TM 2023 | Super Mario Bros Mafia | Game Over!

[petapan]

sorry

i'm no good in these spots, i basically always lose. i think even if i vote correctly this is a loss but it still sucks. fakeclaim was well executed i guess

[SirCakez]

Votecount 5.1

wgeurts (2) - petapan, HighPrincessErinys

Not voting (1) - wgeurts

(expired on 2023-06-01 14:48:00) remain until day end

With 3 players alive, it takes 2 to reach a majority.

[SirCakez]

wgeurts has been eliminated day 5! They were

Toad, a Vanilla Townie

Welcome to Super Mario Bros Mafia Wgeurts!

You are Toad, a Vanilla Townie aligned with The Town

"Thank you Mario! But our princess is in another castle!"

Abilities

-During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
-During days 1-3, you may vote for another player to receive a power-up during the first 48 hours.

You win once all threats to the

Town

have been eliminated.
The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?t=90837

Petapan has been endgamed day 5! He was

Toad, a Vanilla Townie

Welcome to Super Mario Bros Mafia Petapan!

You are Toad, a Vanilla Townie aligned with The Town

"Thank you Mario! But our princess is in another castle!"

Abilities

-During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
-During days 1-3, you may vote for another player to receive a power-up during the first 48 hours.

You win once all threats to the

Town

have been eliminated.
The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?t=90837

[SirCakez]

The Mafia team of Cerberus v666 and HighPrincessErinys (Bowser, 1-shot Strongman/1-shot Ninja) has won the game by eliminating the entire Town!

[SirCakez]

Game Design and Mod Topic: viewtopic.php?t=90790
Mafia Chat: viewtopic.php?t=90838

As always, thanks for playing and there will be follow-up for Team Mafia purposes soon!

[HighPrincessErinys]

well.

[Radical Rat]

As much as I want to be salty, this is just as much my fault as anyone else's, and I can't pretend I wasn't fooled also (until it was too late to matter anyway), so instead...

Great work HPE. You earned the win.

And apologies to Fate and Jingle, neither of you should have died

[Radical Rat]

Though I guess HPE probably used its strongman anyway, so eh. Either way, it was a foolish gamble

[Thestatusquo]

HPE played such a nice endgame. Very well done.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

well done HPE!

[Adorable]

Well played HPE

On day 4 I had Peta and wgeurts as town and my poe were RR and HPE. The moment I saw RR flip town I was settled in on HPE being mafia on night 4. Day 4 ended fast for me and I didn't have time to give my legacy reads.

[Cerberus v666]

Well done HPE - I was a bit concerned about killing fate over RR with your strongman, and about not killing Peta to force town to either no lim or let you sculpt your endgame(since not killing peta at that moment meant scum was peta, or that scum was OKAY with the current "solve", which could have redirected the POE to include you again), but it all worked our!

Not sure when scum pt will be made available to everyone, so here's info.

D1:HPE and I had some trouble coming up with a fake claim for its slot. We ended up independently arriving at the idea of UB, which clearly ended up working well.

We did not know about the Toad flavor for vanilla town - vanilla was considered for the fake claim for HPE, so that..could have been really bad.

My interaction with wgeurts was decided on by me(you can ask my team mafia teammates!) before I even got my role PM. I wanted to treat wgeurts as a mason for fun, regardless of alignment.

N1: Ninja kill on CSF. Rolecop Adorable. Couldn't risk getting randomly caught by the tracker that obviously existed N1 when HPE and I were both the two most limmable slots/under lots of suspicion and likely to be tracked, followed by Fate and Adorable. No scum deep in the town block=take zero risks. Kill on CSF specifically because they were the least limmmable slot in the game. Neither HPE or I commented on the flavor chat in twilight of D1, so we actually missed out on that as making it probable that CSF had a PR. I recognized that killing CSF would implicate me and felt that risk was worth it, and had I been properly defending myself would have argued too that killing CSF was too dumb for scum!me to do if I wanted to live. Rolecop on Adorable was short-sighted - plan all along was to claim it as a straight up rolecop, naming the role pre-claim, and use my expressed suspicion of adorable+their interest in getting the double vote+my own mechanical focus as the reason why I'd target her specifically.

D2: Adorables pre-emptive claim messed with that plan for me, so instead of being "naive" town who, after getting the result, assumed that bodyguard=town definitely, and who would argue that with so much town power my rolecop as Mario was clearly designed as a mechanical red herring to give a mislim to scum, I downgraded it to just a vanilla cop which absolutely fucked with any reason why I'd target Adorable. Probably my biggest controllable mistake in my day play this game, should have stayed the course or claimed BP use - had we noticed the power role leaks, could have also planned for that as being the reason why I didn't use the BP.

