Scummies 2007 Nominations Closed!
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gorckat Mafia Scum
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Oh, really? My modesty simply cannot allow me to suggest an award for myself. But since you brought it up...gorckat wrote:I think they call those "Lifetime Achievement Awards".Official Gimmick List:
INVENTOR OF UPICK!LORD OF THE 11TH HOUR!ASEXUAL!KING SCAR APOLOGIST!DREAMER OF THE NE0N DREAM (SUPP 2021 LAST PLACE WINNER)!
I have donned theRED CROWN-
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JordanA24 Mafia Scum
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Has this been done yet?
Nominate vollkan for Best NewbiePlease delete my comment from your sig...such an awful joke- Battle Mage
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MichelSableheart Mafia Scum
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I'm not going to take over the job Zindaras so graciously took upon him, but I think I can answer that question. Assuming that Zindaras last list is correct, he hasn't been nominated for best newbie yet, only for best performance: mafia (found here).There is no 'a' in Michel.-
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Oman NK Immune Miller Vig
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shaft.ed dem.agogue
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I'llthird what Oman said about Vollkan and Best Newbie writing a lot
And I'llNominate Atticus for Best roleclaimin Mini 492 (Finished on New Years Eve). Not very imaginitive but incredibly ballsy and won him the game.-
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May I just ask to where the role claim is placed?shaft.ed wrote:And I'llNominate Atticus for Best roleclaimin Mini 492 (Finished on New Years Eve). Not very imaginitive but incredibly ballsy and won him the game.GUESS WHO'S BACK?
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shaft.ed dem.agogue
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Sorry page of the claim.Nekka-Lucifer wrote:
May I just ask to where the role claim is placed?shaft.ed wrote:And I'llNominate Atticus for Best roleclaimin Mini 492 (Finished on New Years Eve). Not very imaginitive but incredibly ballsy and won him the game.-
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vollkan The Interrogator
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Thanks for the nomination Jordan, Oman and shaft.edshaft.ed wrote: I'll third what Oman said about Vollkan and Best Newbie writing a lot
shaft.ed wrote: And I'll Nominate Atticus for Best roleclaim in Mini 492 (Finished on New Years Eve). Not very imaginitive but incredibly ballsy and won him the game.Second Atticus for Best Roleclaimin Mini 492. A great gambit that ended up tricking me.-
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Adel Crystalline Logick
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Just to play devil's advocate, was that good play or a gamble with a very lucky result?-
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hasdgfas Jack of All Trades
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Flay wrote:He only joined in late May, 2007.
So 9 months is still a newbie for scummie purposes?vollkan's acct info wrote:vollkan
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jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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vollkan The Interrogator
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Interesting question.Adel wrote: Just to play devil's advocate, was that good play or a gamble with a very lucky result?
Obviously, if there was a cop then his claim would have been completely disastrous for the scum in that game.
In theory (at least based on the fact that cops are quite common), it was a "bad move" - but he got lucky and it directly resulted in the scum winning the game.-
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That's a good question, actually. Since Phoebus isn't around to adjudicate, we can look back in history:hasdgfas wrote:So 9 months is still a newbie for scummie purposes?- The original nomination for a newbie was (I believe) informally by Alexander in 2006. No one discussed time-limits then, but Kelly had under 3 months' experience at the time.
- I then nominated viper0933, who had less than two months' experience at the time (no one seconded).
- Thok nominated Sarcastro in August 2006, when Sarc. had about three months' experience.
Looking at the 2007 nominations, The Fonz had 3 months, Kison had ~8 months, White had ~ a month and a half, Dale_Crompton had 3 1/2 months, Shanba had ten months, Erg0 had just over 7 months, and DogMom had just under 7 months, at the time they were respectively nominated.::edit:: Oh, and Muerrto was nominated for Best Protown when he'd been here three months, and Whome? got nominated with less than two months, and Sudo with just over two months.
