Mini 550: KSFV: Game Over

[armlx]

Yeah, not gonna vote him for now.

[SensFan]

Vote: ryan

Not random.

[ryan]

Vote: ryan

Not random.

Excellent, than would you care to give your reasoning for why it's not random you are voting me on Page 2?

[thinktank]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if it were a jester gambit?

Not particularly.

I can think of better ways to get lynched and without it being quite so obvious...

Lol that's not what I meant. I meant that it'd would be kind of ironic if the town thinking he was a jester role, kept him alive and he actually turned to be scum. I agree with you that if he were jester there would be better ways of getting lynched and not making it that painfully obvious. The fact that he's already made 3 role claims on the day the game opens is quite contradictory to the that logic, which is what leads me to think that he may not necessarily be a jester but rather scum.

[ryan]

Or he's a VI

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

Seriously, throwing out a vote and saying it's not random but not saying anything else?

I sure hope you [SensFan] weren't expecting that to go unnoticed, because now you have the attention of at least two people here. And I'm sure there might be others who might like to know your "non-random" reasons.

And as for Greasy Spot being a jester... This is Vegas. It could be possible.

[vIQleS]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if it were a jester gambit?

Not particularly.

I can think of better ways to get lynched and without it being quite so obvious...

Lol that's not what I meant. I meant that it'd would be kind of ironic if the town thinking he was a jester role, kept him alive and he actually turned to be scum. I agree with you that if he were jester there would be better ways of getting lynched and not making it that painfully obvious. The fact that he's already made 3 role claims on the day the game opens is quite contradictory to the that logic, which is what leads me to think that he may not necessarily be a jester but rather scum.

Right - gotcha, scum tactic acting like a jester and thus not getting lynched...

What's a VI?

[SensFan]

I'm happy to share reasoning, I just thought I'd check for a reaction from ryan first.

Anyway, I think its a load of crap to be even thinking of a jester at this stage. Honestly, it looks like you're trying to set a precedent for scummy behavior to be left alone, fearing a jester. You should be voting the person you feel is scummiest, not worrying about whether they are "trying" to be scummy.

[SensFan]

EBWODP: VI is Village Idiot, I presume.

[armlx]

If we honestly think they are a Jester, we can go for the plan of having the vig we might have killing him tonight. It's like a free lynch that doesn't lose the game. Only issue is it outs the presence of a vig or lack there of.

[vIQleS]

Does a jester need to be lynched to win?

And a jester win doesn't affect our town win does it?

Or are we just going to be mean and not lynch him?

[Unity]

I think if the town lynches the Jester then the jester wins and everyone else loses.

Vote: armlx

because it kinda sounds like exlax and anybody that stuffed up must be hiding something! LOL.

[SensFan]

Does a jester need to be lynched to win?

And a jester win doesn't affect our town win does it?

Or are we just going to be mean and not lynch him?

A Jester has a win condition that is satisfied if he gets lynched. In a mini, lynching the Jester almost always ends the game.

[vIQleS]

Ok - i've only ever seen that when reading bigger games - i think it was different...

[Greasy Spot]

I am the Hypnotist. I make people do things they don't remember they did at night.

[Unity]

FOS: vIQleS

and bits and bits

'Cuz he's just about the ugliest darn klingon I've ever seen!

[Joubert]

And as for Greasy Spot being a jester... This is Vegas. It could be possible.

Yeah, he may just be the very incarnation of the Joker card...

Vote: Greasy Spot

, for having the funniest role...

[aioqwe]

that's your new name mr gnome it all...

It's hardly new... Check my joined date. People have been shortening it to just gnome since my first game.

I'm so newb just making a joke

I support sensfan's vote. However, I want to see his reason. Ryan in my eyes has responded enough. Until you present the evidence against him.

[SensFan]

that's your new name mr gnome it all...

It's hardly new... Check my joined date. People have been shortening it to just gnome since my first game.

I'm so newb just making a joke

I support sensfan's vote. However, I want to see his reason. Ryan in my eyes has responded enough. Until you present the evidence against him.

Major FoS: aioqwe

, read post 32. More importantly, why would you support my vote if you didn't know the reasoning?

[thinktank]

that's your new name mr gnome it all...

It's hardly new... Check my joined date. People have been shortening it to just gnome since my first game.

I'm so newb just making a joke

I support sensfan's vote. However, I want to see his reason. Ryan in my eyes has responded enough. Until you present the evidence against him.

Why would you support something you don;t the know the reason behind? If you support it why aren't you calling out ryan on it? and what exactly are you calling out if you don't know why exactly you agree with sensefan? And if you're calling out ryan on something he has done, then why are you telling him not to talk? If you feel like he is scum then he should defend himself, but if you feel he should not then you must be certain that he is, in which case why aren't you voting for him? Your statement does not fly, it just wreaks of scummyness. It is a scum tactic to hide behind other people's opinions so they don't have to justify their own.

FoS: aioqwe

[ryan]

I'm happy to share reasoning, I just thought I'd check for a reaction from ryan first.

Anyway, I think its a load of crap to be even thinking of a jester at this stage. Honestly, it looks like you're trying to set a precedent for scummy behavior to be left alone, fearing a jester. You should be voting the person you feel is scummiest, not worrying about whether they are "trying" to be scummy.

You have GOT to be kidding me. A load of crap to look at his posts which make no sense, jump around with claims and not think that he could be a jester? WHY not? I don't fear the jester but I also don't want to lose by lynching somebody who is throwing out crazy role claims. For you not to take in account ALL possible roles is very narrowminded.

[SensFan]

You, sir, are right. I am terribly sorry, I was working under the completely ridiculous assumption that perhaps he was a scum, trying to look too scummy, digging for the reaction you had to his post. How I failed to realize that scum are by definition stupid, and will only be SOMEWHAT scummy, not overly scummy. Furthermore, his join date is so obviously misleading, and he cannot be a newb, so I'm wrong on that account as well. Boy, I sure am pretty poor at this game, what with expecting scum to be dumb, and everyone to always play perfectly, never making mistakes.

Again, my apologies. I see now that him being a jester is, in fact, a given. I would vote for him, if it weren't for the fact that I was so humbled by your amazing arguments that I've currently forgotten how to change my vote.

[ryan]

GREAT, we have a narrow minded "My arguments are always right and your's aren't" among us, this ought to make the game REAL fun now. Take the time to actually read my reply and than when you've done that do it one more time and after that try and sit back and understand how I was trying to explain that a jester could easily come out of the gates like he did and try to get himself lynched early to win, after you've done all of that rinse lather and repeat.

[SensFan]

I'm not narrow-minded at all. In fact, I'm rather open-minded to ideas and all, but this is just too much. I severely doubt that a jester would be so mind-bogglingly obvious about trying to get lynched, and think it even less likely that there is a jester in this game. Jester is a role that is practically bastard-modding in and of itself, and I strongly doubt the mod would put one in a mini. I would equate the chance of there being a Jester to the odds that the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup this year. To be honest, I'm willing to lynch the scummiest player, every day, and risk losing to a Jester. I've probably played in 20+ games on this site, and have read even more. Guess how many games I know of have been lost by the lynching of a jester? If you picked 1, you guessed too high...

[ryan]

If you weren't narrow minded you would allow yourself a chance to see that a jester could be available that is what I'm trying to say with an opinion. Why do you believe he's come out with 4 different role claims?