Open 65 - Mini Love (Over!) before 578

[Jex]

@Jex:

I voted for Q-man because I did not see his comment as a joke when I'm trying to promote discussion. I felt his vote against me was a reach at nothing and voted for him because his comment made no sense. How do you know if he was joking? I was trying to promote discussion instead of the random BW comments going on and he just off shoots at the hip for a first comment and vote I found it odd coming from him.

I can't prove that Q-man's comment was a joke, however, everyone was joking around about BWs and yet you singled out Qman. The more I look at the conversation the more I think that you (farside) were the one to overreact. What do you mean by you found it odd coming from him? It was his first post into the game, so I don't understand how it could be odd from him in particular.

[ThAdmiral]

Vote Count:

Farside - 2

(Qman, Jex)

ABR - 2

(Flameaxe, Sethaniel)

Sethaniel -2

(ABR, Elderad)

Qman - 1

(Babygirl)

Flameaxe - 1

(Farside)

Babygirl - 1

(Dahill)

Korts - 1

(Korts)

Not Voting -

(Yoshi, Silence)

With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch

Finding a replacement for Korts. Prodding Yoshi and Silence.

[Yoshi]

Hi guys! I forgot about the game, then got an e-mail, sorry!

I read up until this point, and I find Jex, Korts/replacement, and Sethaniel most suspicious.

Jex self-voted, OMGUS'd, and hopped her vote around when many votes were on her, trying to be suspicious of many people.

Korts basically just didn't contribute anything, self-voted, then left.

Sethaniel is for his recent abdication of responsibility by asking ABR what to do.

I think Jex is the most suspicious of these offenses.

vote: Jex

[farside22]

@Jex:

I voted for Q-man because I did not see his comment as a joke when I'm trying to promote discussion. I felt his vote against me was a reach at nothing and voted for him because his comment made no sense. How do you know if he was joking? I was trying to promote discussion instead of the random BW comments going on and he just off shoots at the hip for a first comment and vote I found it odd coming from him.

I can't prove that Q-man's comment was a joke, however, everyone was joking around about BWs and yet you singled out Qman. The more I look at the conversation the more I think that you (farside) were the one to overreact. What do you mean by you found it odd coming from him? It was his first post into the game, so I don't understand how it could be odd from him in particular.

I've never seen Q-man making many jokes as such that is why I found it odd. I'm used to it with Albert.
Now on to some more interesting comments. I read Sethaniel comments and I felt he was fishing for information. It was his question about what Albert liked about Jex that through me.

unvote: vote: Sethaniel

[Jex]

Jex self-voted, OMGUS'd, and hopped her vote around when many votes were on her, trying to be suspicious of many people.

vote: Jex

All of my votes up until my vote on Sethaniel were all joking around, you know...random game play for the random voting stage. Sethaniel was the first that I actually found suspicious and I'm currently torn between sethaniel and farside at the moment for most suspicious in my eyes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You have beautiful eyes, Jex.

[silence]

Prod received. Didn't find anything worth drawing conclusions, I'll try to read more carefully later today.

Anyway I still wonder why there is no strategic discussion

[Jex]

You have beautiful eyes, Jex.

Aww schucks I think someone is trying to suck up to me.

[farside22]

@Jex: I take it you don't find Qman play off. Sometimes he is more vocal which I've learned doesn't mean squat, but I don't often see him being silly. Usually he is a very serious player.

[Yoshi]

Silence, I think the strategy here is just ordinary; try hard to figure out who the scum are, try to make sure the scum doesn't discover lovers or the doctor... lynch the scum.

Jex, regardless of your claimed intent or randomness at the time, I find your actions suspect.

I'd like to hear from Sethaniel in defense of his actions.

[dahill1]

i'm gonna

unvote vote sethaniel

for basically asking ABR what to do

ABR, do you have a reason for liking Jex? If you can give me a good one, I'll vote for her.

Ah, wait. So you like her personally, not like her as a candidate for lynch.

Or, you believe people who think like you do should be lynched.

Which is it, ABR? do you want me to vote for Jex?

and then saying he was only doing it for conversation to see his response..
he clearly said "if you give me a good reason to vote for jex i'll vote for her" and "do you want me to vote for jex?"
that doesn't seem like conversation to me

[Qman]

@Jex: I take it you don't find Qman play off. Sometimes he is more vocal which I've learned doesn't mean squat, but I don't often see him being silly. Usually he is a very serious player.

That is in fact true. But the first 3-4 pages if I get involved with random votes, I get a little silly.

Inomrally just sit out the random vote stage, watching and waiting for the game to turn serious. My post was out of character with what farside has seem from me recently, so I can understand why it looked odd to her.

[Qman]

i'm gonna

unvote vote sethaniel

for basically asking ABR what to do

ABR, do you have a reason for liking Jex? If you can give me a good one, I'll vote for her.

Ah, wait. So you like her personally, not like her as a candidate for lynch.

Or, you believe people who think like you do should be lynched.

Which is it, ABR? do you want me to vote for Jex?

and then saying he was only doing it for conversation to see his response..
he clearly said "if you give me a good reason to vote for jex i'll vote for her" and "do you want me to vote for jex?"
that doesn't seem like conversation to me

I think it's odd, but I also think they are just screwing around as that came page 3 or before, most of which interaction i write off until a couple days in.

The random vote stage is ass.

unvote

too

[silence]

Whoa. Am I supposed to know who of the players like to be serious and who don't?

[dahill1]

well i think we've moved past the random stage
so we should all be serious now

[eldarad]

ABR, what is your opinion on our two sets of lovers?

