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Post Post #3325 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:04 pm

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marcistar try not to base her reads on the hood challenge (impossible)
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Post Post #3326 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:06 pm

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In post 3325, marcistar wrote: marcistar try not to base her reads on the hood challenge (impossible)
See this meme is the best meme so you can't scum read Marci folks.
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Post Post #3327 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:11 pm

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Did you two sync yet
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Post Post #3328 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:12 pm

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Nope I just got back from the art deco (and modernist and post modernist) boat tour lol.
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Post Post #3329 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:14 pm

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i generally like pooky's reads and found myself swayed by a couple of them

i think i generally disagree with spiffeh's solving approach and it makes me gut scumread him but he's probably town

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Post Post #3330 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:24 pm

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In post 3167, Bingle wrote:
In post 3165, Spiffeh wrote: I dislike Shello's argument about his Brian Skies vote and it feels a little cherry-picked to have a reason to scum read him. I don't know how well I can articulate or substantiate this but I get the vibe that Shello entered their Cakez opinion with the intention of scum reading him in general.
You're not allowed to post something that makes me scumread you and then preempt my poke at skitter like this in a way that makes me townread you. Bad mouse wizard.
Maybe I should reconsider my Spiffeh scumread. I do think they are making good arguments. Maybe I should be considering Firebringer too. This is due to me thinking there is mafia in our neighborhood which is also not confirmed I guess. Though I'm also not sure on SirCakez.
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Post Post #3331 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:28 pm

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In post 3171, Bingle wrote:
In post 3125, Dunnstral wrote: where this game am I bad faith?
Your whole preoccupation with my ngaf about what seems to be a vanilla hood and trying to make a big deal of it seems like busy work designed to make me look scummy, not a genuine belief that I'm supposed to care about who is in a neighborhood I haven't even tried reading for content more as town.

Yes, there is an OP with the neighborlist. No, there is nothing AI about not giving a shit about who the 6 people in that list are. Mechanically, I'm like 98% sure that neighborhood comp is nonrandom and I still don't give a shit about the neighborlist because until I have a good grasp of the game design and a good grasp of the game state that knowledge is worthless at best and likely to cause bias in my reading at worst.
This wasn't exactly my argument.

You posted that you popped into the neighborhood and saw hermit crab and firebringer talking. I pointed out that I was at the top of that page so it seemed a bit fake for you to go there and scroll to the bottom.
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Post Post #3332 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:28 pm

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In post 3311, Firebringer wrote: i don't see the reasons for cakez scum. I know i misread him all the time so im going to outsource my read on him but like wtf is the case there?

I repeat what i said like 10 pages agon brian skies, I get the feeling and reason he is wagoned. ITs just the fact he is always wagoned day 1 in games i play with him and he is always town when it happens that makes me go that this is bad.

I just really want to elim bingle and im too lazy to case him or lead the charge there. Nor do i think anyone will listen to me (but honestly just using that as an excuse not to put in the effort to try)
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Post Post #3333 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 1:33 pm

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In post 3330, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3167, Bingle wrote:
In post 3165, Spiffeh wrote: I dislike Shello's argument about his Brian Skies vote and it feels a little cherry-picked to have a reason to scum read him. I don't know how well I can articulate or substantiate this but I get the vibe that Shello entered their Cakez opinion with the intention of scum reading him in general.
You're not allowed to post something that makes me scumread you and then preempt my poke at skitter like this in a way that makes me townread you. Bad mouse wizard.
Maybe I should reconsider my Spiffeh scumread. I do think they are making good arguments. Maybe I should be considering Firebringer too. This is due to me thinking there is mafia in our neighborhood which is also not confirmed I guess. Though I'm also not sure on SirCakez.
What's your read on Bingle?
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Post Post #3334 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:04 pm

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How many times do I have to say it?
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Post Post #3335 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:15 pm

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In post 3332, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 3311, Firebringer wrote: i don't see the reasons for cakez scum. I know i misread him all the time so im going to outsource my read on him but like wtf is the case there?

I repeat what i said like 10 pages agon brian skies, I get the feeling and reason he is wagoned. ITs just the fact he is always wagoned day 1 in games i play with him and he is always town when it happens that makes me go that this is bad.

