolf amongst his own tribe so wouldn't be too difficult to get votes for
4. i have talked to him almost not at all
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 09:00:01 am
wait I swear the first time I looked at the link for the optional challenge it said you lose your vote

but now it doesn't say that
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 09:10:25 am
am i going crazy or was that just a reward for people who clicked early enough

wow this is gonna drive me insane
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 09:22:19 am
Hey everyone, a few of you saw an old line which we didn't edit out of the form quickly enough. Participating in this challenge does NOT result in you sacrificing your vote for this tribal. It just means that your participation will be announced. Sorry for any confusion! If anyone needs an extension as a result of this, please let us know.
ah. thank you mods.

I suppose there could be other adverse effects you only find out when you undertake the challenge, but I feel like with immunity I'm pretty much set

also like what's the worst that could happen from participating? People find out I might have an idol? that's gonna happen anyway
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 11:57:35 am
where is everyone
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 12:49:44 pm
so I think I could probably take out Young Writer here

the problem is, I might become next in line as the "challenge threat" once he's gone

although, there've been a couple others that have performed well on challenges like madame d.

I think taking him out also makes it easier for me to win challenges. I don't know him well, it feels like a safe bet
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 17, 2021, 04:20:28 pm
I think I worry about Richie most of all the people who are friendly towards me at the moment
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 18, 2021, 04:54:30 am
hahahahahaahahaha wtf is this TC

literally no one knows what's going to happen
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 18, 2021, 05:21:35 am
Feels like maybe I should just bite the bullet and get Young Writer out here, sorry Richie

seems like the best bet in terms of continuing non-Margot centered drama and eliminating people not directly aligned with me
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 18, 2021, 05:37:20 am
Okay I've pushed Writer's name to Duke who will push it to our main group
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 18, 2021, 05:50:46 am
alright operation take out young writer is a go

if he has an idol

that might actually be a good thing, because then either peter or gustave or herman goes out, it's not strictly my fault, and writer is still lined up as a target
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 18, 2021, 07:54:54 am
blah I think operation Young Writer is a bust

need to use the good will from this elimination wisely
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 18, 2021, 08:05:31 am
I'm hoping that Oracle/Duke/Madame/I

using the good favor we're riding with Gustave/Suzy/Herman

can work with Buckley/Royal to take out Richie/Writer during the next couple rounds
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 19, 2021, 05:09:15 pm
sorry for being so sparse recently specs

this ended up being a very complex merge but I think I'm seeing a plan emerging for me that I will elaborate on tomorrow
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 03:46:34 am
I also think I might just start transcribing some of my PM chains for spectator pleasure
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 05:26:34 am
Suzy and Gustave want to start a group chat with me! This seems very good
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 05:43:19 am
I feel like so far Oracle/Duke/Madame/Me have been doing alright distancing to the point that no one would put the four of us together as a group, which is Very Good if we want to assert a level of dominance over this game
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 08:56:19 am
awesome
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Post by: Captain Sharp on September 20, 2021, 12:23:15 pm
awesome?
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 12:31:01 pm
i didn't expect to win immunity here!
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 12:32:10 pm
also I have a curious feeling that I wonder if Richie + Writer were hoping to vote me out this round?

I feel like they would've had trouble but Richie has been trying to set me up for a couple things

probably not worth worrying about

I think a Writer vote here is almost inevitable, we're just arguing over the details
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 12:46:08 pm
WHY IS HERMAN SO HARD TO ELIMINATE
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 02:08:10 pm
Plus like you said, how many chances are we going to get to take at Writer? We've gotten kind of lucky with the challenges, but not everything is going to be art or watch movie clips. Like I expect puzzle type stuff to come up and if it does I could see Writer going far.

HEY IM GOOD AT LOGIC PUZZLES TOO
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 20, 2021, 02:19:07 pm
Like, I came into this round not particularly wanting Writer to go because it felt... a little too easy? I mean consensus boots usually only benefit a select few people and in this case it felt like Gustave was just getting what he wanted. But, honestly, it's probably smart to just take out Writer while he's not immune.

I have growing frustrating about Herman remaining in the game. He doesn't seem to want to talk to me, or really anyone else that I'm close to, and I don't understand how he has so much protection.

I can only assume certain people want to drag him to the end of the game as a goat. It is frustrating to me that Herman isn't putting in more effort, it feels like they are depending on the people who want to keep them around either as a shield or someone to make an easier FTC.

