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Undercover Work => Spectator Station => Topic started by: Joss Carter on June 30, 2020, 05:07:08 pm

Title: Episode 2: Jenny On The Block
Post by: Joss Carter on June 30, 2020, 05:07:08 pm
Another use of "apply" in the challenge. Let's see if we get some sergeants.

Klick was originally on the design team and as such was ineligible to be a player. That means it's anybody's game!
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Finnick on June 30, 2020, 05:10:21 pm
i'd love to see the 12th precinct go to tribal. 99th would probably be quentin unless someone wanted to be fancy and go for jenny, 27th is probably a hannah boot.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Ace Ventura on June 30, 2020, 05:41:15 pm
rip the mental breakdown thread that never got used

Am I allowed to reveal my ID here or no?
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on June 30, 2020, 05:49:18 pm
I don't believe so, no.

Sherlock can overrule this if he wants.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Ace Ventura on June 30, 2020, 05:58:28 pm
alright

this tribal kinda sucked because half the tribe just did not PM me all day yet I'm still the one who deserves to get voted out for not talking to people

Seems fair
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on June 30, 2020, 06:13:44 pm
My heart sank when I saw my face, then I realized I had been trolled.  ;D
(http://pa1.narvii.com/6827/02426e353fccac7a6f59c06d1f9ac6f9fd091880_00.gif)
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on June 30, 2020, 06:14:55 pm
anyone who's even spectated an ms survivor should know by now receiving the one vote means you're next, at least on starting tribes. ugh!
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on June 30, 2020, 06:16:31 pm
anyone who's even spectated an ms survivor should know by now receiving the one vote means you're next, at least on starting tribes. ugh!

The vicious cycle of early game.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Ace Ventura on June 30, 2020, 06:17:10 pm
alternatively, you can get idoled out 6-1, or 7-1, or whatever number, and not be next because you go out then!
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on June 30, 2020, 07:12:30 pm
alternatively, you can get idoled out 6-1, or 7-1, or whatever number, and not be next because you go out then!

I think you played a great game, it was just kind of weird on the timing issue where people said that they weren't able to get a good conversation going with you whereas you had made the effort. We talked a little bit about your concerns about trying not to go too much too fast at the beginning of the game was an issue. From seeing their perspectives, what do you think about their comments on your conversations?

Regardless, you have still played much better than me, the worst MS Survivor player in history and hence why you got cast and why I didn't.  >:(
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Ace Ventura on June 30, 2020, 07:28:23 pm
I haven’t had a look through confessionals yet except Scruff’s and that didn’t give me a great picture

And honestly? I don’t think it’s possible there’s a worse MS survivor player than me but I’ll save that conversation for post-ID reveal
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on June 30, 2020, 11:16:25 pm
Tried my hand at the challenge

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/0766ade879e2908c8cc53bc9e9082913.png)

it's alright I guess
[close]
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on June 30, 2020, 11:18:57 pm
Fun fact: This flash game has been used before in Super Survivor Bros, but in that game they played on normal mode. Hunter mode adds an extra challenge!
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on June 30, 2020, 11:24:12 pm
Fun fact: This flash game has been used before in Super Survivor Bros, but in that game they played on normal mode. Hunter mode adds an extra challenge!

*sad Luigi noises*
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 01, 2020, 10:00:45 am
PAUL BLART IS NOW SGT. BLART
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 01, 2020, 10:06:51 am
Also, I hate to say this but Scruff has been posting me 5 sentences each paragraph and I don't know to respond to them but I love that he's comfy in sharing his thoughts but it gets tiring to read everything he says especially if he decides to do 5 paragraphs LMFAOOO

I do agree with his thoughts though, just not really know how to respond to them. Should probably make it clear.

There's trouble in paradise? YEESSSSSS.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 01, 2020, 01:02:39 pm
Ooh, I made a scoreboard. Do specs want to play and see how they do versus the challengers?

 Scoreboard  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IqEIYVHNVoOaJOfVLJMG9e1RBzMMFUPM1iz2F7ddKfQ/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 01:08:20 pm
Ooh, I made a scoreboard. Do specs want to play and see how they do versus the challengers?

 Scoreboard  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IqEIYVHNVoOaJOfVLJMG9e1RBzMMFUPM1iz2F7ddKfQ/edit?usp=sharing)

I always do and my score is up above, I set it within an hour and uhhh still can't beat it so
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 01:10:37 pm
Also remember it's average score that matters
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 01, 2020, 01:20:02 pm
Also remember it's average score that matters

Thanks for the catch. I changed the team score.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 01:29:09 pm
Also remember it's average score that matters

Thanks for the catch. I changed the team score.

