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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:23 pm

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And you want to vote me why?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:35 pm

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Role/rule fishing stuff. I FoS'd both you and Battousai for that quite a ways back, and you continuing it is a good place to start looking for scum, IMO.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:38 pm

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Fair enough. But I still think it's better for town to know a rule.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:42 pm

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its off the players list, not off the vote count lists.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:51 pm

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Yeah. Looks like there was an error in the sixth vote count, it was edited after I posted that. It all lines up correctly now.

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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:55 pm

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I think that Korts way of saying that is somewhat suspect, but not enough to warrant a vote from me for that.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:05 pm

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Cavebear with a toothache wrote:Cylons are bad guys.
They're just misunderstood. :(
MafiaSSK wrote:Yes [we should try lynching the mod]. Since town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day.
Do not like this.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:36 pm

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Point of Order!

"Close the world. Enter the next."


Confirming that the Sixth Vote Count was edited for containing an error (it's a Tarhalindur game, vote count errors really shouldn't be a surprise). - Tar


The Ninth Vote Count (aka the "I Love It When a Plan Comes Together" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

Korts (4)
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0) -
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache, Macavenger
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (2) - Battousai, MafiaSSK
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (4): , Jenter Brolincani, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:


Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (1)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:
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Next Mod Deadline Review:
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End Point of Order!
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:38 pm

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Not gonna lie...I completely forgot this game was starting :oops:

I'm really glad that we figured out the voting order for today. I believe that it will have to change each day at least enough to take out those that die. I also wonder exactly what the FOS:es do. I don't usually use FOS on people so I wonder if I should start.

I honestly don't find anyone scummy at this point in the game. I don't think enough has happened to warrant much.

However, Korts keeps pushing Battousai to claim his rule but I thought he already did.
Battousai wrote:Since my role told me I could that the mod is a player, I want to see what happens when I

Vote:Tar
So now I don't understand what the push is for him to claim since he already has. Just my two cents.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:55 pm

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Battousai had the vote to Tar and it stayed to Tar. Where as with my vote it went over to Nocmen. So I do think differnet players voting for different people affect it.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:24 pm

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Hey, what if we lynched Battle Mage? I wonder.

@Jex, I'm not really sure if that's the rule. If it is, Battousai will confirm it. I also don't like how you're trying to sound uninportant and stay under the radar by adding the last sentence ("Just my two cents").
Nocmen wrote:I think that Korts way of saying that is somewhat suspect, but not enough to warrant a vote from me for that.
That's one twisted sentence. I had to read it three times to understand...
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:33 am

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I forgot to say this but my role says (on top of the rest of it) with a ___ complex (not putting what incase it gives scum an advantage)
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:09 am

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Ya, the rule was that the mod is a player. It was on the piece of paper the cat gave me.

Mac: What Korts did isn't scummy enough to place a vote, IMO. His question and answers to it, wouldn't help him fakeclaim later. Just as mine wouldn't either, because it seemed I was the only one who got this and if all the townies did and I was scum, how would I know about it?
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:09 am

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EBWOP:
Unvote
, wanted to see if a vote would go straight to Tar or not.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:26 am

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Battousai wrote:Mac: What Korts did isn't scummy enough to place a vote, IMO. His question and answers to it, wouldn't help him fakeclaim later. Just as mine wouldn't either, because it seemed I was the only one who got this and if all the townies did and I was scum, how would I know about it?
Disagree. Despite being 5 pages into the thread, we have for all intents and purposes barely left the random voting stage, since most of that was working out the voting mechanics. That's plenty to place a vote this early. I don't have a ton invested in it, but I haven't really seen anything else worth voting for.
Musher333 wrote:I forgot to say this but my role says (on top of the rest of it) with a ___ complex (not putting what incase it gives scum an advantage)
WTF? English please?
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:18 am

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Point of Order!

"It's best not to think about it too much, really. Just roll the ball already."


The Tenth Vote Count (aka the "Wait, Isn't That an Obvious A-Team Remix?" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

Korts (4)
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0) -
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache, Macavenger
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (1) - MafiaSSK
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (5): Battousai , Jenter Brolincani, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:


Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (1)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:
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End Point of Order!
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:41 pm

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This time, on Mod Watch™:
"Commencing nullification of data-link. Repairs ordered to relay zero zero zero zero."
First half of this seems to be a quote from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (just watched that recently, btw. It's pretty messed up. I like it. ^^). The second half doesn't match TMoHS though; but it almost matches another Battlestar quote.
"Close the world. Enter the next."
This is from Serial Experiments Lain. Definitely a "screwed up animes" theme going here.
"It's best not to think about it too much, really. Just roll the ball already."

This might be connected to Katamari Damacy; I found a similar quote on tvtropes.org referencing Katamari Damacy, but I don't know if it's in the game. The quote makes me think of roulette.

Also, the quote in votecount number five (
"So long as one soul exists, it will be eternal proof that Mankind once existed"
) might be from Neon Genesis Evangelion as well. I suspect it might depend on how you translate it (the quote I saw was about people rather than souls).

