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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:09 pm

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town should never vote for himself or herself, ask to be replaced.
im also callin her bluff at the sametime seeing if she really wants to be in this game, thanks for ruining my plan guys.

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:10 pm

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town should never vote for himself or herself, ask to be replaced.
Doesn't mean they don't.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:14 pm

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pity is for the weak.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:23 pm

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killa seven wrote:pity is for the weak.
Not mislynching is for the winners.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:31 pm

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killa seven wrote:pity is for the weak.
Gee, that doesn't sound scummy at all :roll:

You're pretty brutal killa.

I'm with Spyrex on this one,
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I'm not keen on changing my random vote until more scumminess is demonstrated unequivocally...
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:34 pm

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Not mislynching is for the winners.
I can agree with killa's basic idea- it kinda looks like forbid gave up and self-voted cause she was feeling attacked. But voting someone you think is a townie to see if she "really wants to play this game" is a stupid plan.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:30 am

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K7, unvote now, forbid basically soft-claimed, get off her case already. -___-
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:47 am

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Nah, Im not having that Killa.....

The fact that FL is applying pressure from herself early doors strikes me as a misguided townie, but only just.

While Im here...

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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:36 am

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Gimbo wrote:K7, unvote now, forbid basically soft-claimed, get off her case already. -___-
I lol'ed. Soft claim in a Mountainous game.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:48 am

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I soft claimed? Actually, no, I wasn't implying I had a role at all. Since it was clearly a colossal failure I'll explain my reasoning. I wanted to test a tactic. Vote myself under the pretense of giving up, and see if any scum took the bait of. It backfired, causing people to think I was more town but frustrated, stupid, misguided, or all of the above. However, my little experiment did reveal a few interesting facts about killa seven. I think an
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:48 am

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Oh yeah,
Unvote forbiddanlight
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:47 am

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I apologize for not posting - my phone and internet went out for some inexplicable reason and it took a few days before a repairmen came to fix it.

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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:55 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:I soft claimed? Actually, no, I wasn't implying I had a role at all. Since it was clearly a colossal failure I'll explain my reasoning. I wanted to test a tactic. Vote myself under the pretense of giving up, and see if any scum took the bait of. It backfired, causing people to think I was more town but frustrated, stupid, misguided, or all of the above. However, my little experiment did reveal a few interesting facts about killa seven. I think an
FoS Killa Seven
is a good idea here. He definitely gave a more scummy read than the rest of you in response to what I did. I apologize for not continuing the tatic longer, but it didn't seem to be getting anywhere.
I agree that killa's actions could be considered scummy, but thats only on the pretense that you are indeed town...

The alternative to this, and its something thats 50:50 regardless of your ploy, is that you are scum trying to attract an over-aggressive townie.

I dont see enough here to warrant a Fos to either you or Killa here....
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:56 am

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I don't like Killa's reaction. I have a hard time believing it's a good idea for intentionally voting for someone you think is town.

To that end,
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:04 am

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Firestarter wrote:
The alternative to this, and its something thats 50:50 regardless of your ploy, is that you are scum trying to attract an over-aggressive townie.
I didn't think of this. It would attract a ton of attention along with it, but it would in theory validate a scum as town for being attacked. They just need to separate themselves from the mislynch. To be fair, I am sceptical about this. It seems a tad on the suicidal side if it doesn't work. Moreover, they're probably not going to live down that they tried it.

Still it seems both forbiddanlight and Killa were gambling for something.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:33 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:I soft claimed? Actually, no, I wasn't implying I had a role at all. Since it was clearly a colossal failure I'll explain my reasoning. I wanted to test a tactic. Vote myself under the pretense of giving up, and see if any scum took the bait of. It backfired, causing people to think I was more town but frustrated, stupid, misguided, or all of the above. However, my little experiment did reveal a few interesting facts about killa seven. I think an
FoS Killa Seven
is a good idea here. He definitely gave a more scummy read than the rest of you in response to what I did. I apologize for not continuing the tatic longer, but it didn't seem to be getting anywhere.
This actually makes me feel pretty sketchy about you.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:21 am

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Firestarter who does deserve a FoS from you? Recapping what's gone on, I noticed you have only 4 posts, one being a joke vote. I don't agree with your theory on reads in the random phase, but that post really didn't have much significance either. That was some major action for day one going on between K7 and FL, and you don't have a vote OR a FoS?
FoS Firestarter