You missed some, Leon's is in their welcome thread, Judy's is in their voting thread
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 01:30:14 pm
Leon is 1134 and Judy is 1130 (since only the score showing counts, not the "best score")
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Abby Sciuto on July 01, 2020, 02:23:25 pm
To play do we have tO go through the form?
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 02:27:52 pm
To play do we have tO go through the form?

not really it's rapid fire 2 on armorgames, hunter mode
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 01, 2020, 02:28:24 pm
To play do we have tO go through the form?
https://armorgames.com/play/72/rapid-fire-2 (https://armorgames.com/play/72/rapid-fire-2)
Play on Hunter mode.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 02:48:10 pm
I think Chan needs a score of 1744 or more in order to have his tribe get first, but I feel 99th is going to be going in no matter what unless grouch gets a lot better in the next 30 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 01, 2020, 03:02:09 pm
Well, Grouch Cop has thrown in the towel.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on July 01, 2020, 03:20:46 pm
Ooh, I made a scoreboard. Do specs want to play and see how they do versus the challengers?

 Scoreboard  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IqEIYVHNVoOaJOfVLJMG9e1RBzMMFUPM1iz2F7ddKfQ/edit?usp=sharing)

Hey, I'm gonna put your stuff onto the spreadsheet I've got going and I've opened up edit permissions so we've got 1 spreadsheet for everything :)
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 03:37:38 pm
Ooh, I made a scoreboard. Do specs want to play and see how they do versus the challengers?

 Scoreboard  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IqEIYVHNVoOaJOfVLJMG9e1RBzMMFUPM1iz2F7ddKfQ/edit?usp=sharing)

Hey, I'm gonna put your stuff onto the spreadsheet I've got going and I've opened up edit permissions so we've got 1 spreadsheet for everything :)

Is there a re-link to this one?
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 01, 2020, 03:38:23 pm
Lucifer's tentative score right now is very good.

And yet even with that I believe Quentin would need to score almost 4900 in order to beat the 27th.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 04:19:26 pm
Lucifer's tentative score right now is very good.

And yet even with that I believe Quentin would need to score almost 4900 in order to beat the 27th.

4770 actually, which is about 800 more than the best score. A real shame for the 99th, they have 3 of the top 7 scores, including the very bed, but also have the bottom 3 so it doesn't matter. If Jenny goes this challenge is officially cursed to result the same way every time.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on July 01, 2020, 04:28:03 pm
Ooh, I made a scoreboard. Do specs want to play and see how they do versus the challengers?

 Scoreboard  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IqEIYVHNVoOaJOfVLJMG9e1RBzMMFUPM1iz2F7ddKfQ/edit?usp=sharing)

Hey, I'm gonna put your stuff onto the spreadsheet I've got going and I've opened up edit permissions so we've got 1 spreadsheet for everything :)

Is there a re-link to this one?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SysQitE6kqgGKe3nRGxMQb2w2_9RWmTNFjF-jI-UXgc/edit?usp=sharing

I'll make a thread
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 01, 2020, 04:36:46 pm
i really should be thinking about making an alliance soon

Oh no... Officer Jenny ...
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 01, 2020, 07:11:27 pm
Vote: Quentin Lance

Damn girl, that was fast.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on July 01, 2020, 07:16:10 pm
has anyone actually been voted out over a near complete nonentity before? i feel like it's happened
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 01, 2020, 07:41:41 pm
has anyone actually been voted out over a near complete nonentity before? i feel like it's happened
YEAH CLOCK KING WAS VOTED OUT OF DEATH ROW OVER FUCKING RIDDLER
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on July 01, 2020, 07:57:09 pm
lmao
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Alexandra Cabot on July 01, 2020, 08:38:06 pm
lmao
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 01, 2020, 09:26:21 pm
AT ANY RATE

