Mini #556 - The Most Excellent People Ever - Called.

[Korlash]

... hey I'll vote no lynch if someone promises me Urza will be Nked...

The sad part is... Half of me isn't kidding there...

[Urzassedatives]

... hey I'll vote no lynch if someone promises me Urza will be Nked...

The sad part is... Half of me isn't kidding there...

Lynch lynch lynch

Kill Kill KIll

[Korlash]

rake rake rake

shovel shovel shovel


Sorry thought we were doing sames and opposites for a moment...

[Urzassedatives]

UA, you're in TA, can't we just kill this clown?

[Korlash]

Panzer is too, why you asking the one already on me? SHouldn't you be trying to get new votes instead of trying to get the same person to vote twice?

Also I'm always up for a war with the buttcaps... what? Phannypacks... whatever they call themselves nowadays...

[The Jester]

Ah, I'm too old to keep up with you young people....

Yeah, percent-wise it's beneficial for Town if we don't lynch with an odd number of people alive. I'm keeping my vote, yay for thinking strategically.

[Urzassedatives]

You realize if we don't lynch we wont even kill the scum, right?

[UltimaAvalon]

Urz

I am in Team Asshat

So is panzer if I remember correctly

You are not

There is no"we" or "lets"

[Urzassedatives]

Do you have any CLUE who I am?

[lovo14]

It increases their chances of winning.

Something about Odd numbers.

If I remember this right, and I think I do. Scum just increase their chances by starting out with an uneven number. Ironic I decided to read an old mafia game to see this.

I think we don't lynch to give Town a better chance, if they nightkill, they decrease their chances of winning.

Vote: No Lynch

If I'm lynched because of the boring posts of Korlash, please lynch him the next day. Thanks.

vote: the jester

no lynch day 1 is scummy....we want to get info out of this day out of the randomness.

[lovo14]

It increases their chances of winning.

Something about Odd numbers.

If I remember this right, and I think I do. Scum just increase their chances by starting out with an uneven number. Ironic I decided to read an old mafia game to see this.

I think we don't lynch to give Town a better chance, if they nightkill, they decrease their chances of winning.

Vote: No Lynch

If I'm lynched because of the boring posts of Korlash, please lynch him the next day. Thanks.

vote: the jester

no lynch day 1 is scummy....we want to get info out of this day out of the randomness.

wrong thread stupid laptop never mind

[lovo14]

tripple post ftw..turns out this is the right thread. i need to read those numbers not the title....my vote and suspician stands

[The Jester]

*Sigh* It's not scummy, we don't really get information from a death from random talk.

Also, go look it up. and they all lived happily ever after on the wiki, it's beneficial to not lynch with an odd numbered amount of people.

FoS:lovo14

For not thinking.

[UltimaAvalon]

Other way around The Jester. Its beneficial to No Lynch with an even amount of people. Besides, there are people who havent even posted yet. Slow down.

Urza: no one important

[The Jester]

Dang it. I thought I had that right.

I need to go read it again.

[The Jester]

As you can see from the table of probabilities in Numbers, Part 1, the probability for the Town winning actually increases if the game starts with an even number of players instead of a slightly higher odd number. For example, a game with 8 players (1 Mafia) gives the Town a 54.29% chance of winning, while in a game with 9 Players (1 Mafia), the probability drops to 45.31%. These numbers assume that both the Mafia and the Lynch Mob kill every day, but what if they don't have to? If the Mafia choose not to kill on the first night, it is as if the game has started with 9 players instead of 8; the Mafia has increased its chances by 9%! But, it is then in the Town's best interest to not lynch (for the same reason). By this logic, no one will ever die! - mith

So if mafia could kill night 0, that was why? So wouldn't no lynching be now? We keep the odd number, if they kill, than it's an even number, and their chances drop.

If we don't no lynch, we go to even, they kill, it's back in their favor with an odd number.

[UltimaAvalon]

unvote
Vote: The Jester

[The Jester]

I miscounted, isn't that nice. I really need to get a hobby.

Unvote

We already have an even number so it's already in our favor.

Hmmm so basing it off that we should lynch today, It's a toss up between Urza and UA.

Urza's a senseless killing machine and UA...well I think the phrase "Stupid Matsuda" fits here rather well....heh matsuda.

[UltimaAvalon]

Incorrect sir.

Here's why.

There are 4 people who can be considered giving active content.

1) UA
2)Urza
3)Korlash
4)The Jester

Of these 4, 2 are on your "I want to vote" list, one was at L-1, and the other is you. Therefore, you have no idea who to attack besides those who are talking.

At the same time, the reasons you give are not "They are scum" but "They're senseless/stupid"

Try harder

[The Jester]

With that same logic, your vote on me means.....the exact same thing, absolutely nothing?

All right. I'm going with what I have, I don't get to magically have everyone talk; also urza's posts are unhelpful to say the least. Your vote on me was explained by yourself to be...unimportant, and at least I had a reason for mine.

[Urzassedatives]

You can't just make assertions like that in a game of mafia. Why are my posts unhelpful?

[PJ.]

UA, I'm not contributing actively?

Anyway,

FoS: Urza

for being soo damn hostile and reckless. Are you even putting though nto your post.

Huge FoS: Jester

I don't know if you are being scummy or stupid..the lines have become blurrier and blurrier as this game has gone on.

[The Jester]

Explain than.

I mis-read the number of people, if it was an odd amount of people we would no-lynch to statistically increase our chances of winning. But that doesn't work cause we have 12, my bad. So a no lynch is bad here, I retracted my mistake.

UA comes in voting me, than explaining how me being suspicious of him with reason unlike him, is bad? Even though his own logic makes his vote look stupid?

I'm the scummy stupid one? Right.

I thought this was the most EXCELLENT people ever...

If the enemies are dick-heads I think I know who they are now.

[Urzassedatives]

Yes. Read my posts again. I am challenging the traditional meta that d1s need to go slow, and also challenging the traditional meta that discussion is always a good thing. It isn't. Discussion is often a tool used by scum to obfuscate an issue. Discussion such as we're having right now (talking about discussion.) is absolutely meaningless is terms of real game application. The best things to analyze are actions, not words. So lets get back to lynching korlash, so we can all look back on this bandwagon tomorrow and gauge others actions. We're all sitting around with our thumbs up our asses right now, and nothing is getting accomplished.

In addition, I have stopped thinking voting NL is a sign of scumminess long ago. The meta is thus that any self respecting scum who wanted to not get a lot of needless attention d1 would never do it. As such, i'm like 95% sure jester is town.

Can we get back to lynching korlash now?

[Urzassedatives]

The Jester: Actually, he didn't explain his vote on you, so how can you make any extrapolations whatsoever what it does or does not mean.

His logic is that since you find people suspicious for being Quote: Stupid and senseless endquote rather than scummy, you're not actually finding scum. You're argument "BUT YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING LOL" While correct in admitting you are stupid and senseless, does not actually have any validitity at the point where you have no clue why he's voting you.

In fact, I'd say it's even more likely that he's not voting you for the NL, since he posted directly on it without so much as even FoSing you.