Thespival Mafia (Denouement)

[Mizzy]

I am willing to change my mind. I just need a good reason to.

[Holy]

With my limited amount of playtime, I worry that were I to place the first vote, I would not have time to react fast enough to any developments. I don't want the town to lose just because I can't be quick on my feet at the moment.

Oh Mizzy, what's the difference between the first who voting with the hammerer? Let's assume there's already two vote thrown each other between player A and B, still should decide who will be hammered between them; being the first or the last voter doesn't mean the most suspicious person would be changed so suddenly (considering the decision optimistically made with our best ability), don't you think so?
Hm, or in this case a triangle vote... assume: the last voter is B the innocent. C vote A, A vote B, and I(B) vote C (my scummy scum); if scum is A, A would unvote and hammer C; if scum is C, before B placing the vote, C might unvote and hammer B first. Well (considering you won't place the first vote) what would you do by pretending you're the B (the last voter), Mizzy? Uhhn.., on second thought...it's pointless asking you this actually.
Oh wait... (you can just forget that two silly case), I forgot about the longest held vote thing, the scum can just wait 'till deadline pretending as a confused townie if the first voted isn't the scum.
That whole ifs may applied to mathcam too.


Hm Cam, yeah I guess I'll stay on Mizzywagon, if I'm wrong about you, I guess it means my experience still not enough...or I'm just suck at this game...

[Holy]

I am willing to change my mind. I just need a good reason to.

Oh, such a cruel fate indeed... ;_;

[Holy]

Oh wait...

(you can just forget that two silly case)

, I forgot about the longest held vote thing, the scum can just wait 'till deadline pretending as a confused townie if the first voted isn't the scum.

EBWOP:
Well I Am confused there :p , ^ the scum can just hammer I guess. So forget this line:

(you can just forget that two silly case)

too.

[mathcam]

Holy: I'm confused as to why you wouldn't have voted for Mizzy, then. Trying to leave options open?

Mizzy: Since I'm starting to think you're scum, maybe it's silly to continue to try to convince you, but note that if I were scum, I think it's clear how easy it would have been for me to have joined with Holy to get you lynched by now.

Cam

[Mizzy]

All everyone is doing is waiting for someone else to make the first move. That is how the day will end; it just matters

who

will make that move. So I don't think not wanting to vote first can be held against me, considering that at least one other townie is doing the same damned thing I am.

Math, you do make a good point, actually.

[Thesp]

Official D7 Vote Count

Not Voting - 3

(Holy, mathcam, Mizzy)

With 3 alive, it's 2 to lynch.

Deadline in ~4 days.

[Holy]

Holy: I'm confused as to why you wouldn't have voted for Mizzy, then. Trying to leave options open?

Mizzy: Since I'm starting to think you're scum, maybe it's silly to continue to try to convince you, but note that if I were scum, I think it's clear how easy it would have been for me to have joined with Holy to get you lynched by now.

Cam

Lol! Is the situation really would be that simple there, can't I be wrong this time?
There's still plenty of time mathcam, why are you so rushy? Like you said my careless rushy vote would end with Mizzy hammered if I'm wrong about you.
Let me do my little meta search for awhile in this peaceful weekend =)

[mathcam]

The deadline is in three days, and since our posting is somewhat sporadic, it could take a day or so for the dust to settle. In any case, my intent was not to rush, but to probe.

Cam

[Mizzy]

Holy, please do not wait until the last minute because if you take too long, the deadline could hit and we wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

[Holy]

^Alas, I'm not liking the last minute idea either, I'm doing my best here... Just a little more...haven't finished. Tomorrow maybe..., along with the vote. That's what you all wished, isn't it? ;_; Uhh I'll be damned if I'm wrong, o gosh.

[mathcam]

That's too late. Unless there's the immediate hammer, it'll take at least a day for the votee to plead their case for an unvote, and for people to process it. We're already short on time.