I think on a site more than five years old, having started in the past calendar year would make you eligible for a Newbie Award. *shrug*Retired as of October 2014.-
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Adel Crystalline Logick
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so his scumbuddy (a mafia don) claimed cop on day one, and later that day Atticus was facing a lynch and claimed cop himself. That strikes me as a player attempting a desperate gambit that somehow managed to pay off against overwhelming odds -- did he somehow deduce on day 1 that there wasn't a real cop who could counter-claim? If not, I'm not sure his claim was a good claim, let alone avollkan wrote:
Interesting question.Adel wrote: Just to play devil's advocate, was that good play or a gamble with a very lucky result?
Obviously, if there was a cop then his claim would have been completely disastrous for the scum in that game.
In theory (at least based on the fact that cops are quite common), it was a "bad move" - but he got lucky and it directly resulted in the scum winning the game.Best Claim.-
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vollkan The Interrogator
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And I agree with you completely here.Adel wrote:
so his scumbuddy (a mafia don) claimed cop on day one, and later that day Atticus was facing a lynch and claimed cop himself. That strikes me as a player attempting a desperate gambit that somehow managed to pay off against overwhelming odds -- did he somehow deduce on day 1 that there wasn't a real cop who could counter-claim? If not, I'm not sure his claim was a good claim, let alone avollkan wrote:
Interesting question.Adel wrote: Just to play devil's advocate, was that good play or a gamble with a very lucky result?
Obviously, if there was a cop then his claim would have been completely disastrous for the scum in that game.
In theory (at least based on the fact that cops are quite common), it was a "bad move" - but he got lucky and it directly resulted in the scum winning the game.Best Claim.
The root of the matter, as I see it, is whether "best" refers tostrategyoroutcome.
Does a claim which is strategically poor but which has an excellent outcome qualify for "Best Claim"?
As shaft.ed said in the initial nomination:shaft.ed wrote: Not very imaginitive but incredibly ballsy and won him the game.-
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nope. He managed to survive and win, I think that is probably reward enough.-
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I'm with Adel on this, unfortunatly. I think best claim is some of the really good, strategic, imaginative ones. I've cop claimed several times (in newbies mostly) and won games on them. Wonderful result, definatly not worthy of a scummy though.
Also, since we only give out awards every year, its unfair to punish someone for joining early in the year by saying they can't be best newbie later. Vollkan has been awesome for Months and months (curse that dayvig!).It's unfortunate that good oral sex excuses bad chemistry. - Korts-
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vollkan The Interrogator
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Okay then. I wasn't certain what the criteria for "best" was exactly - but the view seems to be that it has to be particularly good in the strategic sense. So...er...Oman wrote: I'm with Adel on this, unfortunatly. I think best claim is some of the really good, strategic, imaginative ones. I've cop claimed several times (in newbies mostly) and won games on them. Wonderful result, definatly not worthy of a scummy though.Unsecond Atticus for Best Roleclaim-
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gorckat Mafia Scum
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I agree with Oman [add: and Flay, derf]- its a once a year award, so the whole calendar year counts. Best Claims from March 2007 aren't excluded, are theyFlay wrote:I think on a site more than five years old, having started in the past calendar year would make you eligible for a Newbie Award. *shrug*-
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Seol Logical Rampage
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The best newbie award was before then, I'm pretty sure of that... it was definitely awarded to, um,Mr. Flay wrote:
That's a good question, actually. Since Phoebus isn't around to adjudicate, we can look back in history:hasdgfas wrote:So 9 months is still a newbie for scummie purposes?- The original nomination for a newbie was (I believe) informally by Alexander in 2006. No one discussed time-limits then, but Kelly had under 3 months' experience at the time.
- I then nominated viper0933, who had less than two months' experience at the time (no one seconded).
- Thok nominated Sarcastro in August 2006, when Sarc. had about three months' experience.
someonethe year before at least.
Best newbie is the award for the best new player to the site. IMO, it should be based on performanceas a newbie- so someone who played terribly in their first ten games but has played a hundred in a year and ended up awesome doesn't qualify for Best Newbie, but someone who played well as a noob and has since become an upstanding member of the community should still be eligible if they started in that Scummie year.
That's all IMO, of course.[i]The hungry maw of Twilight snaps, but shall not have its fill,
Until one man hangs by his neck, by half this curs'd town's will[/i]
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