I am amazed that Quentin isn't an instant boot here. Obviously it still will probably happen but the fact that it's not set in stone is fascinating.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Alexandra Cabot on July 01, 2020, 09:34:27 pm
it would be very funny if jenny went but judging from grouch's latest it seems like it would be quentin? just based on what's happened so far
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 01, 2020, 09:39:34 pm
Honestly, I'd just feel bad for Jenny. Getting the top spot in the challenge of your tribe only to be voted out over a non-entity just sucks. Also people are very much over estimating their malicious intent when they don't really have any whatsoever.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on July 01, 2020, 11:16:10 pm
can't believe this might be interesting

it will be such a tragedy if red never loses though
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Phoenix Wright on July 02, 2020, 12:19:14 am
hello, first time checking in, Hercule is going to get voted off from what i've read?
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on July 02, 2020, 12:21:58 am
The heck did you read
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Phoenix Wright on July 02, 2020, 12:32:58 am
wait i'm dumb, i mixed names, i meant quentin, don't bully me
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 02, 2020, 12:48:13 am
You can tell which players and specs haven't read the source material by seeing who calls him "Hercule" and who calls him "Poirot".

MS already has a Hercule; he was perfect and Kawazu didn't want him to die.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Holly Short on July 02, 2020, 02:39:26 am
Unfortunately it seems the 99th Precinct have been looking for ANY excuse to take Jenny out and as soon as Quentin actually starts engaging with people they're all like I WANT JENNY BLOOD.

Quentin does seem to be doing a great job of making people think he's going to be an asset to them in the future though.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Holly Short on July 02, 2020, 02:41:18 am
I expect he would even pretty easily rise above Cheddar in the tribe hierarchy if he keeps this up.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 02, 2020, 06:58:38 am
Unfortunately it seems the 99th Precinct have been looking for ANY excuse to take Jenny out and as soon as Quentin actually starts engaging with people they're all like I WANT JENNY BLOOD.

Quentin does seem to be doing a great job of making people think he's going to be an asset to them in the future though.

I'm really mad about this. Even if you have a negative nancy, gamebotting is a core survival skill. It's too bad that strength players in online survivors aren't given more weight (probably because there's no reward challenges that prevents you from dying). This is just acquiescing that you are okay with someone just peace-ing out without any respect for other players and the game, as long as you beg and apologize right before you get voted out.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Phoenix Wright on July 02, 2020, 07:02:23 am
Unfortunately it seems the 99th Precinct have been looking for ANY excuse to take Jenny out and as soon as Quentin actually starts engaging with people they're all like I WANT JENNY BLOOD.

Quentin does seem to be doing a great job of making people think he's going to be an asset to them in the future though.

I'm really mad about this. Even if you have a negative nancy, gamebotting is a core survival skill. It's too bad that strength players in online survivors aren't given more weight (probably because there's no reward challenges that prevents you from dying). This is just acquiescing that you are okay with someone just peace-ing out without any respect for other players and the game, as long as you beg and apologize right before you get voted out.

gamebotting ? negative nancy? strength player???? wtf does that mean? x)
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Alexandra Cabot on July 02, 2020, 07:06:53 am
Unfortunately it seems the 99th Precinct have been looking for ANY excuse to take Jenny out and as soon as Quentin actually starts engaging with people they're all like I WANT JENNY BLOOD.

Quentin does seem to be doing a great job of making people think he's going to be an asset to them in the future though.

I'm really mad about this. Even if you have a negative nancy, gamebotting is a core survival skill. It's too bad that strength players in online survivors aren't given more weight (probably because there's no reward challenges that prevents you from dying). This is just acquiescing that you are okay with someone just peace-ing out without any respect for other players and the game, as long as you beg and apologize right before you get voted out.

nah, if someone's overplaying and giving off shady vibes, the grave's half-made. quentin isn't long for the game if he continues to be so lacklustre obviously (he'd be a clear swap boot for one, with all those formed relationships and him still not putting in to the same extent), but the reasoning that e.g. grouch is putting seems valid enough
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Alexandra Cabot on July 02, 2020, 07:08:49 am
i think it is fairly telling that a clear boot was available and has historically gone through, and that the tribe nonetheless isn't going that way

but no it is frustrating in any case, even if it all seems fairly well-reasoned
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 02, 2020, 10:03:11 am
Unfortunately it seems the 99th Precinct have been looking for ANY excuse to take Jenny out and as soon as Quentin actually starts engaging with people they're all like I WANT JENNY BLOOD.

Quentin does seem to be doing a great job of making people think he's going to be an asset to them in the future though.