I think ultimately it can't last and we will get him out, but I can't let that be a distraction from the fact that it probably is wisest to just take Writer out here.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 07:37:48 am
I'm actually hoping Writer plays his idol and takes out gustave here, that would be ideal
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 08:57:19 am
it's really fucking miserable when i know at least one of these madame votes is going to continue just not talking to me

and not through lack of trying on my end!

herman you are my arch nemesis
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 08:58:33 am
i'm not even going to be sad if madame goes out here because my position gets worse or anything like that

im gonna be sad because this game is going to be a lot more lonely with only half the former ivanhoes giving me the time of day
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 09:00:05 am
like the reason pagongs happen on the show is because there isn't as much time to talk 1 on 1 with people

THERE HAS BEEN TIME
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Wes Anderson on September 21, 2021, 09:10:34 am
Who are the players (other than Herman) not talking with you?
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 09:13:56 am
Herman, Writer, and to a lesser extent Suzy

I think Writer at least has reason to if he suspects I've been wanting him out for some time

Suzy has said she wants to work with me but the amount we have actually talked is very little compared to Gustave/Oracle/Duke

I'm starting to think Oracle might have been one of the Madame voters here... It's kinda one of the only things that makes sense.

I feel like I have to believe Gustave and Duke here
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 09:15:18 am
Also Oracle doesn't seem to be responding anymore but that's new, I'll give him some time
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 10:17:44 am
this sucks :/
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Post by: Brendan on September 21, 2021, 10:34:42 am
Do you think there's a chance of rocks? Who do you think is most likely to flip?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 10:40:23 am
I think Madame is most likely to flip here. I don’t think the Suzy/Herman/Richie/Writer/Oracle coalition comes together to make this happen only to buckle now. Gustave doesn’t want it to go to rocks so if we can convince one of the Madame voters to switch, the flip is decided.

It’s unfortunate but it’s how the game goes sometimes.
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Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 10:40:39 am
Cant convince*
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 02:14:19 pm
Hi Margot. I do feel so so bad about everything that went down this round/continues to happen.

I think I should've talked about my negative feelings instead of pursuing them through this vote. Perhaps that would've avoided such an uncomfortable and awkward conversation.

I heard that you were pushing me to Richie and then again in a group chat between you/Richie/Madame. I was really surprised and genuinely hurt by this because I felt pretty connected to you. I know you may have felt that our relationship was not very deep but to me, you were someone I was super interested in working with. In Trash Island, I'm not sure if you know, but it wasn't so clear cut as everyone wanting Anthony. There was a lot of discussion about whether it was a smart move to just vote you off. I really did not want that and defended voting Anthony. I was really taken aback that you wanted to vote me out since you hadn't shared any concerns you had with me.

Since you were immune this round, it seemed like voting out Madame would make your position more difficult. I don't trust Writer that much but he really doesn't have very many options and it seems unlikely that he would be able to just have a challenge run to the end.

The round started with Writer not wanting to pagong until it seemed like it was him. For some reason he has a lot of ties to Royal and no one really objected to Madame being voted here.

I'm really sorry for everything though and I hate not being honest/transparent with people. I know this may not mean very much to you at all but that's where I'm at.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 02:14:39 pm
Hi! Thank you for being honest and ultimately I harbor no ill feelings for someone doing what they thought was best for their game, but I wish you'd come forward with this sooner. I have a lot of feelings and thoughts to unpack here, so bear with me, and please feel free to ask any clarifying questions you have

I will tell you straight up that I have never pushed you this game.

I definitely thought you were more guarded than other players, but I didn't really think that meant our relationship lacked depth. I really appreciated that you gave me a chance to late in the game and wanted to work with me. I'm also no fool, I knew that the Trash Island round was very likely to end in my elimination, and I did my best to forge genuine relationships with you and Gustave in particular because I wanted you not to vote Anthony out of pity for me but because you actually felt like I could be a boon to your games.

I also, like, fully intended to work with both of you this round and was super excited when you started that group with Gustave.

Overall, my feeling is that Richie has been stretching the truth a lot. I know Oracle has been lying too, which sucks because I felt Oracle was one of the most transparent Ivanhoes with me, but apparently a lot of it was lies. I don't really know where to begin here.

Firstly, Richie has been in my ear about being afraid of Gustave and his influence for the past couple rounds, all in the name of avoiding a Writer boot. I went with it because I didn't want to alienate Richie and I knew you and Gustave were close so I often lumped the two of you together when talking about "Gustave's group." However, to be clear, I have never wanted to boot either you or Gustave. I expressly told at least Duke and Madame I was not comfortable with a Gustave boot this round, and I never even brought your name up. In fact, I've never even heard *anyone* bring your name up this game. Literally, everyone seems to like you, and they should! I told Oracle all this to but frankly I'm not sure how honest he is at the moment.