I just really want to elim bingle and im too lazy to case him or lead the charge there. Nor do i think anyone will listen to me (but honestly just using that as an excuse not to put in the effort to try)
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What part?
Brian Skies - "
I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup.
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Post Post #3336 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:16 pm

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Does anyone actually town read StD based on in thread content or is all the good stuff in the hood apparently?
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Post Post #3337 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:17 pm

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I think the latter apparently

Agreed that fb seems kinda sus

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Post Post #3338 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:32 pm

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In post 3334, Hermit Crab wrote: How many times do I have to say it?
Seven more!
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Post Post #3339 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:34 pm

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Guess pooky is actually town. Good to know.
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Post Post #3340 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:42 pm

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See? All hail PP, he is new Katniss.
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Post Post #3341 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:43 pm

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In post 3335, SirCakez wrote:
In post 3332, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 3311, Firebringer wrote: i don't see the reasons for cakez scum. I know i misread him all the time so im going to outsource my read on him but like wtf is the case there?

I repeat what i said like 10 pages agon brian skies, I get the feeling and reason he is wagoned. ITs just the fact he is always wagoned day 1 in games i play with him and he is always town when it happens that makes me go that this is bad.

I just really want to elim bingle and im too lazy to case him or lead the charge there. Nor do i think anyone will listen to me (but honestly just using that as an excuse not to put in the effort to try)
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What part?
a) it feels whiteknight-y of you while not really committing to the townread

b) I guess I'm surprised by how much he wants Bingle
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Post Post #3342 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 2:51 pm

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In post 3152, Hermit Crab wrote: Spiff can you flip through that ISO I linked and Cakez iso here for me pls
While I agree he sounds similar tonally to Xenoblade 2, the actual content provided here is a step above which makes this not the best comparison imo

I do find aspects of Pooky's case on Cakez compelling, but still at the point where I want Brian over anyone.
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Post Post #3343 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:09 pm

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I'm thinking I might end up on Brian, because Herr thinks we get way more info from that flip but I think both are scum.
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Post Post #3344 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:10 pm

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In post 3237, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3235, marcistar wrote: I think morph is getting 3 cuz i said if we want mechanics we need to wait until 2 shots can go off so we can get accurate info. But then said it isnt realistic.
This sounds like a bad idea to me. I've never seen an invention-receiver able to use more than one invention in a night phase.

At least check with ceph on that.
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Post Post #3345 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:13 pm

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In post 3239, Bingle wrote:
In post 3235, marcistar wrote: I think morph is getting 3 cuz i said if we want mechanics we need to wait until 2 shots can go off so we can get accurate info. But then said it isnt realistic.
WRT dethy hood:

Claim the N1 invent and result on the first available day. Claim the N2 invent and result on the second available day. Claim the N3 invent and result on the third available day -> first time when usage of that information should be powerful. As such, dethy hood probably goes untested for a few days and we should focus on solving outside it for now.

I have a pet theory that it's 2 in our hood 2 in no hood 1 in dethy scum wise, but that theory is ungrounded and thus not worth acting on. It does mean that I'm not really interested in delineating between in our hood or not in our hood for limming, because legitimately 0-4 is the reasonable numbers I could see being scum in our hood and that's like... completely useless. I'll probably want to reevaluate that post massclaim. I feel better about a cakez lim post pooky case. Massclaim probably on D3 when scum have committed to killing in the dethy hood or not.
For this post too. Something bad happens if mafia are still in the hood by an unspecified time. I think if we get to day 4 we likely trip that. Though if we don't care about that and want to try to be more accurate by waiting for longer that is a choice that can be made. Not a bad one either, potentially.
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Post Post #3346 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:14 pm

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In post 3340, Hermit Crab wrote: See? All hail PP, he is new Katniss.
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Post Post #3347 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:15 pm

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In post 3243, Bingle wrote: sunflower

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Invent target pools. I think I got everyone and didn't double up.
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Post Post #3348 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:19 pm

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And CSF claimed miller in her first post.
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Post Post #3349 (ISO) » Sun May 05, 2024 3:20 pm

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though that's a consideration for the invention receivers.

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