I'm really mad about this. Even if you have a negative nancy, gamebotting is a core survival skill. It's too bad that strength players in online survivors aren't given more weight (probably because there's no reward challenges that prevents you from dying). This is just acquiescing that you are okay with someone just peace-ing out without any respect for other players and the game, as long as you beg and apologize right before you get voted out.

nah, if someone's overplaying and giving off shady vibes, the grave's half-made. quentin isn't long for the game if he continues to be so lacklustre obviously (he'd be a clear swap boot for one, with all those formed relationships and him still not putting in to the same extent), but the reasoning that e.g. grouch is putting seems valid enough

Yeah, like I'm sad about it, because Jenny just...isn't doing what they think they're doing, but given having seen/been in games, it makes sense to vote for the perceived chaos cannon over the non-entity, especially if [redacted] is who I think it is. Though I also don't think Jenny would be [redacted] so *shrug*.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 02, 2020, 10:18:40 am
Unfortunately it seems the 99th Precinct have been looking for ANY excuse to take Jenny out and as soon as Quentin actually starts engaging with people they're all like I WANT JENNY BLOOD.

Quentin does seem to be doing a great job of making people think he's going to be an asset to them in the future though.

I'm really mad about this. Even if you have a negative nancy, gamebotting is a core survival skill. It's too bad that strength players in online survivors aren't given more weight (probably because there's no reward challenges that prevents you from dying). This is just acquiescing that you are okay with someone just peace-ing out without any respect for other players and the game, as long as you beg and apologize right before you get voted out.

gamebotting ? negative nancy? strength player???? wtf does that mean? x)

gamebotting - talking exclusively game with with people

negative nancy - basically Jenny was like "yo it wasn't that close" when talking about losing the challenge and being like "i'm not answering tribal questions", but like actively pointing that out is considered bad manners

strength player - just someone who is good at challenges/physically strong in real survivor
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 02, 2020, 10:20:59 am
Gamebots are perfectly fine, but they still need to connect with other players in a way that makes them feel comfortable about working with a gamebot.

Like, in Medevac Island CGI Brett was a lot of fun once we learned how to actually communicate. But both of us had to put in the effort.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on July 02, 2020, 10:22:20 am
speaking of players being whatever person, i think there are multiple players on green tribe openly factoring id guesses into their decisions? which is, really odd?
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Tachikoma on July 02, 2020, 10:30:23 am
it feels kind of cruel sometimes when you get a reaction to something like jenny throwing poirot's name out in this way, that's only treated as NOT OKAY KILL IT WITH FIRE WHAT A BAD MOVE because she's already on the bottom. If, say, Lucifer did that, he could get away with it. obviously that speaks to her failure to develop trusting relationships i guess, but i'm not sure it's reasonable to pretend this is somehow heinous and makes her less trustworthy if your name isn't poirot.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Burton Guster on July 02, 2020, 11:07:51 am
speaking of players being whatever person, i think there are multiple players on green tribe openly factoring id guesses into their decisions? which is, really odd?

I don't really think that's accurate at all. Poirot has been liberal in making guesses but that's very different from them informing decisions. The closest you get is a reference to a past game in grouch's confessional, but that's not really an ID guess influencing play, that's past game experience and player archetypes influencing play which is... what you expect. It's a fine line but important to distinguish
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Joss Carter on July 02, 2020, 11:13:30 am
I'm not gonna give exact numbers but it is amazing how many wrong guesses are out there.

The prize for worst guess goes to whoever thought Nick Wilde might be Klick. I love Klick, but I'm not casting a man who was literally on the mod team for a year.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 02, 2020, 12:28:57 pm
I'm not gonna give exact numbers but it is amazing how many wrong guesses are out there.

The prize for worst guess goes to whoever thought Nick Wilde might be Klick. I love Klick, but I'm not casting a man who was literally on the mod team for a year.

-1 would like to see Klick in Survivor.
Title: Re: Episode 2
Post by: Heiji Hattori on July 02, 2020, 04:52:40 pm
I'm currently just chatting with everyone. I expressed thanks to everyone for their support and pledged a favor to Scruff for his excellent detective work. I figured I shouldn't owe everyone a favor, but owing him one might prove beneficial in the future, as he seems to be extremely popular among the tribe.

As for moving forward, I'm not sure. I think I need to start moving against Blart next. He seems to be the weakest link based on a purely gut feeling. And Hannah Wells knows a proper gut feeling! Now that we're past the first two TCs, I think it's time to start thinking long term. Any moves I make have to consider those who would be good allies to save me from the muck, and I think Leon and Scruff are my best bets for close allies. Leon because I think we have a strong connection, and Scruff because he has rapport with both Lennie and Jake. The latter two are friendly with me for now, but I have this feeling that he's in a better position with them than I am.

Oof, she has both the best idea and worst idea.