I did play a long with Richie trying to start a wagon on not!Writer, but only to the point where I could be like "hey looks like the majority is gonna be on writer, sorry buddy :/" so as not to alienate him. But even then, I never pushed you as a wagon candidate.

I will say I did push Herman for a good first half of the round. He was the only alternative to Writer in my eyes. Idk what exactly your relationship with Herman is, but I have been increasingly frustrated by his presence in the game. I feel he only interacts with the former Ivanhoes. I have got maybe 3 PMs from him in the past week. I've gotten 5 PMs from him throughout the entire game. It does not seem like he tries or even cares about connecting with me or really anyone that I'm close to and no one has been able to explain why he's such a hard target to push. I kept trying to push Herman to both Oracle and Richie this round, but Oracle kept telling me about how Writer wanted me out (which according to Writer and apparently you is a big fat lie) and Richie kept talking about me how "Herman is too hard to push" and "that we should look to push the people *around* Herman" which I would think implicates you.

Anyway, I was and still am frustrated by Herman, but I was fine with Writer as the backup.

I also just

This is not the first time Richie has done this to me. He kept telling Oracle that I was trying to describe him in a negative light like two rounds ago, and kept trying to tell Madame other things about me, which just feels like he's been setting me up for a long time.

I think I'm out on a tangent at this point, I'm sorry for this long and messy post, I'm not in a very collected state at the moment as people who were friends of mine apparently were not as close to me as I thought. I know Duke is feeling some of the same hurt.

I really do appreciate that you stuck your neck out for me back on Trash Island. Personally, I feel like you should be very wary of both Oracle and Richie. I feel both of them have gone to great lengths to control this vote and I feel manipulated by both. I have a feeling a Madame boot benefits them a lot more than it benefits you, as ultimately I would have sided with you against Richie (albeit I'm realizing now you've both probably been working together for a while). There's a lot of things I still don't understand. I don't understand why Oracle kept trying to push me onto Writer and even lied to me about Writer wanting to target me if Writer wasn't even going to be the vote in the first place. I sort of at least understand why Richie has felt the need to be underhanded, I do in fact view Richie as a big threat, and perhaps my doing so while wanting to still half-work with him was my biggest mistake this game.

anyway I'll end the post here, let me know if I need to clarify anything, and I hope you're having a good night
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 02:20:56 pm
like holy shit

saying I pushed Suzy this round is a gigantic stretch of the truth

I really do think Oracle and Richie are at the center of all this and coincidentally the biggest threats
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 03:25:49 pm
new conspiracy board just dropped

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Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Captain Sharp on September 21, 2021, 04:12:52 pm
me on the left
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 11:44:57 pm
I think Suzy and I have started mending bridges

and she is reasonably afraid that Richie will not be cutting Writer anytime soon

Royal/Duke have both committed to revoting Writer and are willing to go to rocks

I think this is really going to be up to Gustave and Suzy ultimately
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 21, 2021, 11:57:45 pm
Okay apparently Herman just doesn't talk to anyone?

I am continually mystified by his strategy
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 22, 2021, 12:27:24 am
Yeah, Oracle started with the insulting my intelligence and now is on the "let's not discuss the vote, that's just not my style" which like...ok. i hope your "style" is to not be in the game anymore soon.
lmfao i love you royal
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 22, 2021, 12:38:50 am
tbh I think I lose if I go into an FTC with Suzy and Madame

but I am struggling to picture myself voting either of the two off
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 22, 2021, 04:38:53 am
this round is so exciting honestly
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 22, 2021, 05:08:19 am
Like, here's the thing, with moves like these that involve a lot of lying and secrecy and finagling. You really have to think through "who benefits the most from this?" Because these types of moves almost always only benefit one person, and unless you have a plan for that, you're usually playing into that one person's game.

I mean, Herman doesn't gain from this. In my eyes, it is impossible for Herman to win from this juncture. If Herman wanted the slightest chance at winning, he'd have to completely change things up and not just continue voting and talking with the people he's been doing so all game. This choice further insulates him and while it may mean he makes FTC, it solidifies his loss there.

The way Oracle went about this pretty much guarantees that closest friends he had outside of that group are almost permanently alienated from him. Does Oracle think he has the best connections in the lot of Suzy/Herman/Writer/Richie? Because that's the only way he doesn't get taken out before FTC. And honestly, I don't see it. Oracle is worried about the wrong threats.