I'll make a decision tonight if you haven't done so by then.

Cam

[Mizzy]

I think Holy's hesitation and stalling is enough to make me think she's our last scum/sk standing to be honest.

[mathcam]

Time to come clean. I'm as confident as I think I'm going to get (say, 70/30) that Holy is the last scum. This suspicion was slightly present at the start of the day, but really developed after finishing both the "anti" posts earlier today -- I had plenty of things to bring up against Holy, but my points against Mizzy were mostly a stretch. The catch, of course, was that Mizzy seemed rather anti-mathcam at that point, so an aggressive attack on Holy would have likely ended the game quickly with a mathcam lynch. So I tried to make it look like my suspicions were balanced, and give Holy the sense that I might hammer Mizzy if Holy put the first vote on. In actuality, I was rather hoping Holy would vote Mizzy so that by not hammering Mizzy, I would prove myself pro-town to Mizzy, and we'd lynch Holy. The plan faltered when Holy deftly deferred placing a vote (you can see my disappointment in post 2154). The "taking a day for the dust to settle" I referenced before was this sequence of events. Now it would be too much of a risk to wait for Holy's vote sometime Sunday before attempting it, I've decided just to abandon it and go with my read.

Vote: Holy.

Mizzy: For what it's worth, I think it's highly likely that Holy would have come back with a vote on you, since a) her last several votes have all indicated you as her preference, and b) your last couple of
posts attacking her probably did not help your cause. So I think there's only a miniscule amount of WIFOM when I say that I almost certainly would not be making this post if I were scum -- I would just
make the vastly easier play of letting Holy place her vote on you, and then hammer. On the other hand, if you're scum, then, well, dammit.

Cam

[Holy]

^I'm speechless Cam. I'm in the middle of my interesting reading of Mizzy's Mostly Mountainous, it was over at May 27, 2008. The situation almost similar with this one, it was on lylo, along with all her difficult RL situation, she was townie on there and in there she played more vocal than this one. I already said if I would make the final decision today, I said that because I don't know if I could follow the game well after Sunday, especially on Monday, there's no stalling intention at all. So based from what I've read, here's my

vote: Mizzy

.

[Mizzy]

Going on evidence, gut and frustration at Holy for not fucking paying attention anything I have said about my decreased levels due to having a newborn at home. My participation level has nothing to do with my alignment and I am so, so sick of saying so.

Vote: Holy

[Holy]

Lol!

[mathcam]

If Mizzy doesn't kill me overnight, the tension surely will.

Not the SK.

Cam

[Thesp]

And that's it - Holy's been lynched. Just in time, too, the next meet is just about to start! And with that, Holy, please show us your card:

Holy,

Werewolf

, has been lynched.

With that, mathcam rushes over to the computer to update the Wiki page for Thespival. The frantic typing worries Mizzy, who reaches over to flip over mathcam's card to see...

mathcam,

Mafia Godfather, Vengeful Style

, has lived!

THE MAFIA HAVE WON!

Mizzy,

Townie

, has been endgamed.

Great game, all. Notes and roles coming later tonight.

[Mizzy]

OMFG. I hate this game

[Thesp]

OMFG. I hate this game

Yeah, I hated the last day for you. mathcam's notes on the last day are fascinating, I'll link the QuickTopic if the mafia's good with it.

[Mizzy]

OMFG. I hate this game

Yeah, I hated the last day for you. mathcam's notes on the last day are fascinating, I'll link the QuickTopic if the mafia's good with it.

Yeah there literally was no way for me to win it for the town. It was lost yesterday for us.

[mathcam]

I have no objections, but you should check with everyone else too.

Sorry, Mizzy! Your position sucked, but at least you know you couldn't have played it any better. Even no lynch wouldn't have helped.

How come Holy survived the nightkill?

Cam

[Beep! Beep!]

I said mathcam was scum.

[hasdgfas]

Cow Happy