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It's slightly worrying (or at least weird) that Korts could vote Battle Mage and Battousai could vote Tarhalindur but MafiaSSK can't vote Tar. MafiaSSK, can you vote Battle Mage?
Battousai wrote:I don't think I'm allowed to tell you the rule, as it's a special ability my role has, I think.
Why'd you say that and then tell us anyway?

Regarding Korts: there are some oddities in Korts' posts thus far. First of all, he's got a rule infraction. Then there's the thing with the parentheses; asking if people have them, FoS:ing MafiaSSK for not having them, and having role information that everyone have them?
Korts wrote:I pretty much know from role information that everyone has these parentheses. Thus the FoS on MafiaSSK, too.
What's "pretty much know"? Do you know this or do you assume it? How sure are you?
Korts wrote:I am pretty confident if the mod gets the majority votes, someone else will die for him.
Same question here; do you know this? Do you base it on anything?
Korts wrote:Hey, what if we lynched Battle Mage? I wonder.
You were pretty confident about what would happen if we lynched the mod, why not now?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:06 pm

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Nice pick up on the anime things, and it makes a lot more sense with everything to me now. And those oddities in Korts' post are...well...odd.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:39 pm

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Cavebear with a toothache wrote:


It's slightly worrying (or at least weird) that Korts could vote Battle Mage and Battousai could vote Tarhalindur but MafiaSSK can't vote Tar. MafiaSSK, can you vote Battle Mage?
In the last votecount,Tar put me as voting him. So I want to wait one more votecount to see if my vote goes elsewhere.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:50 pm

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I want to try something completely out of the blue on this, and before I do, I think I'd like some more opinion on this.

If the game works like normal mafia games, then more or less anything we say in bold is addressed to the mod, right?

could we, in theory (or actuallity, I s'pose), ask him, in bold font, if we got the voting system correct?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:51 pm

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ebwop
and does anyone think he'll respond with anything more than a rules infraction on me for mentioning this?
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:31 pm

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Point of Order!
Tarhalindur wrote:
Tarhalindur Mostly Mountainous - Frequently Asked Questions


1) What the fuck is going on here?


That's a very good question, isn't it?

2) What do you mean, you can't tell me any of the other rules?


Exactly what I said. What are you, illiterate?

3) So should I assume that there aren't any rules at all?


Not necessarily. I recommend you look up a little piece of philosophy called Pascal's Wager. It might be somewhat relevant to this situation.

4) But you're not God!


And how do you know that, again?

5) Will you at least tell us how many votes it is to lynch?


Did I not say that I cannot tell you any of the other rules?

6) When is our deadline?


Once again, I would like to remind you that I cannot tell you any of the other rules. Don't worry, only a bastard Mod would let a deadline sneak up on you without any warning...

... hmm, maybe you should lynch really, really quickly.

7) I saw your ruleset in Tarhalindur Mostly Mountainous. Can I assume that your rules here are similar?


You might think that. I couldn't
possibly
comment.

8) What the heck is this "Rules Infraction" I see added onto my post?


It might be an indicator that you screwed up and broke the rules somehow. It might be the result of a game mechanic.

Or, it might be that your Mod is a bastard Mod and is just placing "Rules Infraction" at the end of random posts.

You decide!

9) Why are you not allowed to tell us any of the other rules?


I am not at liberty to reply to that question, either.

10) Why are you saying that these are the Frequently Asked Questions for Tarhalindur Mostly Mountainous when this is Mind Screw Mafia?


... *sigh*

Figure it out yourself.
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The Eleventh Vote Count (aka the "Did You Say Anything That Would Require Security Clearance?" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

Korts (4)
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0) -
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache, Macavenger
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (1) - MafiaSSK
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (5): Battousai , Jenter Brolincani, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:


Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (1)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:
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End Point of Order!
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:40 pm

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Cavebear with a toothache wrote:Regarding Korts: there are some oddities in Korts' posts thus far. First of all, he's got a rule infraction. Then there's the thing with the parentheses; asking if people have them, FoS:ing MafiaSSK for not having them, and having role information that everyone have them?
Korts wrote:I pretty much know from role information that everyone has these parentheses. Thus the FoS on MafiaSSK, too.
What's "pretty much know"? Do you know this or do you assume it? How sure are you?
"Pretty much know" means about 80-90% sure. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think it's more than safe to assume.
Cavebear with a toothache wrote:
Korts wrote:I am pretty confident if the mod gets the majority votes, someone else will die for him.
Same question here; do you know this? Do you base it on anything?
With this setup, I'm not 100% confident in anything. YES I base this idea on something, NO I don't feel like telling you what it is I base it on.
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Korts wrote:Hey, what if we lynched Battle Mage? I wonder.
You were pretty confident about what would happen if we lynched the mod, why not now?
Because in BM's case, I just chose a scummer at random out of those not involved in this game.

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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:41 pm

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mod, would you fix my quote tags?


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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:09 am

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Actually,
Unvote, Vote: Korts
. Because we don't have any way of knowing where the votes really count, and I'd much rather be voting MafiaSSK than Jex at the moment.
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