Choose Carefully Mafia: (Game Over)

[armlx]

But your vote was placed before said comment. So either

A) I'm right

or

B) Your vote is based off of things from in thread, not pre-game

aka I'm right or I'm right.

[bird1111]

Vote Count:
CarnCarn (4): Sineish, Santos, Battle Mage, armlx
Save the Dragons (2): Riceballtail, ZTR
ZTR (2): oEJo, Empking
armlx (1): CarnCarn
Battle Mage (1): SocioPath
SocioPath (1): christiano drago
Sineish (1): Moses le fou
Santos (1): ZazieR
oEJo (1): hp [leaves]
Empking (1): Save the Dragons

Not voting (1): Rich

With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch.

Lynch Method Vote Count:
Gun (7): CarnCarn, Moses le fou, ZazieR, hp [leaves], oEJo, christiano drago, Santos
Rope (4): Save the Dragons, Riceballtail, armlx, Empking

Not voting for a lynch method (5): Battle Mage, Sineish, Rich, ZTR, SocioPath

If a lynch were to happen without any change in lynch method votes, the Gun would be used.

[Save The Dragons]

You're right, Armlx.

Still, A, B, C, and what Sineish said are all possibilities.

Sineish's assumption that there's only one possibility seems like an easy way to justify his suspicion on CarnCarn.

FoS CarnCarn & Armlx

Not sure what to make of the argument right now, but definitely worth watching.

Not really helpful to suspect both sides. While it's possible both are scum, it seems a bit silly to just suggest that both sides are suspicions and leave it at that.

Carncarn, are you going to talk about it, or are you just going to dangle this piece of candy in front of us and withdraw your hand at the last minute? I don't really respond to arguments like, "I have info, but I'm not sayin' nothin'."

[CarnCarn]

But your vote was placed before said comment. So either

A) I'm right

or

B) Your vote is based off of things from in thread, not pre-game

aka I'm right or I'm right.

It was placed before BM's comment, yes. It was based off that info, and the in-game stuff only fueled my doubts about you. I.e., it's based off both, now. I asked the mod for clarification about the info I'm talking about, and, from his response, it's pretty clear that you are avoiding the issue.

Carncarn, are you going to talk about it, or are you just going to dangle this piece of candy in front of us and withdraw your hand at the last minute? I don't really respond to arguments like, "I have info, but I'm not sayin' nothin'."

I don't know that I should. I'm inclined to think that Moses is correct that we can just ignore it for now, because, by itself, it doesn't condemn anyone. And revealing it has some considerable downside for the town.
Yes, I think I will wait for a better time.

[Santos]

I am pretty sure I voted for gun.

Fixed.

[bird1111]

Prodding SocioPath.

[SocioPath]

I don't know that I should. I'm inclined to think that Moses is correct that we can just ignore it for now, because, by itself, it doesn't condemn anyone. And revealing it has some considerable downside for the town.
Yes, I think I will wait for a better time.

Why would you state something exists if revealing such would be detrimental to the town?

Your whole style concerning going about this doesn't seem too helpful at this point, as well.

[Moses le fou]

I thought I knew what CarnCarn was talking about, but I don't understand what he's getting at now.

[Battle Mage]

You are either avoiding the issue or I just picked up another bit of information about the set up.

Or I'm calling your bluff.

Like I said, I can't see any source of pre-game information that would only make you

slightly

suspicious of a particular other player.

No, it's not a bluff, and from only pregame info, it is only enough info for slight suspicion.
What alarmed me was BM's calling out to you to "talk tactics", which I found strange. Still, it's only slight; not more, not less at this point.

Talking tactics is like, Armlx's THING. Have you never played with him before?

Unvote, Vote: Santos

CarnCarn bores me now. Let's have a ride on the WIFOM train.

BM

[Riceballtail]

I don't know that I should. I'm inclined to think that Moses is correct that we can just ignore it for now, because, by itself, it doesn't condemn anyone. And revealing it has some considerable downside for the town.
Yes, I think I will wait for a better time.

Why would you state something exists if revealing such would be detrimental to the town?

Your whole style concerning going about this doesn't seem too helpful at this point, as well.

