Open 92 - Vengeful Mafia (Game Over!) before 656

[Mirth]

And I think that you can't be that positive from his 4 whole posts.

[farside22]

And I think that you can't be that positive from his 4 whole posts.

I agree with the above post.
Mirth why do you think SSF is not paying attention? Do you really just write him off as possible scum?

[Surye]

I'll look for a replacement when I get home tonight if Caboose has not posted.

[forbiddanlight]

And I think that you can't be that positive from his 4 whole posts.

And I already explained that that's my playstyle.

[Mirth]

And I think that you can't be that positive from his 4 whole posts.

I agree with the above post.
Mirth why do you think SSF is not paying attention? Do you really just write him off as possible scum?

I'm not writing him off as anything, but I don't have very much to go on in regards to him. I think he's not really paying attention because he doesn't really provide comments of his own volition and his comments to my questions leave much to be desired. I'd like to hear more from him. He made a couple of decent points but it feels like he's not really trying to get involved in any of the conversations the three of us are having.

FL: all fine and dandy, but this is a 5 player game, we start off in LYLO, so excuse me if I think you need to amend your playstyle for this. Can't be sure of finding scum page 1, and I'd really like a lynch that isn't one part lack of enthusiasm and one part "I'm going to convince myself that this person is scum because I already voted for them."

[farside22]

And I think that you can't be that positive from his 4 whole posts.

I agree with the above post.
Mirth why do you think SSF is not paying attention? Do you really just write him off as possible scum?

I'm not writing him off as anything, but I don't have very much to go on in regards to him. I think he's not really paying attention because he doesn't really provide comments of his own volition and his comments to my questions leave much to be desired. I'd like to hear more from him. He made a couple of decent points but it feels like he's not really trying to get involved in any of the conversations the three of us are having.

FL: all fine and dandy, but this is a 5 player game, we start off in LYLO, so excuse me if I think you need to amend your playstyle for this. Can't be sure of finding scum page 1, and I'd really like a lynch that isn't one part lack of enthusiasm and one part "I'm going to convince myself that this person is scum because I already voted for them."

SSF's lack of comments have me leaning scum. Also the fact that Caboose hasn't said a word since the page one and there are still 2 votes leads me to scum on that wagon.

[forbiddanlight]

FL: all fine and dandy, but this is a 5 player game, we start off in LYLO, so excuse me if I think you need to amend your playstyle for this. Can't be sure of finding scum page 1, and I'd really like a lynch that isn't one part lack of enthusiasm and one part "I'm going to convince myself that this person is scum because I already voted for them."

And if I'm right it's a moot point anyway. Either way, I'll

Unvote

pending a replacement and

Vote:Mirth

based on my earlier concerns.

[farside22]

FL: all fine and dandy, but this is a 5 player game, we start off in LYLO, so excuse me if I think you need to amend your playstyle for this. Can't be sure of finding scum page 1, and I'd really like a lynch that isn't one part lack of enthusiasm and one part "I'm going to convince myself that this person is scum because I already voted for them."

And if I'm right it's a moot point anyway. Either way, I'll

Unvote

pending a replacement and

Vote:Mirth

based on my earlier concerns.

What concerns is that exactly?

[forbiddanlight]

FL: all fine and dandy, but this is a 5 player game, we start off in LYLO, so excuse me if I think you need to amend your playstyle for this. Can't be sure of finding scum page 1, and I'd really like a lynch that isn't one part lack of enthusiasm and one part "I'm going to convince myself that this person is scum because I already voted for them."

And if I'm right it's a moot point anyway. Either way, I'll

Unvote

pending a replacement and

Vote:Mirth

based on my earlier concerns.

What concerns is that exactly?

That she's throwing shit around and seeing what sticks. It's a scum tactic to push mislynches IMO.

[Caboose]

I'm here, sorry about that. My computer just went a little wonky.

Let me read up please.