Writer obviously will go with whatever to ensure his survival. But like, barring a challenge streak, Writer's time in this game is limited.

Suzy has played such a good game that this move would probably do the *least* damage to hers, but the problem is in the end that the Madame target alienates Duke/Me/Royal/Gustave to such a degree that you're basically guaranteeing we'll be going down next. That means you have to be sure you can survive amongst the clusterfuck of Oracle/Richie/Writer.

Based on what I'm hearing, Richie probably has the most to benefit from all of this. And honestly, well played to him. But I think the rest are just acting as his pawns currently.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 22, 2021, 06:59:36 am
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Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 22, 2021, 02:51:08 pm
It looks like Oracle and Suzy saw sense in the end.

I am taking their word that they flipped at the end. Which means Royal is the top suspect for also flipping on our side.

Gustave is a bit of a question mark but eh, I don't know if he'd have much motivation to flip
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 22, 2021, 02:53:45 pm
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that was a hell of a round

but absolutely vital. I think Richie needs to be taken out asap
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 23, 2021, 01:03:04 pm
i wonder if winning a large number of challenges during merge ends up being a net positive or negative during FTC
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 23, 2021, 01:10:03 pm
also I know I have been harsh on Herman so far, but I do feel for him as I think he's been playing a majority of the game on his phone which is like... near impossible

I also really enjoyed talking to him when we did talk, it just sucks that he doesn't really have the capacity to do much PMing in a social game. it's probably not even his fault, just a shitty situation. and like he hasn't played poorly, just hasn't been able to play enough from my pov
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 04:04:04 am
I feel it would be smart for me to extend a formal F2 deal to Duke soon
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 04:25:44 am
it's gonna be really hard for Madame to reach FTC here
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 07:47:31 am
word is suzy thinks she has the numbers to vote madame out

every round feels like an uphill battle
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 08:07:54 am
I mean if I am to trust who I WANT to trust

we have me + margot + royal + oracle + duke all on herman

but....

i am preparing to be burned here
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 08:12:35 am
Gustave legit said directly to me that I'm the vote.  That's got to be something to try to scare the idol out of me right?  I wish I had it so I could see right through that and not play it.

meant to post this early

but classic Richie
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 08:25:54 am
there's not really a "play" that can be done here

I just have to cross my fingers and hope I can trust people
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 08:26:14 am
I just can't help but think Madame going out here means I'm not long for the world

plus, I lose Madame :(
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 24, 2021, 01:37:09 pm
well that was certainly a thing

I can't help but think maybe Madame burning her immunity idol here wasn't the worst thing?

I have this dreadful feeling that I will be absolutely destroyed if I go up against Madame in an FTC, but I also feel like I'm safer in the game with her around...
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:17:11 am
so on the surface the best FTC for me is probably Duke + Royal, getting there is monumental

I don't know if I should even be thinking about that

if I lose an immunity challenge does everyone just take the opportunity to vote me out?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:18:55 am
Richie > Gustave > Suzy > Oracle > Madame

is I feel like the most ideal boot order in the absolute most ideal dream like of worlds

which means it would be exceedingly hard to make happen. it also relies on Madame not winning an 11th hour immunity challenge. and me not getting booted out the second i lose immunity

Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:19:46 am
maybe it's actually something like Richie > Gustave > Madame > Oracle > Suzy???

it hedges my bets a little
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:20:14 am
It's just gonna be hard to keep Royal in the game for that long I think
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:21:29 am
Yeah, I think there was also just mass confusion that round between everyone. I do feel like I'm being set up to take a fall though and I would like to get ahead of that narrative.

I never got to know Buckley! I think that would've also helped maybe more than 4 of Rushmore to get to the merge too. I'm always interested in talking to the mods after about what worked and what didn't.

I think Richie is still struggling to shake off the association with Writer and everything Writer was doing with Peter etc. Most people who have gone home now have been attached to that in some capacity, starting with Sam..... I don't think Gustave/Duke particularly trust him and don't see him as very malleable. To me, Richie is saying he's a valuable Ivanhoe since Herman was booted and we could remain 5 strong to avoid rocks. He just seems a bit panicked (I don't blame him) but it makes him seem so much less trustworthy to hear that he's trying to say whatever to whoever will listen.

I just want to say this upfront and to everyone. I am sooooo not interested in trying to push Madame for the 3rd time. I just need a break from that for my own sanity.

