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Undercover Work => Spectator Station => Topic started by: Joss Carter on July 19, 2020, 05:05:38 pm

Title: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Joss Carter on July 19, 2020, 05:05:38 pm
An easily-throwable challenge and a lot of people on both sides who are either interest or should be interested in going to TC.

Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 19, 2020, 07:36:18 pm
i think judy is deeply wrong about belts and why people wear them
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 19, 2020, 07:37:31 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 19, 2020, 07:36:18 pm
i think judy is deeply wrong about belts and why people wear them
She's right that belts suuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Paul Blart on July 19, 2020, 07:42:50 pm
I think the only belt I regularly wear, I wear mostly as a way to hold up an ID card type object at waist level.  I’d use one of those retracting ID holder things if I owned one though, but belt it is until then :(
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Cheddar on July 19, 2020, 09:00:42 pm
Guys I’m so disappointed. I almost decided mid tribal there to play my idol and vote Scruff (because he seemed to be The Godfather who maybe was leaking info).

Then I was going to play this gif at exactly 8 pm

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ae91177a116b802371143305d429318c/tenor.gif?itemid=15023020)

But I thought Grouch was in a better spot than he was and I could tell he was being genuine with me so I withheld the idol play
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Paul Blart on July 20, 2020, 04:06:37 am
We lost a hero today :(
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Raymond Holt on July 20, 2020, 10:30:25 am
THEY GOT RID OF CHEDDAR THOSE FUCKING BASTARDS
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 20, 2020, 11:13:13 am
Quote from: Raymond Holt on July 20, 2020, 10:30:25 am
THEY GOT RID OF CHEDDAR THOSE FUCKING BASTARDS

(https://i.imgur.com/ruafogy.png)
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Cheddar on July 20, 2020, 01:39:28 pm
Cheddar's stance as a spec:

I'm rooting for Hercule and Grouch a lot. Leon too, and Lucifer .

I want Judy and Scruff out tho.

Postgame makes me feel very validated on my opinion of Judy in game, but I shouldn't have dismissed it as me being paranoid.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Burton Guster on July 20, 2020, 04:30:36 pm
Can we please hear from Leon, Scruff or Pikachu about this whole debacle, it's very hard to get what is actually going on and tribe dynamics without their views.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Paul Blart on July 20, 2020, 05:01:25 pm
I’ve been dead for three rounds and I still have the third most confessional posts despite how inactive I feel like I was the whole time
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Burton Guster on July 20, 2020, 05:05:39 pm
Damn, Grouch is lucky the rest of their team seems to really know how to convert currency.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 20, 2020, 05:12:57 pm
yeah there are a few solid confessionals this game but most of them are bad
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Burton Guster on July 20, 2020, 05:44:30 pm
Come on, kill Nick, I need my entire draft to make the next round, which I hope is merge.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 20, 2020, 05:59:59 pm
poirot every tc: i don't care for x at all, let's get them out
x: poirot is my favorite person in the whole world i love talking to him
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 20, 2020, 06:00:54 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 20, 2020, 05:59:59 pm
poirot every tc: i don't care for x at all, let's get them out
x: poirot is my favorite person in the whole world i love talking to him
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Paul Blart on July 20, 2020, 06:01:33 pm
^me

Jake I at least knew would be a threat!
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Cheddar on July 20, 2020, 06:43:14 pm
Also me, but I think fully grew on him by the end.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Cheddar on July 20, 2020, 06:54:42 pm
Just saw that Penelope and Nick are targetting Judy, so I can stan
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Alexandra Cabot on July 20, 2020, 10:13:57 pm
Quote from: Grouch Cop on July 20, 2020, 11:33:26 am
I've also been noticing a lot of the deadlines are still checking in, so I'm gonna hope that this means one of them is coming back. Give my boy a chance.

returnees are banned until players stop w/ this
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Alexandra Cabot on July 20, 2020, 10:15:49 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Fwobblb.png)

Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Kate Macer on July 20, 2020, 10:22:00 pm
i'll be returning...     in another game.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 20, 2020, 10:44:47 pm
Quote from: Alexandra Cabot on July 20, 2020, 10:15:49 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Fwobblb.png)

Trying to imagine this being delivered with her intonation on this line
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Officer Jenny on July 21, 2020, 12:06:39 am
 i do this every game
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Paul Blart on July 21, 2020, 03:43:10 am
It’s a global pandemic, am I supposed to have other things to do with my life right now?
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 10:34:10 am
haha judy is such a mess

poirot will come to rue keeping her around when he saw this coming from day 1
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 12:06:32 pm
Quote from: Leon to mods
hello, what happens at merge? i know that we're all going to be merged into one tribe and compete challenges individually to win immunity. does that continue until when? we reach the last remaining player?
Leon is precious and perfect and I love him and I want him to win.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 12:26:49 pm
Quote from: Nick
Lennie just told me to my face that he doesn't think I PM enough and wants me to go home. That sounds like a perfect reason to idol him out to me! And I might just share that with Jake...

Oh nooooooooooo
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:29:25 pm
Quote from: Nick Wilde on July 21, 2020, 12:17:39 pm
What if one of those allies had a friend on the other side? Someone they might tip off to ensure that the vote was split, or moved onto someone else?

Lennie just told me to my face that he doesn't think I PM enough and wants me to go home. That sounds like a perfect reason to idol him out to me! And I might just share that with Jake...

this guy fucks fake idols.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:29:42 pm
Quote from: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 12:06:32 pm
Quote from: Leon to mods
hello, what happens at merge? i know that we're all going to be merged into one tribe and compete challenges individually to win immunity. does that continue until when? we reach the last remaining player?
Leon is precious and perfect and I love him and I want him to win.

i guess this explains his gameplay
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 12:32:56 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:29:25 pm
this guy fucks fake idols.