[Caboose]

FL: all fine and dandy, but this is a 5 player game, we start off in LYLO, so excuse me if I think you need to amend your playstyle for this. Can't be sure of finding scum page 1, and I'd really like a lynch that isn't one part lack of enthusiasm and one part "I'm going to convince myself that this person is scum because I already voted for them."

And if I'm right it's a moot point anyway. Either way, I'll

Unvote

pending a replacement and

Vote:Mirth

based on my earlier concerns.

And you think that my getting replaced would make my replacement innocent?

Major FOS: forbiddenlight

For flipflopping.

No, I think Caboose is scum. Though you are certainly rising on my list given what I said earlier. Throw shit around and see what sticks.

If you think I'm scum, then why do you keep unvoting and revoting me?

[Caboose]

So why are you revoting Caboose exactly? Please explain your reasoning?

Because the only reason I unvoted was because L-1 seemed dangerous

. It doesn't anymore because the vig can be directed if Caboose is town, and if he's scum, nothing of value is lost.

Please tell me if any of the following is crap logic.

somestrangeflea seems townish to me and I'll tell you why. He saw me as scum and he's trying to get me lynched.

It looks to me like forbiddanlight is trying to dance around, get me lynched, and avoid a vig kill (from the bold). If forbiddanlight really thought I was scum, then why isn't she trying to get me lynched? Why is she afraid of me being at L-1?

Vote: forbiddanlight

I'm not afraid of roleclaiming. I'm a townie.

[Caboose]

EBWOP:

@somestangeflea: Do you think that my first two posts really warrant a lynch?

[forbiddanlight]

And you think that my getting replaced would make my replacement innocent?

Because we'd actually hear someone TALK maybe? We only have those four posts. Way to twist my fucking words.

It looks to me like forbiddanlight is trying to dance around, get me lynched, and avoid a vig kill (from the bold). If forbiddanlight really thought I was scum, then why isn't she trying to get me lynched? Why is she afraid of me being at L-1?

Because you are a fucking moron taking my words out of context. I thought L-1 was dangerous to the TOWN because of my misunderstandings of the rules. Yanno, this misrepresentation of me really has me flipflopping because I'm not sure who's scummier. You or Mirth. Now it's you though

Unvote, vote Caboose

I would not be unsurprised to see our scum pair between Mirth and Caboose. And if I get lynched, I'll be following through on that.

[Caboose]

Because you are a

fucking

moron

taking my words out of context. I thought L-1 was dangerous to the TOWN because of my misunderstandings of the rules. Yanno, this misrepresentation of me really has me flipflopping because I'm not sure who's scummier. You or Mirth. Now it's you though

Ouch.

I'll repeat to you my question to somestrangeflea. Do you think that my first two posts warrant a lynch?

[forbiddanlight]

I apologize. My language and insults were uncalled for. When I got home I was in a horrid mood and I projected it onto several games. I'm sorry about that. Everything except you being a moron stands though .

[Caboose]

I apologize. My language and insults were uncalled for. When I got home I was in a horrid mood and I projected it onto several games. I'm sorry about that. Everything except you being a moron stands though .

It's OK. I've learned from experience that mafia and a bad mood don't mix.

[Mirth]

Farside: maybe. I don't know. Inactivity really doesn't do it for me unless it's really really bad. Though I do ask SSF to either step it up with the playing or get replaced by someone who will.

FL: so I'm scum for trying to start conversation/get somewhere? Then I must be/must have been scum in every single game I've ever played. Also I'm loving your flirtation with the votecount on Caboose. All this jumping is rather sketchy.

Caboose: is there any possible protown reason for calling a barely playing player (or any player at all for that matter) protown when we're on page 4, in LYLO, and neither you nor he have done much in the way of scumhunting?

[forbiddanlight]

FL: so I'm scum for trying to start conversation/get somewhere? Then I must be/must have been scum in every single game I've ever played. Also I'm loving your flirtation with the votecount on Caboose. All this jumping is rather sketchy.

