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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:35 am

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.::] Vote Count [::.

Rishi (1)
- ChannelDelibird
andersonw (1)
- iamausername
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iamausername (3)
- Farkshinsoup, andersonw, Awesome Pants
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- MacavityLock
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- Rishi
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- Elmo
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:09 am

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Rishi wrote:
Of course, Grimmy never seems to leave the random stage - even on like Day 3. And he seems to do okay.
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Of course, Grimmy never seems to leave the random stage - even on like Day 3. And he seems to do okay.

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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:47 am

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andersonw wrote:
Elmo wrote:I don't think I'm being impatient; in the 'model game' for not random voting, Newbie 465, people ask questions in their first post, even if it's as basic as "are you scum?" - and I can't see any reason to delay doing that. Definitely, if I were not-random-voting, I'd have asked a question or two by now, so I'm curious.
Are you scum?
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:47 am

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Awesome Pants wrote:You seem to think that we've moved out of the 'stage', can you indicate the exact post where you think this is hapened?
Do you think it's necessarily possible for a transition from non-serious to serious to be narrowed down to any one post in particular?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:07 am

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It usualyl happens when someone puts forth a solid vote with a solid reason for that person, which gets people talking about whether or not it is good or bad

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Rishi wrote:
Of course, Grimmy never seems to leave the random stage - even on like Day 3. And he seems to do okay.

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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:36 am

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andersonw: No - but then I wouldn't tell you if I was, would I? Oh, the tangled webs we weave..

I don't get why people would just vote someone, wait a bit, unvote, and then stare at each other, saying "the random stage is over". That's like some kind of mystical good luck ritual - you have to take it a little further than that for things to happen, yeah? That said, KingEnigma doesn't random vote, fine, but he also doesn't appear motivated to do anything to get the game going, so
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:43 am

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Okay, so if I random voted I would have been completely ignored by you? But because I didnt random vote and just chose to "wait it out" I'm scum? Yeah that makes perfect sense.

I'm seriously confused here, but I'm going to be taking the zen approach in this game, so yeah....
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:03 am

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Unvote: Vote Elmo


It seems like you are voting King solely because you have a gripe with his play style. Not good.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:08 am

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If you believed random voting was a good way to start the game, and you random voted, you would be trying to move the game forward. You don't, which is fine; you said in 27 that you ask people questions, poke at people, etc instead. But you're not doing that. The implication is that you're not interested in moving the game forward.
MacavityLock wrote:I also think we're seeing some rather interesting reactions.
Might you possibly elaborate on that? Whose is the most interesting?
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:41 pm

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Elmo wrote:
MacavityLock wrote:I also think we're seeing some rather interesting reactions.
Might you possibly elaborate on that? Whose is the most interesting?
KingEnigma's, actually. Specifically:
KingEnigma wrote:Everyone who is voting for someone, why are you still voting for them? Apparently we have moved on, and now you all look scummy! (? I mean you guys need to pick one, you cant keep on me for not voting if your voting for someone that you actually dont think is scum)
I thought that was kind of interesting. Not necessarily scummy. Just... pushy might be the right word.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:14 pm

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iamausername wrote:Do you think it's necessarily possible for a transition from non-serious to serious to be narrowed down to any one post in particular?
No, as often some people will still be taking the game lightly while others are taking it more seriously. Having said that, it could be possible to name a post where every post after that post is a serious contribution, or at least an attempt at a serious contribution. :P
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:36 pm

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Unvote, because you made me laugh. Vote: Timeater, because you didn't make me laugh. You said "OUT OF RANDOM STAGE UNVOTE" without adding anything remotely useful, and that makes me sad.
Well, it does seem we are out of the random stage. Whats wrong with me unvoting? I just had nothing to contribute at that point.

Just some thoughts about the play so far:

Elmo - I like his play so far. Solid questions, balanced probing (mmmm probes)
iamausername - He had every right to call me out on the no comments thing (same goes for Rishi I guess), but it was a little overzealous. Too zealous?
Tarhalindur - I dont like how he's been hoping around his vote so much.
King Enigma - admitted activer lurker with his refusal to random vote? I think Elmo is reading too much into that.

I dont really have opinions on the rest of ye, not enough posts yet.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:40 am

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Awesome Pants wrote: Do you find this behaviour scummy?
I find it only a tiny bit scummy - it was probably one of the most notable things I saw on Page 2.
Farkshinsoup wrote: Unvote: Vote Elmo

It seems like you are voting King solely because you have a gripe with his play style. Not good.
I don't like this. I think that Elmo has a legitimate gripe with what KE is doing. It's not just play style.
Timeater wrote:Well, it does seem we are out of the random stage. Whats wrong with me unvoting? I just had nothing to contribute at that point.
There's nothing wrong with unvoting at that point. But, if we're out of the random stage, you should have something to say. Your post seemed like you were trying to not make any waves and were trying to look as inconspicuous and uncontroversial as possible.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:40 am

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Rishi wrote:I think that Elmo has a legitimate gripe with what KE is doing. It's not just play style.
I also think that Elmo has a legitimate gripe with KE. But that's not the issue. The question here should be: is KE's behaviour thus far a scumtell, or a null tell? I say it's a null tell because that's his meta. Of course, it doesn't mean that he's not scum, but I'd like Elmo (or anyone else) to make more of a case for it.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:37 am