Do you think it would be beneficial to lynch one of them on day 1 on the off-chance that they are scum?
Or do you think the 1/4 chance of a lover being treacherous (as opposed to 1/3 chance of a non-lover being scum) means we should lynch a non-lover instead?

[Albert B. Rampage]

We should lynch whoever's scummy, period.

The following song is dedicated to someone I hold in high regard, Jex:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=H1vaszd6NnA

[Qman]

If they were not being so obvious I'd think ABR and jex were lovers.

I know, thats WIMOFable for eons

[Sethaniel]

Defense of my actions:

Newbie. Stupid newbie. Check my join date.

I really did just want to see what response would come of it. ABR keeps insistently making "I love Jex" posts, which is a little weird. Obviously, I didn't think people would use it as a reason to lynch me. A lot of people were saying a lot of stupid things, and no one seems to have singled them out for death. (Specifically, elderad admits he was kind of serious in asking ABR about his vote, then jumps on the BW to lynch me.)

Well, if I die, when I'm proven townie, I hope it helps you find the real scum.

I'm guessing the scum will just claim that I was playing anti-town and deserved to die for being unhelpful anyway. (I can make a great argument against myself.)

@dahill Again: Newbie, stupid stupid newbie, doesn't know what's acceptable discussion and what's going too far.

[Albert B. Rampage]

O.K. guys, we've found our first scum. Let's lynch Sethaniel. Everybody now!

[Yoshi]

As pretty new myself, I can understand Sethaniel, and I actually accept his defense.

I find more suspicious this lover thing going on between Albert and Jex -- propagated by Albert. I don't think a town player would want to telegraph a lover connection so obviously as Albert has done. I can't believe I missed it -- but Qman's 117 really made me rethink Albert's play, and in a game with lovers it seems so foolish to make an implication you are a lover so publicly!

unvote: Jex; vote: Albert

Albert and Jex are the two I find the most suspicious. I'm interested in Korts replacement, too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We live together. We die together. Bad boys for life.

Everybody BUM RUSH SETHANIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!

[eldarad]

Defense of my actions:

Newbie. Stupid newbie. Check my join date.

I really did just want to see what response would come of it. ABR keeps insistently making "I love Jex" posts, which is a little weird. Obviously, I didn't think people would use it as a reason to lynch me. A lot of people were saying a lot of stupid things, and no one seems to have singled them out for death. (Specifically, elderad admits he was kind of serious in asking ABR about his vote, then jumps on the BW to lynch me.)

Well, if I die, when I'm proven townie, I hope it helps you find the real scum.

I'm guessing the scum will just claim that I was playing anti-town and deserved to die for being unhelpful anyway. (I can make a great argument against myself.)

@dahill Again: Newbie, stupid stupid newbie, doesn't know what's acceptable discussion and what's going too far.

Do you want to attempt this post again? Maybe with an actual defence this time? Being new doesn't make you stupid.
Also, what things have I said that are stupid?

We live together. We die together. Bad boys for life.

Everybody BUM RUSH SETHANIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!

Shut up ABR...

[dahill1]

Defense of my actions:

Newbie. Stupid newbie. Check my join date.

I really did just want to see what response would come of it. ABR keeps insistently making "I love Jex" posts, which is a little weird. Obviously, I didn't think people would use it as a reason to lynch me. A lot of people were saying a lot of stupid things, and no one seems to have singled them out for death. (Specifically, elderad admits he was kind of serious in asking ABR about his vote, then jumps on the BW to lynch me.)

Well, if I die, when I'm proven townie, I hope it helps you find the real scum.

I'm guessing the scum will just claim that I was playing anti-town and deserved to die for being unhelpful anyway. (I can make a great argument against myself.)

@dahill Again: Newbie, stupid stupid newbie, doesn't know what's acceptable discussion and what's going too far.

this is called playing the newbie card. however, you do seem to be sincere with what you say, but that doesn't mean i'm still not suspicious of you.

We live together. We die together. Bad boys for life.

Everybody BUM RUSH SETHANIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!

haha this isn't gonna work this time ABR, but nice try

[Jex]

First off

unvote

. I understand where farside is coming from. I've never playing in a game with Qman before so have no idea if he usually jokes or plays seriously. I no longer find that conversation suspicious.

ABR, what is your opinion on our two sets of lovers?

Do you think it would be beneficial to lynch one of them on day 1 on the off-chance that they are scum?
Or do you think the 1/4 chance of a lover being treacherous (as opposed to 1/3 chance of a non-lover being scum) means we should lynch a non-lover instead?

This post massively bothers me! If you look at the roles, killing one lover kills the other. Therefore, if we out the lovers then we will either kill 2 town or 1 town and 1 mafia based on which pair we lynch. I do not find this beneficial to the town in any way shape or form.

vote eldarad

Also, why ask ABR his opinion on the lovers instead of someone else, or the whole group? ABR has done nothing but suck up to me this game and advocate for quick lynches. Does this make him trustworthy enough to ask important questions in this game?

Third thing on this post, you are voting for sethaniel for asking and opinion from ABR yet you are doing the exact same thing. I find this hypocritical.

This post really stuck out as scummy to me.

I find more suspicious this lover thing going on between Albert and Jex -- propagated by Albert. I don't think a town player would want to telegraph a lover connection so obviously as Albert has done. I can't believe I missed it -- but Qman's 117 really made me rethink Albert's play, and in a game with lovers it seems so foolish to make an implication you are a lover so publicly!

I am not a lover with ABR. I never really thought about the fact that he may be trying to make it look that way with his posts. I tend to just write off ABR as joking and don't really take him seriously a lot of times. Overall, good point about him trying to make it look like he's a lover, bad conclusion because he is not my lover.