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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:10 am

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Point of Order!

"I am NOT a number!"


The Twelfth Vote Count (aka the "Lose It. It Means, Go Crazy... Nuts..." Vote Count):


Vote Count:

Korts (3) - iamausername
Battousai (1)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache, Macavenger
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (1) - MafiaSSK
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (5): Battousai , Jenter Brolincani, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???


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Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:13 am

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Okay, I'll need to sober up before I post sensibel. But it seems activity's slowed down...

Oh yeah, thanks Tar.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:15 am

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Hey, it also seems the FoS count went crazy suddenly. Or I had one too many shots.

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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:43 pm

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Interesting. Yos2 has an FoS on him, with no name on it. That suggests that someone (presumably scum) have an ability to secretly FoS a player, and that it does have some kind of effect on the game. Either that, or Tar messed up the count again, but I kind of doubt it this time.

iamausername - why would you rather be voting SSK than Jex currently? They've both been somewhat lurkish.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:04 pm

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Macavenger wrote:iamausername - why would you rather be voting SSK than Jex currently? They've both been somewhat lurkish.
For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:17 pm

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I agree with iamausename on that count. That looks about as odd as the number 3. However, I am not entirely certain that he realized that that is what he was saying, as in a game where the mod is lynchable, then we would be getting something out of the lynch, though I do admit that it would be something useful to the town in all likelihood.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:06 pm

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Point of Order!

"Smith will suffice."


The Thirteenth Vote Count (aka the "... Insane... Bonzo... No Longer In Possession of One's Faculties..." Vote Count):


Vote Count:

Korts (3) - iamausername
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache, Macavenger
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (1) - MafiaSSK
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (5): Battousai , Jenter Brolincani, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:


Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:27 pm

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I'm not entirely sure, but I think that this votecount is actually correct across the board....
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:07 pm

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Ok, 'i am not a number comes' from The Prisoner which as far as i know stops the trait of the rest of them being Sci-Fi, maybe something has changed?
As far as i can see 'Smith will suffice' seems to also be a movie which does help with the idea that the theme of things has changed.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:02 am

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I'm pretty sure the theme isn't entirely sci fi as my role branches from other genres.

Remussaidow- why did you defend MafiaSSK in post 130? I would like to see Mafia defend that quote iamausername brought up.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:27 am

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iamausername wrote:
Macavenger wrote:iamausername - why would you rather be voting SSK than Jex currently? They've both been somewhat lurkish.
For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.
True, it is usually a terrible strategy. However, this is a differet type of Mafia. We should try out different strategies than normal.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:43 am

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MafiaSSK wrote:True, it is usually a terrible strategy. However, this is a differet type of Mafia. We should try out different strategies than normal.
Wrong, it's still mafia.

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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:05 am

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Agreed (with Mac)

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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:36 am

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Battousai wrote:Agreed (with Mac)

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I'd say opportunism, but I guess it was just the second vote and nothing to be too anxious about.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:45 am

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Why is it opportunism if I agree with someone on someone else's scumminess? Why can't we share the same opinion on it, do I have to find something else to vote mafiaSSK on?
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:13 am

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Point of Order!

"Help, help! I'm trapped in the game!"


The Fourteenth Vote Count (aka the "...Three Fries Short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

Korts (2) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (3)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (1) - MafiaSSK
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (4): Jenter Brolincani, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:


Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:31 am

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I said that I understood the point that he may have been trying to make. I'm not terribly sure that that counts as defending him.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:33 am

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Battousai wrote:Why is it opportunism if I agree with someone on someone else's scumminess? Why can't we share the same opinion on it, do I have to find something else to vote mafiaSSK on?
True, yes, for starters. But would you think SSK lynchworthy for this single point? This point is purely mafia theory, specialized. And there are infinite points of view in theory.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:32 pm

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Odd, I must've somehow looked at the wrong count when I thought MafiaSSK's FoS didn't count earlier. Oh well, disregard that, then.

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Couldn't find this on the interwebs. I thought it might've been from
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Korts wrote:"Pretty much know" means about 80-90% sure. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think it's more than safe to assume.
Well, I disagree, because I don't think it's a good idea to lynch based on what you can assume about other people's role pm's, but I won't stop you from placing higher value in it.
With this setup, I'm not 100% confident in anything. YES I base this idea on something, NO I don't feel like telling you what it is I base it on.
Fair enough. Could you answer this though; do you have an in-game reason, or is it strictly meta? I don't expect you to provide the specific reason if it's in-game.
Because in BM's case, I just chose a scummer at random out of those not involved in this game.
Ok.