I actually put together my ISO for Adorable and RR during the night phase, but as I was too busy to actually play properly kinda rolled them out over time. The Peta/HPE request from RR was what I wanted and was afraid of, because HPE's one request from me was not leaving any associativss to its slot, which I had done well up to that point. I ultimately decided that with the "mech" pseudo-guilty that didn't reflect reality at all(which was either a gambit by fate in reality, if you look at the mod pt, or fate just misremembering their actions) doing HPEs was high risk unless I did it alongside everyone else's, so the noise was too high for just HPEs ISO to stand out/to allow me to sculpt all the associatives at once, and I simply didn't have time to do all of that, or to even follow up on...like a bunch of things that I noticed and were good opportunities for conversations to be solvey and get townread.

Options for HPE, which we didn't discuss, were responding to my action and role claim with a vote as, say, the 2nd vote, or a delayed 1st vote if nobody was on me, or hard defending me. Since we didn't discuss, HPE did as it pleased. Once HPE didn't jump on the bus immediately, I told it to super hard defend me, and only let itself be swayed onto me at the last minute if necessary, with the assumption(correct, in the end) that between that and the "clear" it would be giving town, nobody would think it could possibly be my partner.

We also checked with cakez on whether or not a strongman kill on a slot Adorable was protecting would kill both slots, as per the language used in Adorables ability - the target was protected, and Adorable would die if the target was targeted by a killing effect - Not Adorable would die in place of the target. Cakez told us that a double kill was not possible, which I maintain means the role PM was not properly written, but it doesn't matter since the only opportunity for such a kill occurred when Adorable was protected by wgeurts' star, AND was targeting HPE.

N2: I recommended HPE "clear" wgeurts - major scumread of its slot, and "clearing" the biggest source of pressure on it's slot would cement the towniness. I also recommended a strongman kill on RR- we had a path to victory, but a save would ruin it. HPE chose to go with Fate because he's too unpredictable, essentially, and ended up using the strongman here out of paranoia.
N3:took a shot at wgeurts in case town didn't do what they said they would.
N4: shot Adorable as it was the only way to avoid the chance of incorrectly guessing who she targeted. Planned to call frame job on scum if anyone suspected it for that reason.

General comments and thoughts: I am unsure why nobody thought "magic" powers would be considered supernatural, and realize that Luigi was likely there to catch my slot.

I think I have more but I am typing this on my phone because I have a chance to respond right now.

[DkKoba]

As much as I want to be salty, this is just as much my fault as anyone else's, and I can't pretend I wasn't fooled also (until it was too late to matter anyway), so instead...

Great work HPE. You earned the win.

And apologies to Fate and Jingle, neither of you should have died

Next time use the mechanically optimal route of doc saving eh?

[Fate]

AND WHAT

[Fate]

oh yeah this one's easy already page 2
VOTE: HighPrincess

YOU FUCKING CLOWNS

[Fate]

NOW IF WE HADNT ISED TWO LIMS ON OBVTOWN JINGLE AND RAT

COULDVE HAD A NICE MISLIM ON PETA AND FIGURED OUT THE GODDAMN GAME

[Cerberus v666]

ILY Fate.

[Fate]

GRAAAAAA MY EPIC RETURN

IF IT WASNT FOR YOU MEDDLING GODDAMN THIRD PERSON SPEAKING

PARANOID STRONGARMING FUCKS

[Shirou]

IT'S INDEED A SHAME FATE

EVEN MORE A SHAME THE FACT I DIDN'T GET TO BE IN A PLAYERLIST WITH YOU AND SCREAM TOGETHER OR AT EACH OTHER

[Cerberus v666]

The worse part is we referred your epic return, Fate, and didn't even win TM. :p

[Alisae]

I wish I got to play w/ Fate

[kuribo]

GRAAAAAA MY EPIC RETURN

IF IT WASNT FOR YOU MEDDLING GODDAMN THIRD PERSON SPEAKING

PARANOID STRONGARMING FUCKS

god I fucking missed this

reading this game as an observer was fun

[Thestatusquo]

Fate did win a coveted shea award tho.

[Cerberus v666]

The worse part is we referred your epic return, Fate, and didn't even win TM. :p

*ruined*

Damn mobile

Fate did win a coveted shea award tho.

True. And that's what really matters!

[Radical Rat]

As much as I want to be salty, this is just as much my fault as anyone else's, and I can't pretend I wasn't fooled also (until it was too late to matter anyway), so instead...

Great work HPE. You earned the win.

And apologies to Fate and Jingle, neither of you should have died

Next time use the mechanically optimal route of doc saving eh?

I definitely misplayed there, though in this case it was a strongman kill anyway, so nothing would have changed.

I should have followed my paranoia onto HPE instead of Jingle, but slightly odd but potentially useful fakeclaims continue to be a weakness of mine.