I noticed, I was going to leave it alone and let you two hash it out. For the record, I am not particularly bothered by the things you have pointed out.
Your flip on them does strengthen my town read on you though which makes me happy!
That big post seems like discrediting morphs thoughts without actually pushing them.
Was the dephy stuff really such a shining star?
I think scum have a VERY hard time making that "realization" seem genuine and natural like they did. This coupled with the immediate transition into town locking certain players for their reactions to it (most of which I agreed with) felt very pro-Town.
I also liked them harping on Pooky for not understanding and them ultimately coming around to a Pooky townread based on his response.
I know ffery says I am overstating the mindmeld but the above is what sold me.
Has anyone considered that perhaps fighting for page tops may artificially inflate this game's size and contribute to apathy in players who fall behind?
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
My general approach to morph rn is:
-> if they're town will likely die before elo
-> there are people here who can read both of them way better than me
-> i don't see them directing the thread towards something i find overly catastrophic/suspiciois/manipulative atm
So i'm kinda just letting them be atm, if one of those conditions changes will re-evaluate
Lightly townreading them, maybe, with a lot of caveats and kinda just want to take a wait and see approach
In post 2505, Oblivion wrote:
Has anyone considered that perhaps fighting for page tops may artificially inflate this game's size and contribute to apathy in players who fall behind?
Apologies that... May have sounded like more of a chastizement/admonishment than it intended. It understands the fun of doing it but the game is now across the century threshold in page count on the first day and it worries.
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
In post 2508, Dannflor wrote:
the main thing i will fight against is morph's dichotomy of sunflower/klick
i do not want the lim locked between those two
Okay, so here is a question. Actually a series of questions?
Do you think it is correct to eliminate inside or outside the Dethy today?
What are your reads on the 5 dethy members?
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
I just want to lim scum, you see.
If mod bothered to put dethy in the hood, I assume he expect to see it played out, so we probably have until like Day 3 to lim scum in there anyway.
In post 2510, Oblivion wrote:
Okay, so here is a question. Actually a series of questions?
Do you think it is correct to eliminate inside or outside the Dethy today?
What are your reads on the 5 dethy members?
I think Klick and Sunflower are town
I think ActionDan is weakly town
I don't really have a read on STD
I think marci is scummy
I don't know if it's correct to eliminate inside or outside the dethy. I think it's probably healthier for the overall game state if it's at least an option to eliminate outside.
what I do know is that I don't want the lim locked between two (imo very strong) players who I also think are town
That big post seems like discrediting morphs thoughts without actually pushing them.
Was the dephy stuff really such a shining star?
I think scum have a VERY hard time making that "realization" seem genuine and natural like they did. This coupled with the immediate transition into town locking certain players for their reactions to it (most of which I agreed with) felt very pro-Town.
I also liked them harping on Pooky for not understanding and them ultimately coming around to a Pooky townread based on his response.
I know ffery says I am overstating the mindmeld but the above is what sold me.
This is where I'm at with them.
I have experienced a game where scum!cabd crafted a series of crumbs for scum!marci to drop, for him to then spot, point at, call marci lock town for.
Which then garnered both cabd and marci town reads by both town!ffery and town!Notty.
If anyone could pull exactly what you are describing it would be cabd (he has done it before)
That is part of the reason why I think that a scum!morph puts scum!marci back on the table.
But all that being said, the overall reaction to my points leaves me feeling like falling back and letting them lead for the day is the right path.
In post 2511, Hermit Crab wrote:
I just want to lim scum, you see.
If mod bothered to put dethy in the hood, I assume he expect to see it played out, so we probably have until like Day 3 to lim scum in there anyway.
-Herr Mitt
My only concern with that is the scum boon of an unknown deadline.
Like, if it is a 4:1 split, I cannot imagine that dead line being too far out
but he made a readslist that just looks like hes scumreading alot of the lesser actives/"low hanging fruits" and townreading the people who have an actual impact on the game. it looks easy as fuck and scummy.
I think that a fair bit of my own concerns are stemming from the dynamic that ffery has established with me over the course of many games, but are specific to me in a way that is not particularly easy to sell other people on.
That big post seems like discrediting morphs thoughts without actually pushing them.
Was the dephy stuff really such a shining star?
I think scum have a VERY hard time making that "realization" seem genuine and natural like they did. This coupled with the immediate transition into town locking certain players for their reactions to it (most of which I agreed with) felt very pro-Town.
I also liked them harping on Pooky for not understanding and them ultimately coming around to a Pooky townread based on his response.
I know ffery says I am overstating the mindmeld but the above is what sold me.
This is where I'm at with them.
I have experienced a game where scum!cabd crafted a series of crumbs for scum!marci to drop, for him to then spot, point at, call marci lock town for.
Which then garnered both cabd and marci town reads by both town!ffery and town!Notty.
If anyone could pull exactly what you are describing it would be cabd (he has done it before)
That is part of the reason why I think that a scum!morph puts scum!marci back on the table.
But all that being said, the overall reaction to my points leaves me feeling like falling back and letting them lead for the day is the right path.
ngl i do lean pretty heavily on scum teammates on what i should do because i always know im not living past like day 2 at best.
but that being said, im not scum so this looks like a shit read.
That big post seems like discrediting morphs thoughts without actually pushing them.
Was the dephy stuff really such a shining star?
I think scum have a VERY hard time making that "realization" seem genuine and natural like they did. This coupled with the immediate transition into town locking certain players for their reactions to it (most of which I agreed with) felt very pro-Town.
I also liked them harping on Pooky for not understanding and them ultimately coming around to a Pooky townread based on his response.
I know ffery says I am overstating the mindmeld but the above is what sold me.
This is where I'm at with them.
I have experienced a game where scum!cabd crafted a series of crumbs for scum!marci to drop, for him to then spot, point at, call marci lock town for.
Which then garnered both cabd and marci town reads by both town!ffery and town!Notty.
If anyone could pull exactly what you are describing it would be cabd (he has done it before)
That is part of the reason why I think that a scum!morph puts scum!marci back on the table.
But all that being said, the overall reaction to my points leaves me feeling like falling back and letting them lead for the day is the right path.
ngl i do lean pretty heavily on scum teammates on what i should do because i always know im not living past like day 2 at best.
but that being said, im not scum so this looks like a shit read.
That is not a read.
I have concerns about morph unrelated to that.
And the post you quoted is explaining why Spiff's :
"I think scum have a VERY hard time making that "realization" seem genuine and natural like they did. This coupled with the immediate transition into town locking certain players for their reactions to it (most of which I agreed with) felt very pro-Town."
Did not swing my read. I think cabd could do that as scum, because I've seen him do that as scum.