Ways and means. You aren't precisely provoking discussion so much as making a case for everyone and seeing what people follow. It's hard to explain better than that, though it goes beyond that, but I've seen it more often in scum than town.

[Mirth]

FL: so I'm scum for trying to start conversation/get somewhere? Then I must be/must have been scum in every single game I've ever played. Also I'm loving your flirtation with the votecount on Caboose. All this jumping is rather sketchy.

Ways and means. You aren't precisely provoking discussion so much as making a case for everyone and seeing what people follow. It's hard to explain better than that, though it goes beyond that, but I've seen it more often in scum than town.

Making a case for everyone and seeing what people follow? If that was the case, I could have just hammered Caboose already (assuming he and I aren't partners). Or stayed on you and pushed your lynch harder, because, honestly, you're not doing yourself any favors with your play. If I wanted an easy lynch, it's there, sitting on the platter, in the form of you, and could have been pulled off already. I doubt anyone would have faulted me for keeping you at L-1. Yet I'd really rather just hear from everyone here and get a discussion going where everyone is participating.

[forbiddanlight]

FL: so I'm scum for trying to start conversation/get somewhere? Then I must be/must have been scum in every single game I've ever played. Also I'm loving your flirtation with the votecount on Caboose. All this jumping is rather sketchy.

Ways and means. You aren't precisely provoking discussion so much as making a case for everyone and seeing what people follow. It's hard to explain better than that, though it goes beyond that, but I've seen it more often in scum than town.

Making a case for everyone and seeing what people follow? If that was the case, I could have just hammered Caboose already (assuming he and I aren't partners). Or stayed on you and pushed your lynch harder, because, honestly, you're not doing yourself any favors with your play. If I wanted an easy lynch, it's there, sitting on the platter, in the form of you, and could have been pulled off already. I doubt anyone would have faulted me for keeping you at L-1. Yet I'd really rather just hear from everyone here and get a discussion going where everyone is participating.

This is so fallacy ridden

First, I think you and Caboose are indeed scum buddies. That doesn't preclude you hammering for cred tomorrow. Second, hammering me is probably the stupidest thing you can do as scum. You can tell that either you or caboose will be my vengeful target. This set up doesn't have a great way for scum to push mislynches except surreptitiously. The throwing stuff around would in theory work well here since it indeed looks like you are promoting discussion when really you want to avoid suspicion so you aren't shot.

[Caboose]

Caboose: is there any possible protown reason for calling a barely playing player (or any player at all for that matter) protown when we're on page 4, in LYLO, and neither you nor he have done much in the way of scumhunting?

I used the word "townish." I'm not 100% sure.

Making a case for everyone and seeing what people follow? If that was the case, I could have just hammered Caboose already (assuming he and I aren't partners). Or stayed on you and pushed your lynch harder, because, honestly, you're not doing yourself any favors with your play. If I wanted an easy lynch, it's there, sitting on the platter, in the form of you, and could have been pulled off already. I doubt anyone would have faulted me for keeping you at L-1. Yet I'd really rather just hear from everyone here and get a discussion going where everyone is participating.

That just put you down on my scumdar. If I'm lynched (which is a distinct possibility) then I intend to use my vig kill on forbiddanlight.

[forbiddanlight]

That just put you down on my scumdar. If I'm lynched (which is a distinct possibility) then I intend to use my vig kill on forbiddanlight.

And have us lose the game? That'd be pretty epic fail. Course, you don't have a vig kill so it's no worries.

[forbiddanlight]

Oh, actually, this isn't a bad idea. Everyone, claim who you would kill right now with your vig kill. Should give us an interesting data set, ne? And is there any harm in it? At worst we have some WIFOM to ignore, at best we have some new things to analyze.

[forbiddanlight]

As for me, I think I'd vig Mirth since I see Caboose as more able to be lynched as scum.