One thing in your favor is the critical thinking that lead to your idea of FL/K7 setup, but I personally don't buy it. Too much of a reach for scum. K7 I think your "plan to test Forbidden" claim is weak. That was a pretty lame excuse for putting a vote on someone when they obviously didn't mind pulling other votes in.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:32 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:I soft claimed? Actually, no, I wasn't implying I had a role at all. Since it was clearly a colossal failure I'll explain my reasoning. I wanted to test a tactic. Vote myself under the pretense of giving up, and see if any scum took the bait of. It backfired, causing people to think I was more town but frustrated, stupid, misguided, or all of the above. However, my little experiment did reveal a few interesting facts about killa seven. I think an
FoS Killa Seven
is a good idea here. He definitely gave a more scummy read than the rest of you in response to what I did. I apologize for not continuing the tatic longer, but it didn't seem to be getting anywhere.
This actually makes me feel pretty sketchy about you.
I'm with Armlx on this one, and to quote the old addage - LAL.

Pulling something like this as a supposed "town" aligned player is bad juju...you don't lie, that is part of what defines us. Firestarter really nailed it on the head:
Firestarter wrote:I agree that killa's actions could be considered scummy, but thats only on the pretense that you are indeed town...

The alternative to this, and its something thats 50:50 regardless of your ploy, is that you are scum trying to attract an over-aggressive townie.


I dont see enough here to warrant a Fos to either you or Killa here....
However, I think both of you deserve the FoS - to me, this almost reeks of scum playing mind games just like Fire said, to attract an over-agressive townie, but when your plan backfired, Killa (one of your partners in crime?) came along and helped put some pressure on to allow you to back out of your self-vote. What does everyone else think?
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:45 am

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I'm with Armlx on this one, and to quote the old addage - LAL.
Meh, this isn't really a LAL scenario unless you think he is lying about his self vote being a trap. Which I sorta do.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:50 am

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Well, I personally think that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard today. Have the words Occam's Razor ever been spoken to you? While I was self voting with most people not thinking I was executing some stupid plan, they all were pretty sure I was town, but misguided. If I were scum, that'd be perfect, throw a few woe is me posts here and there, and see how the day goes. However, by revealing the plan, I of course cast doubt on myself, but I chose to do so since it made more sense to do so when it became clear that none of the scum seemed stupid enough to jump into it except with the possible exception of Killa Seven, who I think I will actually be voting.
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Seriously, there are easier ways to attract over agressive townies that don't involve as much chance of my death. I gambled, and have yet to see if I won. And we don't lie? If a lie catches scum, I think it's warranted. The whole game is about lying and subterfuge. As town, you lie less, but you still lie regardless. I mean, are you telling me that when directly asked, no one has ever lied about a town aligned role? (as an example, of course). Town does NOT equal saint. It equals someone who is determined to catch scum through any means possible.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:54 am

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armlx wrote:
I'm with Armlx on this one, and to quote the old addage - LAL.
Meh, this isn't really a LAL scenario unless you think he is lying about his self vote being a trap. Which I sorta do.
That's exactly what I'm saying, and exactly what he said - he said he was only voting for himself in order to "get the scum to come out" - it's poor play to lie unless you're mafia - when you're town the best weapon you have is the truth, so the biggest question on my mind is why pull a stunt like this as town, it serves no benefit. Pulling it as mafia seems to make a lot more sense, as it can pretty much be a win-win - you either get the suspicion thrown off yourself early with the move (as mafia, this would keep you safer from an early lynch) OR you get the suspicion thrown on someone else who comes after you. Either way, it just seems like a bad idea to be lying like that.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:56 am

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forbiddanlight wrote: If I were scum, that'd be perfect, throw a few woe is me posts here and there, and see how the day goes.
manito wrote: you either get the suspicion thrown off yourself early with the move (as mafia, this would keep you safer from an early lynch) OR you get the suspicion thrown on someone else who comes after you.
I was sarnath'ed.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:03 am

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sarnath'ed?
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:10 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:sarnath'ed?
Its a term for when you are about to post something and someone posts it right before you.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:19 am

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Ah, ok, so basically ninja'd in most other forums. Thanks for the clarification.
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