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Actually, I think people are being a little hard on KingEnigma. It's like, because KE doesn't random vote, there's suddenly all this pressure on him to make an amazing post that suddenly makes the game super-serious and gives us all an untold wealth of beautiful, delicious information. And the rest of us can just sit back and wait for him to get on with it, because hey,
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Elmo wrote:If you believed random voting was a good way to start the game, and you random voted, you would be trying to move the game forward. You don't, which is fine; you said in 27 that you ask people questions, poke at people, etc instead. But you're not doing that.
Like this. What do you think the last paragraph of #41 was, if not asking questions and poking at people?

In fact, I think he had a very good question there, and I'd like to hear some answers. Why is everyone voting the person they are voting for? Elmo and Fark are the only ones with any particular reasoning behind their votes that I can see.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:50 am

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iamausername wrote: In fact, I think he had a very good question there, and I'd like to hear some answers. Why is everyone voting the person they are voting for? Elmo and Fark are the only ones with any particular reasoning behind their votes that I can see.
My vote's on CDB. Started as random, but I don't see the need to remove it until he starts participating.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:55 am

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I have a meta? Dude, do I need to get a prescription for that? Would I need to let my wife know, or am I okay in keeping her in the dark?

and iamausername, shhh don't let people on to reading what I wrote, they may get the wrong impression that I'm trying to participate.

I want to vote for Elmo, but thats mostly because Elmo hurt my feelings....but I may get over it, but it'll take time.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:06 am

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[offtopic]Does anyone else get the feeling that this is a large theme whenever they look at this thread? Or is it just me? (it's probably because of the fancy OPs)[/offtopic]
Grimmy wrote:It usualyl happens when someone puts forth a solid vote with a solid reason for that person, which gets people talking about whether or not it is good or bad
Why did you answer a question directed at Awesome Pants?
iamausername wrote:In fact, I think he had a very good question there, and I'd like to hear some answers.
I would say that I am still voting for you because it still seems that we are in random voting. Also, I generally don't unvote unless if I think someone else is scummy enough for them to deserve a vote (or if s/he is close to being lynched and I want more discussion).
Also, were you deliberately exaggerating in the first part of this post? It seems like a bit of an overrepresentation or what's going on with KE now, although I agree with the general idea of it.
Timeater wrote: King Enigma - admitted activer lurker with his refusal to random vote?
I don't see how taking a "zen approach" correlates to being an "active lurker".
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:35 pm

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KingEnigma wrote:I want to vote for Elmo, but thats mostly because Elmo hurt my feelings....but I may get over it, but it'll take time.
Translation: I want to OMGUS, but I'm afraid someone might notice. I'm quite happy with my random vote for the moment.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:47 pm

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uhh, ohmygodyousuck votes are glorified random votes, do we really need to get back into this discussion?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:48 pm

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KingEnigma wrote:uhh, ohmygodyousuck votes are glorified random votes, do we really need to get back into this discussion?
That is completely and utterly false once the vote you'd be OMGUS-ing isn't random. Elmo's vote on you is not random.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:58 pm

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no, but if my vote for him is for nothing other than the fact that he voted for me? Where is the basis of the vote? Is that scummy or am I jumping my emotions? If I put thought into it (which, i will admit I have not at this point) then maybe it wouldnt be so much, "you suck!", but more along the lines of "Well, it may appear this way, but in fact....."

But in this particular case, Elmo is being a bit bullying towards me, but i'm not seeing this as overtly scummy, so therefore my vote wouldnt be placed on who i think is scum, it would be there to say "oh my god you suck" and that is very much a glorified random vote...
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:00 pm

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OH!

and i dont know who is scum yet, before you guys go "Well, who do you think IS scum?"
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:00 pm

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Iam: I don't think there's
undue
pressure on him to make information happen. I don't support the view that all one needs to do is random vote, but I don't see that opinion as scummy. 41 looks like criticism of the random stage, the last part asking people about it; but I think he said it's pointless, so why ask about it? Why are you speaking up for him, pray tell? (Also.. preferred shortening of your name? :))

Fark: Not random voting is null. As far as I know, his meta is that he asks questions (etc) instead; I count not doing (or delaying) that as a small scumtell. Do you follow my train of thought, here?
KingEnigma wrote:I want to vote for Elmo, but thats mostly because Elmo hurt my feelings....but I may get over it, but it'll take time.
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I'm curious to know what a "zen approach" is, though.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:54 pm

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KingEnigma wrote:no, but if my vote for him is for nothing other than the fact that he voted for me? Where is the basis of the vote?
... Do you think that Elmo's vote for you is scummy? Do you think that, given what you currently know, Elmo is the most likely player to be scum? If you do, you should be voting for him.
But in this particular case, Elmo is being a bit bullying towards me, but i'm not seeing this as overtly scummy, so therefore my vote wouldnt be placed on who i think is scum, it would be there to say "oh my god you suck" and that is very much a glorified random vote...
That sounds amazingly wishy-washy for the random stage.

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