He must be learning from Gimbo, master of Anti-town moves. >_<

[Empking]

STD, E and D aren't options. D as I hadn't posted besides confirmation, something that is essentially random for me based on if I forget to watch the topic or not (see: Dynamite Mafia); E as that happened AFTER he said the thing about having the info.

You're right about D - I haven't played enough to really use meta, anyway.
You're wrong about E - The BM post I'm referring to is 47. I make the setup claim in 54.

Unvote

Vote; CarnCarn

He was arguing that E could be correct when it couldn't have been. Since he's the person making the case.

[Battle Mage]

HoS: Empking

Joining a very easy wagon under pressure.

BM

[CarnCarn]

STD, E and D aren't options. D as I hadn't posted besides confirmation, something that is essentially random for me based on if I forget to watch the topic or not (see: Dynamite Mafia); E as that happened AFTER he said the thing about having the info.

You're right about D - I haven't played enough to really use meta, anyway.
You're wrong about E - The BM post I'm referring to is 47. I make the setup claim in 54.

Unvote

Vote; CarnCarn

He was arguing that E could be correct when it couldn't have been. Since he's the person making the case.

I don't see why E is wrong. I placed my vote before the game, basically randomly, although with a few extra percentage points towards armlx. Then, the BM post came and I grew more suspicious.
After reading BM's explanation about armlx and tactics, I'm beginning to think I misinterpreted. And no, I'm a new player and I've not played many games with armlx.

Moses: It was probably what you were thinking earlier. It's not that complicated but I don't want to simply state it.

[CarnCarn]

I don't know that I should. I'm inclined to think that Moses is correct that we can just ignore it for now, because, by itself, it doesn't condemn anyone. And revealing it has some considerable downside for the town.
Yes, I think I will wait for a better time.

Why would you state something exists if revealing such would be detrimental to the town?

Your whole style concerning going about this doesn't seem too helpful at this point, as well.

Because I wanted to see armlx's response. I haven't revealed it yet, but I will if it would be useful. It is not useful now.

[CarnCarn]

And,

Vote: Empking

He seems to just be jumping from wagon to wagon (from the ZTR one to now mine).

[Empking]

What's your definition of wagon?

[armlx]

I don't see why E is wrong. I placed my vote before the game, basically randomly, although with a few extra percentage points towards armlx. Then, the BM post came and I grew more suspicious.

Because in the context of your vote I don't care about the BM-myself "connection". That's semi-valid analysis in the absence of knowing my tendency to talk about game theory. The issue is the "info" you have that I'm questioning, and that came before BM's post.

[Riceballtail]

UNVOTE
FoS:Empking

for wagonhopping.

[CarnCarn]

I don't see why E is wrong. I placed my vote before the game, basically randomly, although with a few extra percentage points towards armlx. Then, the BM post came and I grew more suspicious.

Because in the context of your vote I don't care about the BM-myself "connection". That's semi-valid analysis in the absence of knowing my tendency to talk about game theory. The issue is the "info" you have that I'm questioning, and that came before BM's post.

OK, that's right. The info I have, much like BM's post, is open to interpretation. That's why I said it made me only slightly suspicious and was not condeming anyone. It's possible, at this early stage, that I've misinterpreted that info.
This is really the maximum extent to which I will go into it right now. Of course, if it appears I'm going to be lynched or NK'd, then it would be valuable info for the town, and I'll reveal it then. All of what I'm saying should hopefully make sense then.

[ZTR]

Vote: Gun

People voting ZTR make me sad.

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE
FoS:Empking

for wagonhopping.

Vote: Riceballtail

I've seen nothing substantial from you. Your parroting of others and your on the fence analysis of what's happened with armlx/Carncarn does not bode well with me. And here you take your vote off someone, but instead of putting it on someone you find suspicious, you FOS. Why didn't you vote?

[Battle Mage]

Players i would happily bandwagon now:

Santos
EmpKing
RiceBallTail

Of the 3, the latter has majorly pinged my scumdar twice, out of a handful of posts.

Unvote, Vote: RBT

but

IGMEOY: Empking, Santos

BM

[Battle Mage]

sarnath'd. lol

[armlx]

RBT is the king of the parrots usually. That's my 2 cents on that.

Still think CC is just lying out his ass.

[bird1111]

Prodding Rich again. He has 48 hours to post or be replaced.