Yeah that's definitely Herman. He got really upset that I flipped and wasn't willing to go to rocks. He was saying that that move cost him the game which I don't think is a correct interpretation at all. You/Madame targeting him did not seem because he didn't flip or what not but because you were fed up at him not talking to you. Even though we had a lot of options, he still really wanted to stick by Writer even when he was suspicious.

I agree about Royal too but I don't know him as well as Herman so we'll see!
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 06:11:32 am
Okay I just told Suzy that I recognize Madame as a threat but feel kinda stuck because without her I’m dead

I want her to think she needs me as a vote to get Madame out before FTC

Which like is true

Now this could be risky and spell the end of my run if word spreads too much

But like, I have to do something

I cannot let myself be in a situation where one missed immunity win means I’m dead
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:15:00 am
I'm probably underestimating Royal

maybe Duke and Oracle is a better F3
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:15:22 am
also maybe I just go with Madame to the end (or try to) and try to make my case that uh without me she wouldn't be alive like 10 times over
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:30:06 am
Yeah, I’ve heard a little bit from everyone now and it sounds like there was a lot of finger pointing in general but also that it was the sort of thing that was just going to “happen” but then just as easily fell apart. I don’t really think you’re in a ring leader position here because if that was the case I don’t think everyone would have panicked and Richie wouldn’t be whispering in my ear right now.

Also, yeah I don’t trust Richie as far as I can proverbially throw him (I have no upper body strength). I’m sure while he’s whispering in my ear he’s also telling other people about how I need to be taken out the second I fail at immunity

About Madame, I do understand why she’s become such a target. I’ll tell you this because you’re probably the one person in this game I trust to not deliberately spread around information maliciously, but like I do recognize Madame as a threat. I sort of have a feeling that if anyone goes up against her in an FTC they’re gonna get destroyed. I mean my read could totally be wrong but I’m my experience juries tend to love overcoming *adversity* in their winners and Madame has done nothing but maneuver herself out of near elimination time and time again. I also think a lot of people underestimate her social game, as even Oracle and Duke seem pretty loyal to her (well less sure about Oracle) and I’m not really sure when or how that happened.

At the same time, I feel like as soon as Madame goes, all eyes are gonna turn to me and that’s really a situation I’d like to avoid. So I feel kinda stuck in a position where I wanna keep her around for as long as possible but also that means I probably lose.

As far as next round goes, I feel like things are going to default towards Richie, but I guess it depends on how immunity shakes out.

I do feel for Herman, but you definitely did not cost him the game. I think if you don’t really talk to people except for the people you’re most loyal to, you can’t really expect to win the game.


Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:30:56 am
Yeah I'm still not sure what happened for everyone to decide not to vote her. I do suspect Duke and Oracle have something going with her that I'm not involved in.

She has such a compelling story!!!! And she's so nice. Lol. Like unless she suddenly flips out and is super mean going forward, I really don't anticipate how anyone can beat her. I do get what you're saying about if she goes, eyes are on you. This game has seemed a little cursed in that aspect, like how 4 people all went home basically for the same incident.

Richie is indeed telling me that we all need to come united to take you out if you don't win immunity here. I think you are very legitimate threat though for the end and I wouldn't count yourself out even if you are sitting next to Madame.

I'm still really unsure of what direction is the best to go in too. The outmaneuver part of Survivor is not my strongsuit!

this is NOT what I want to hear.

NO "oh Margot but you're such a big threat"

I want to hear "yes margot Madame is a big threat and I need to keep you alive so that you will vote with me also you are so beautiful and intelligent"
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:32:10 am
well shit this might be the end of the game for me god damn it
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:38:49 am
this is disheartening
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:41:40 am
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Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:54:50 am
I guess this is the real test of whether I can trust all of Madame + Oracle + Duke + Royal
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 08:55:30 am
I wouldn't really blame any of them for trying to take me out here

also Richie

The Tenenbaum sibs on top of the Eli Cash challenge!  I love how thematically appropriate that was.

Oracle is kind of a sneaky sneak out here befriending everyone.  Like you said way back at the beginning of the merge, Mr. Popular.  But at least by now I hope people are seeing through it (except maybe Duke).

Yeah, that's kind of an unavoidable side effect of going on a win streak.  But between you and me, I hope they let their guard down with you not being immune.  We need to break up that Every Ivanhoe Except Richie alliance that picked up Herman last round and almost sniped Madame D.

cmon, really?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 04:03:28 pm
I mean for sure if I had it I would have been trying to draw all the votes and get him out that way, so in another timeline he could have even been right.  A timeline where I can quickly and accurately count drawers behind a man fixing a bicycle or whatever that was.