Oh god if he goes through with the plan he is currently asking us about to make sure it doesn't break the rules, then this is going to be an amazing blunder by him for so many reasons.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:35:13 pm
go on?
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 12:42:27 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:35:13 pm
go on?

He just posted it in his confessional.

Why It's Bad
1) It's the same puzzle that was already used in a previous LSG
2) There are no corporals in police departments.
3) The Tiger Idol post already said that there were no more promotions due to a hiring freeze
4) He's presenting this to the one person who actually did find an idol while on the same tribe as Nick
5) There are no corporals in police departments.
[close]
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:44:05 pm
6. if someone posts the solution to this the mods will just go "huh?" instead of "sorry you fucked it up"
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:45:01 pm
i think he can easily get away with 1 & 4 but the rest are definitely problems
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:47:27 pm
oh hm, he must be planning to only share a screenshot of it since otherwise it would breach id rules, never mind my addition then
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Scully and Hitchcock on July 21, 2020, 12:49:27 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 20, 2020, 05:12:57 pm
yeah there are a few solid confessionals this game but most of them are bad
You aren't kidding.  It's making me feel a lot less guilty about being a lazy spec.  So many fun things I could be doing with this account!
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 12:52:33 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:47:27 pm
oh hm, he must be planning to only share a screenshot of it since otherwise it would breach id rules, never mind my addition then
This is a grey area that we first ran into when DK was making his calendar idol in Super Survivor Bros. During that game DK asked if he could transfer ownership of the form to the mods to avoid ID rules.

We weren't sure how to handle it and  consulted the listmod.  We were told that, as we suspected, taking ownership of the form was not allowed because it granted too much of a feeling that the mods were actively participating in the fake idol.  Ultimately, we were told that DK could use the fake form but if we so much as suspected he was looking at what people actually filled out then the listmods would drop the banhammer on him with prejudice.

Since that was the listmod ruling then, precedent means that this form is allowed unless I hear otherwise.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:56:06 pm
i don't agree with that ruling but ok

screenshotting it would still be a better idea for him imo
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: The Chief on July 21, 2020, 12:58:19 pm
Quote from: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 12:52:33 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 12:47:27 pm
oh hm, he must be planning to only share a screenshot of it since otherwise it would breach id rules, never mind my addition then
This is a grey area that we first ran into when DK was making his calendar idol in Super Survivor Bros. During that game DK asked if he could transfer ownership of the form to the mods to avoid ID rules.

We weren't sure how to handle it and  consulted the listmod.  We were told that, as we suspected, taking ownership of the form was not allowed because it granted too much of a feeling that the mods were actively participating in the fake idol.  Ultimately, we were told that DK could use the fake form but if we so much as suspected he was looking at what people actually filled out then the listmods would drop the banhammer on him with prejudice.

Since that was the listmod ruling then, precedent means that this form is allowed unless I hear otherwise.

To confirm, this continues to be the ruling, for a few different reasons. I'd like to find a way to formalize a mod-endorsed way to do it, akin to wrapping a real note around a fake idol on the show, but for the time being, this is the best way to do it, which has already previously been used.
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 01:00:05 pm
fwiw my suggestion would be to allow the mods to take ownership of the form (ideally by decreeing this is now how it works during a time between games) or not allow it at all

playing with "a ban if we suspect you looked" has so much room for subjectivity it would make me uncomfortable
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Finnick on July 21, 2020, 01:19:01 pm
is it poirot that's getting the tiger idol and using it on himself tonight?
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Finnick on July 21, 2020, 01:21:33 pm
Quote from: Nick Wilde on July 21, 2020, 01:19:55 pm
NONOONONONONONNONONONONONOO

JAKE YOU NEEDED TO BE UNRELIABLE WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

fake idols require finesse
i dont think that's something nick has
Title: Re: Episode 10
Post by: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 01:21:49 pm
Quote from: Finnick on July 21, 2020, 01:19:01 pm
is it poirot that's getting the tiger idol and using it on himself tonight?
As of right now yes but if they suspect Judy is in danger he will unarrest and then Judy gets it.
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Burton Guster on July 21, 2020, 02:36:37 pm
Petition to name the episode "It's Called a Hustle, Sweetheart"
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 02:53:40 pm
co-signed
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 03:57:02 pm
i wish nick had been confessing like this all game, he is entertaining
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Joss Carter on July 21, 2020, 03:59:11 pm
Quote from: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 03:57:02 pm
i wish nick had been confessing like this all game, he is entertaining
In his defense he hasn't been at TC until right now.
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Burton Guster on July 21, 2020, 04:03:45 pm
I'm surprised Nick isn't just admitting he doesn't have the idol with that response, but I guess that only makes sense if he KNOWS Jake has the idol and Jake also happens to want Lennie out.
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Tachikoma on July 21, 2020, 04:04:33 pm
interesting things happen outside of tcs!
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Nick Wilde on July 21, 2020, 05:35:18 pm
That was worth just for Jake's reaction.

I'm always so bad at figuring out what people will do. I thought for sure Jake would try to save Lennie or someone in that group would wonder why I went from strongly pushing to just rolling over to die for no reason...

I guess MS meta is just to treat idols as an act of god that takes someone out of the game and hope that person isnt you. It feels so weird to me, I'd be panicky as hell if someone knew they were getting all the votes *and* was suddenly not trying to stop that.
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Beaver Casablancas on July 22, 2020, 11:56:46 am
First OTT of the game?
Title: Re: Episode 10: Mr. Nick's Wild Ride
Post by: Tachikoma on July 22, 2020, 12:02:39 pm
judy might have one or two