Mini 671 - Dwarf Fortress - Game Over!

Verbal · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:25 am

Vote: CoheedCambria09

because i dislike that band.

Mariyta · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:13 am

Timeater wrote:Awww Mariyta are you angry at me from last game? It wasn't my fault!! >.<

No, it's a preemptive OMGUS, since you're probably going to try to pick a "random" person for a day 1 lynch again.

Ramus, TE is just over-eager sometimes and has very very very little patience.

Ramus · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:21 am

Mariyta wrote:Ramus, TE is just over-eager sometimes and has very very very little patience.

Whatever then.
Anyway, random voting sucks, so....

Punch of Suspicion at Roffman for apparently loving bandwagoning early. Care to explain why? Because I personally find early bandwagons a bad idea due to the fact that they don't allow us to get much information and end the day way too fast.

Timeater · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:26 am

What're you talking about, I did no such thing. *bitchslaps* >:O

For those you dont know Mariyta is very moody and sometimes sincerly lacking in initiative and reasoning abilities.

@Ramus thats a pretty crazy fist of suspicion for a joke/random vote. Seriously, that should be reserved for something like "oh me and my partner killed Bob last night. Oh wait JUST KIDDING LOL"

Ramus · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:35 am

Nah, I've got a lot more than just that image at my disposal. Don't worry, you'll see plenty more.

Mariyta · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:45 am

Timeater wrote:What're you talking about, I did no such thing. *bitchslaps* >:O

For those you dont know Mariyta is very moody and sometimes sincerly lacking in initiative and reasoning abilities.

@Ramus thats a pretty crazy fist of suspicion for a joke/random vote. Seriously, that should be reserved for something like "oh me and my partner killed Bob last night. Oh wait JUST KIDDING LOL"

Pulling out the claws already? Nice. I was only joking, but if that's the way you want it, more power to ya.

Timeater · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:47 am

Claws schmaws. I jest, I jest.

iLord · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:11 am

Ramus just seems overeager - that's a weak attack to be pushing.

CoheedCambria09 · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:56 pm

/confirm

sorry for absense, got busy and couldnt get on. will be here more frequently now.

roffman · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:04 pm

The entire point for an early bandwagon is to get some sort of discussion happening and end the random voting stage

CoheedCambria09 · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:16 pm

OMGUS

vote:Verbal

Ramus · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:00 pm

roffman wrote:The entire point for an early bandwagon is to get some sort of discussion happening and end the random voting stage

Well, apparently you weren't doing it so well cause it didn't end the random voting.

Claus · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:27 pm

The History of Oslavanthez:

The heroic battle between the "Honored Axes" and Stettad, the dragon, at the doorstep of Oslavanthez. The dragon was slain without a single casualty to Oslavanthez forces, but the entrance hall still bears the scorch marks. That night, a great feast of roasted dragon meat was partaken by all.

Vote Count!

Timeater 2 - Andersonw, roffman
Roffman 2 - iLord, Timeater
Tuberkulos 1 - Pesco47
andersonw 1 - Mariyta
CoheedCambria 1 - Verbal
Verbal 1 - CoheedCambria

With 12 creatures alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Pesco47 · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:24 pm

It's too early to be pulling pictures like those. But I don't think Ramus was being serious anyway with no follow-up FoS or vote.

roffman · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:53 pm

Ramus wrote:
roffman wrote:The entire point for an early bandwagon is to get some sort of discussion happening and end the random voting stage
Well, apparently you weren't doing it so well cause it didn't end the random voting.

that's because two votes really don't generate a bandwagon

. i was hoping some other people would either bandwagon with me or against me

Tuberkulos · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:01 pm

Random voting is the easiest way to get a discussion going. Not always the best way, but nonetheless the easiest.

##Vote: roffman

reborn537 · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:14 am

Wow I can't believe I forgot about this game, I'm such a loser.

Why are there 3 votes on roffman, is it because of his early wagon?

Tuberkulos · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:37 am

I didn't vote him for any particular reason. He did however indeed want an early wagon. But as he said himself, the first day is often just a "bandwagon-day". Let's just hope for a lucky hit.

iLord · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:05 am

The wagon of roffman's just a joke.

Tuberkulos's vote, however, was not.

We don't wagon randomly. We wait until scum screws up and then jump on him. "Hoping for a lucky hit" benefits the scum infinitely as opposed to discussion.

The day will start naturally - no need to force it. But when a player crosses the line from overeagerness to oppertunism, that's the time to jump.

Unvote, Vote Tuberkulos for blatant wagoning for the sake of wagoning.

Tuberkulos · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:36 am

[quote="iLord"]The wagon of roffman's just a joke.[quote]

I think roffman made it pretty clear that he tried to start a wagon... But for some reason my wagon is scummy? Interesting...

Unvote

Vote iLord

Tuberkulos · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:37 am

iLord wrote:The wagon of roffman's just a joke.

I think roffman made it pretty clear that he tried to start a wagon... But for some reason my wagon is scummy? Interesting...

Unvote

Vote iLord

andersonw · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:51 am

I don't believe that the first day is just waiting around until scum screws up, we should be "seeking out" the scum. However, it is also definitely not lynching someone randomly and hoping to get lucky.

Tuberkulos:
There's a couple of threads in the mafia discussion forum that have info about first days, and reading them could help with some of the misconceptions of day 1. Here's one
Also, please explain your vote. Did you vote iLord because he voted you?

reborn537 wrote: Why are there 3 votes on roffman, is it because of his early wagon?

If you read what's happened, it seems clear that the first two votes on roffman were pretty much joke votes, and then Tuberkulos "joined" the wagon, but to me, it doesn't seem like much of a scumtell since he seems sincere about it (yes, this is a gut feeling).

iLord · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:53 am

I suppose "joke" is not the word I meant here.

What I mean is that Roffman and Ramus were just eager to start the day.

You were opertunistic to lynch a random townie.

Nice OMGUS by the way. Good to see your first line of defense is voting the person who voted you.

Tuberkulos · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:09 pm

@ iLord: Ok, so if I got this strait; According to you, I just wants a random lynch, even though I stated that I thought roffman's "eagerness" was a bit suspicious. As I see it, atleast I had a more reasonable basis (a hunch if you like) for my vote than both Ramus and Roffman.

Besides, if I wanted to lynch someone quick, I would stay with Roffman since he already has two votes and you none.

Ramus · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:28 pm

I'm currently laughing at the logic going around right now.

iLord already had 2 votes before you voted for him, Tuberkulos, so that last point is invalid.

Meantime, iLord votes Tuber for bandwagoning just for the sake of it despite the fact that Tuber says that he was trying to get discussion going. Also, the chances of us hitting scum the first day are very low. Therefore, I'd shoot for having as much discussion (read: chaos and pointing fingers) as possible the first day and avoid ending it too soon. This way we at least get plenty of information.

So, I think I will refrain from voting either right now since Tuber is at L-2 and I don't need an idiot to end the day early and iLord doesn't so much strike me as scummy as just offensive playing townie. Anyway, I'm just going to shoot for the fact that iLord is being overly eager and trying to get Tuber to cough up some evidence and that Tuber is also being overly eager, attempting to get discussion going with bandwagoning.

Also: Reborn, read the topic and find out for yourself.