I know you're hearing from literally everyone that I've been saying you're a big challenge threat and whatnot, but I'm not a valid target for you right now so I think we should be working together here.  I literally haven't been able to safely say anything to anyone for like three rounds already because it all just gets insta leaked.  Saying something really stupidly obvious like "this person has won all the challenges wow challenge threat" was the only thing I felt like I could say that wouldn't generate even more heat than I already had, since I figured I haven't been at the top of your friends list lately anyway.  I tried to have a theory based discussion with Oracle about like, him being seen with a pair with Duke and why that was getting worse for him and he just responded with yeah duh Survivor 101 and basically called me an idiot, and then we didn't talk for 24 hours.

On the subject of the heat that was on me, an honest thank you for choosing to keep your focus on Herman and not me last round in spite of the fact that I've been repeatedly bringing up your challenge prowess.  I owe you one for that.

I want to get Gustave or Oracle out.  I think Oracle is more dangerous than Gustave because he's better at being in everyone's ear and he's got Duke in his pocket.  I would appreciate if you don't just turn around and tell both of them I said something this specific about them, but I can't really blame you if you do.  But think about it first, because you may just agree with me that it would be a good outcome for you too.

Your brother,
Richie
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 04:45:29 pm
honestly, it's probably a smart play by richie to not vote me out

we're acting as mutual shields for each other in a way which is uhhhh cool? man this game is so intense actually

Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 04:45:46 pm
and thank god richie is smart because it means I actually have a chance here yeehaw
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:03:02 pm
an oracle boot this round would be...
interesting

I would not oppose it?????

we shall see
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:03:29 pm
this game is COMPETITIVE
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 25, 2021, 05:27:03 pm
oh duke duke duke

could I trust you if I said maybe I wanted to go oracle this round?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 06:03:28 pm
Are you willing to draw a rock here? And if so, how are you coming to terms with the fact that it could be you going home?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Brendan on September 26, 2021, 06:04:41 pm
Also can you explain why Gustave was your initial target?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on September 29, 2021, 03:22:07 am
I was willing to draw rocks, as I felt getting rid of Royal would have been directly damaging to my game.

Gustave was my initial target because he was going after me and his removal seemed to keep the most tension in the game (with Oracle/Richie still being at odds).

Now, I find myself voting for Royal simply because... it seems fairer to vote him out than anyone else who is actually present. I also have a new mutually assured destruction type alliance going with Madame D./Suzy/Richie
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Brendan on September 29, 2021, 09:15:32 am
Are you worried that we could see another tie now at F6, or do you think you've done enough to prevent that?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Brendan on September 30, 2021, 08:40:27 am
What is your plan of attack Margot? Who do you think is the best target for you this round?
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on October 01, 2021, 03:47:02 am
I think if there's another tie, we win it, not only because we have Richie on my side but because Suzy would be on the other side.

However, I don't think there will be another tie. The odds for rocks are even worse now and Suzy has shown she wants to avoid another tie at all costs. She also went to the trouble of making a group with Richie/Madame/me this round and I don't think she would do that if she was going to turn around and betray us.

Whether Oracle or Gustave goes this round functionally does not matter. Both want me out, both occupy about the same space in my mind.

I am happy to work with this four person group Suzy created to the end. We're all serious threats, yes, but at least in the case of Richie and Suzy, we have such different games that I feel very comfortable going into an FTC with them. Banding together feels like it makes the most strategical sense for both of us to make it to an FTC.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on October 01, 2021, 12:43:06 pm
I guess I'll wait until the game is over to do a full retrospective. In the short term I'm just hurting from the blindside and really questioning the strategical soundness of that move.

It's all confounded by the fact that I feel much more proud of my play here than last game, and yet I got one place farther last game. Which really kinda messes with my head because last game I immediately and intuitively understood how my play could have been improved and what I did wrong. Here, it's a lot less clear to me what my fatal mistakes were.

Hopefully time will make things more clear.
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Rhett on October 01, 2021, 01:05:36 pm
sorry about the blindside :( that's a rough way to go out

i really enjoyed watching you play and thought you did great!!
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on October 01, 2021, 01:32:22 pm
thank you kind stranger!
Title: Re: Margot's Conspiracy Board
Post by: Margot Tenenbaum on October 07, 2021, 02:14:15 pm
lmfao peter