Mini 681 - Mish Mash Mafia - THE END!

[letsbefriends]

Humhum, I understood it to be like what RF said. But then there isn't any lynching. We vote for the executioner, executioner gets to kill, and the person killed gets a one-shot.

If my understanding is correct, we should still be wanting to

vote

town players to be the executioner (except me, I don't want to kill v_v). If we vote for scum, which means they become the executioner, then they will just get a free kill.

[letsbefriends]

Eep, I understand what sekinj was saying now. The executioner's kill is the lynch. It's pretty much like what Caboose suggested except more detailed. I also agree with sekinj.

[RestFermata]

I definitely think that maximum democracy is good for the town. sekinj's plan is a good one.

[Tovarish]

Agreed with sekinj

[Knight of Cydonia]

I don't like it, but clearly the town has decided.

unvote

, because I have no intention of getting revenge-killed by scum.

[Tovarish]

what's your problem now KoC?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I don't like the idea of openly stating who we would kill, and as such, I refuse to do anything but vote. Scum will aready be steering the lynch, so why give them even more information to base their decision on?

[sekinj]

I don't like the idea of openly stating who we would kill, and as such, I refuse to do anything but vote. Scum will aready be steering the lynch, so why give them even more information to base their decision on?

Actually, I don't think it shoudl be REQUIRED to state who we would kill. I was just suggesting those tags to make it clear what we are talking about. The person elected still has free rgith to choose anyone, and the person lynched has free right to choose anyone to shoot. However, it looked like people were going to make suggestion on lynches and shootings anyway, so I just proposed that way of stating it. I don't agree that everyone should HAVE to do anything except vote.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I never said that I thought it was required - I merely stated it was a bad idea.

[sekinj]

I never said that I thought it was required - I merely stated it was a bad idea.

I'm not sure what is bad about communicating more clearly...

[Knight of Cydonia]

I've already said this too - if scum see a town player who wants to kill town, they will push for them to be made executioner. that way they get at least one town kill before they even make their NK.

[Knight of Cydonia]

If they get one, that is.

[Caboose]

I don't like it, but clearly the town has decided.

unvote

, because I have no intention of getting revenge-killed by scum.

You're still dodging my questions! For that matter, everyone is dodging that. Setup discussion should be saved for later, time to scumhunt.

Scum will aready be steering the lynch, so why give them even more information to base their decision on?

What kind of power do you think that we're giving the scum that they wouldn't normally have by doing what sekinj has suggested? I don't understand your argument.

[Tovarish]

In any game the scum press a townie who wants another townie dead. Why the hell do you keep repeating this?

[Knight of Cydonia]

In a normal game, scum would press a lynch on anyone town, just because it's Day 1, and short of an immense fail, it's fairly hard to find scum.
In this game, if people do what sekinj and caboose have been suggesting, the scum could theoretically make someone an executioner who wants to kill a pro-town player who had said they would revenge-kill another pro-town player.
If people follow sekinj and Caboose' advice to announce who they would kill if given the chance, scum could theoretically engineeer a double town kill. That's why I don't like it. I'm only repeating myself because you idiots aren't listening.

[Caboose]

In this game, if people do what sekinj and caboose have been suggesting, the scum could theoretically make someone an executioner who wants to kill a pro-town player who had said they would revenge-kill another pro-town player.

And if we don't do what sekinj and I suggest,

scum can still do that

. We're just making an organized system.

I fail to see how that makes me scummy.

If people follow sekinj and Caboose' advice to announce who they would kill if given the chance, scum could theoretically engineeer a double town kill.

They could do that even if we don't follow sekinj's system. We want organization and good communication. I don't see how you are opposed to this and how you're

trying to frame me as anti-town because of this

.

I'm only repeating myself because you idiots aren't listening.

You're still dodging my questions and my points from last page.

You're the only one not listening.

[letsbefriends]

In a normal game, scum would press a lynch on anyone town, just because it's Day 1, and short of an immense fail, it's fairly hard to find scum.
In this game, if people do what sekinj and caboose have been suggesting, the scum could theoretically make someone an executioner who wants to kill a pro-town player who had said they would revenge-kill another pro-town player.
If people follow sekinj and Caboose' advice to announce who they would kill if given the chance, scum could theoretically engineeer a double town kill. That's why I don't like it. I'm only repeating myself because you idiots aren't listening.

I think someone needs a hug.

If you want to talk theoretically, scum could just majority vote a scum buddy to be executioner and be able to double kill as well. But either way, they would be leaving evidence behind.

[Caboose]

If you want to talk theoretically, scum could just majority vote a scum buddy to be executioner and be able to double kill as well. But either way, they would be leaving evidence behind.

Thank you for saying something that makes sense.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Yes, but on a majority vote first day, pinning down one scum would be fairly hard, with what, 6 or 7 to elect?

I'm cranky, on the downswing of the MDD curve, and I haven't slept for 3 days. I'm probably a tad antagonistic right now. I just think declaring who we'd kill is a bad idea, and suggest we don't do it. I'd even prefer a random election than giving someone power just because they say they'll pick so-and-so.

[Caboose]

I'm cranky, on the downswing of the MDD curve, and I haven't slept for 3 days. I'm probably a tad antagonistic right now.

It's OK, bad mood does not mix with mafia.

I'd even prefer a random election than giving someone power just because they say they'll pick so-and-so

I think that the former gives more power to the executioner while the latter gives more power to the majority.

[ShadowGirl]

Hn, so then the executioner would be more accountable for their actions, and perhaps might be a bit easier to pin scum? Bah, but then again, the chances that a townie isn't going to shoot a townie is unlike this stage.

Organization = good.

And I don't think we should have to be required to state our choice, but we can input it if we want to.

Though, I don't know much good a random election will be. There won't be as much evidence if it's random.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I dunno. At this point, I'd be most comfortable with either ShadowGirl or letsbefriends as executioner. I don't think either me or Caboose shouldd be chosen today at least, what with the last two pages.

[sekinj]

I don't trust letsbefriends as executioner... she could be trying to draw that vote by repeatedly saying she doesn't want it aka reverse psychology.

[letsbefriends]

I don't trust letsbefriends as executioner... she could be trying to draw that vote by repeatedly saying she doesn't want it aka reverse psychology.

Yes, that sounds extremely plausible, so don't vote me!

[Empking]

How was I not prodded.

Vote; Mana Ku