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MafiaSSK wrote:Yes [we should try lynching the mod]. Since town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day.
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iamausername wrote:For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.
But he didn't actually suggest a no lynch, he suggested lynching the mod. Which, according to Korts (if I understand him correctly) is more like a random lynch. Which is even worse.

MafiaSSK, despite Korts confirmation that he's got a reason for saying that lynching the mod will lead to someone else dying instead of him, you have neither retracted your position on this nor unvoted Tarhalindur. Care to clarify your stand? For that matter, do you think Korts is right/wrong?
remusshadow wrote: as in a game where the mod is lynchable, then we would be getting something out of the lynch, though I do admit that it would be something useful to the town in all likelihood.
I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, are you saying that you think lynching the mod would be useful to the town?
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:44 pm

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Cavebear with a toothache wrote:
iamausername wrote:For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.
But he didn't actually suggest a no lynch, he suggested lynching the mod. Which, according to Korts (if I understand him correctly) is more like a random lynch. Which is even worse.
I didn't mean to suggest that SSK was actually advocating a no lynch (I'm sure lynching the mod will have more effect than that), merely that his reasoning for voting Tar was just as faulty as that same reasoning would be if applied to a vote of no lynch.

P.S., Tar, I believe my name should be in front of Korts and SSK should have a (3) next to his.

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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:03 pm

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I mean lynching the mod will be more useful to the town than not lynching.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:59 pm

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Cavebear with a toothache wrote:
iamausername wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:Yes [we should try lynching the mod]. Since town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day.
Do not like this.
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iamausername wrote:For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.
But he didn't actually suggest a no lynch, he suggested lynching the mod. Which, according to Korts (if I understand him correctly) is more like a random lynch. Which is even worse.

MafiaSSK, despite Korts confirmation that he's got a reason for saying that lynching the mod will lead to someone else dying instead of him, you have neither retracted your position on this nor unvoted Tarhalindur. Care to clarify your stand? For that matter, do you think Korts is right/wrong?
I didn't realize there was a confirmation. So since he confirmed it, I'll believe him and
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:32 pm

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Cavebear with a toothache wrote:
Korts wrote:"Pretty much know" means about 80-90% sure. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think it's more than safe to assume.
Well, I disagree, because I don't think it's a good idea to lynch based on what you can assume about other people's role pm's, but I won't stop you from placing higher value in it.
I may be wrong, and I'm certainly not going to lynch over this single point, but the PM was pretty indicative of this format.
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With this setup, I'm not 100% confident in anything. YES I base this idea on something, NO I don't feel like telling you what it is I base it on.
Fair enough. Could you answer this though; do you have an in-game reason, or is it strictly meta? I don't expect you to provide the specific reason if it's in-game.
In-game, definitely. I'm not sure how you imagine meta reasoning for the mod's lynch causing someone else's death.
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MafiaSSK wrote:Yes [we should try lynching the mod]. Since town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day.
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iamausername wrote:For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.
But he didn't actually suggest a no lynch, he suggested lynching the mod. Which, according to Korts (if I understand him correctly) is more like a random lynch. Which is even worse.
Nonono. Not random. A specific player, if I'm right.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:40 pm

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Korts wrote:
Cavebear with a toothache wrote:
Korts wrote:"Pretty much know" means about 80-90% sure. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think it's more than safe to assume.
Well, I disagree, because I don't think it's a good idea to lynch based on what you can assume about other people's role pm's, but I won't stop you from placing higher value in it.
I may be wrong, and I'm certainly not going to lynch over this single point, but the PM was pretty indicative of this format.


Korts wrote:
iamausername wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:Yes [we should try lynching the mod]. Since town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day.
Do not like this.
FoS: MafiaSSK
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iamausername wrote:For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.
But he didn't actually suggest a no lynch, he suggested lynching the mod. Which, according to Korts (if I understand him correctly) is more like a random lynch. Which is even worse.
Nonono. Not random. A specific player, if I'm right.
Can you tell us which player?
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:02 pm

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I'm not sure if I want to just go and lynch the mod right away. From a player standpoint, it is most commonly the same as a no lynch. Then again, it could provide very good or very bad consequences.

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