Open 58--Texas Showdown - Over - before 545

[Nocmen]

Right now, here's what I see on the game. ssf has some good points, but that could make sense from either a town or a scum perspective. I want to hear from Jester regarding his focus on certain points a few posts up. Flameaxe just needs to post more, I'm really beginning to consider just lynching him, because his previous activity along with the current absence really is making me think of him as scum. Incognito really is flipflopping.

But for now,

Vote: Flameaxe

. With this new lurking adding to what he has contributed this game, I really think he is scum.

[Incognito]

Incognito's lack of crap-case defence confuses me. Both scum and town should be defending themselves against craplogic, but he hasn't. I was also thinking of voting him for inconsistencies regarding his playstyle. Firstly he was overthinking, and now he can't see crap in front of him? But again, both town or scum could be doing this.

I'm confused. Why would I need to defend myself against a crap-logic case? You stated quite clearly that your reason for voting for me was not very strong. From my perspective, a person who hammered me basing their vote off of the case you created against me would most likely be scum. Are you suggesting that I should have directed an attack against you for creating a crap-logic case against me? And if you yourself knew that the case was crap-logic, why would you still push it forward and place me at L-1 when Nocmen has already voiced his opinion about my alignment? You're making yourself look scummier and scummier.

Nocmen, so now you've shifted your number three suspect into your number one hole?

[somestrangeflea]

You're whole post is irrelevant because my earlier post relates entirely to reactions to post 77, and your current one relates to 89.

[somestrangeflea]

EBWOP: You're => Your.

[Incognito]

So you're talking about the numbers portion of your post 77?

[somestrangeflea]

So you're talking about the numbers portion of your post 77?

Yeah. The numbers have no relevance, and Nocmen was the only person who came close to realising that fact.

I tried to work out reasons why that may have happened.

[Incognito]

I personally didn't understand them and didn't see them as an attack against me. Further, the only time numbers like those have any relevance in a game of Mafia is when you're assuming the players are randomly voting for one another without using information that was drawn from the game thread. Therefore, I personally decided not to comment on them because it didn't seem like a strong argument anyway regardless of whether or not your numbers were actually correct, and I thought they seemed a tad self-righteous (I don't know about all of you but I'm definitely town so you guys fit into these numbers, not me!). It seems like Nocmen's issue with them is that he classified them as WIFOMy. I'm guessing that he means in the sense where your numbers rely on us assuming that you're town, which is a difficult assumption for us to make unless of course two of the people who read your numbers were scum and could definitely know that you're town.

Flameaxe doesn't seem to be reading the thread, period, so I would imagine that's why he didn't comment on them. I can't speak for Jester's reason though.

[Nocmen]

What's wrong with some good ol' pressure on the lurker?

[Incognito]

What's wrong with some good ol' pressure on the lurker?

Nothing. But this is what you said:

But for now,

Vote: Flameaxe

. With this new lurking adding to what he has contributed this game, I really think he is scum.

[somestrangeflea]

I personally didn't understand them and didn't see them as an attack against me. Further, the only time numbers like those have any relevance in a game of Mafia is when you're assuming the players are randomly voting for one another without using information that was drawn from the game thread. Therefore, I personally decided not to comment on them because it didn't seem like a strong argument anyway regardless of whether or not your numbers were actually correct, and I thought they seemed a tad self-righteous (I don't know about all of you but I'm definitely town so you guys fit into these numbers, not me!).

Touchez.

t seems like Nocmen's issue with them is that he classified them as WIFOMy. I'm guessing that he means in the sense where your numbers rely on us assuming that you're town

No they don't. They rely on the person reading them being town.

[Incognito]

BUMP! This thing got bumped to page 2 with MeMe's locking of threads.

[Khelvaster]

If discussion doesn't pick up in the next 72 hours, I am deadlining this.

[Jester]

Where the hell is Flameaxe in all of this?

I want to hear from Jester regarding his focus on certain points a few posts up.

And I'm not sure I understand this? What are you asking for?

[Incognito]

Blah.

[Jester]

If it wasn't obvious what I was looking for,

mod

, how about a Flameaxe prod? He's quite active elsewhere on the site. As a matter of fact, and at the risk of being accused of meta-gaming, he's made more than 200 posts to this site since his last "contribution" to this game.

[Nocmen]

I agree, I am still waiting to hear from Flameaxe, but Incognito's blah...?

[somestrangeflea]

I agree, I am still waiting to hear from Flameaxe

Ditto.

[Incognito]

I agree, I am still waiting to hear from Flameaxe, but Incognito's blah...?

Nocmen, you make me laugh. Are you seriously trying to stoop low enough to suggest that my "blah" could be a scum tell? Can someone hammer this guy already?

P.S. You still haven't responded to the post I wrote about you a few posts up. That's what

I'm

personally waiting for (in addition to more feedback from the Flameaxe).

[Jester]

P.S. You still haven't responded to the post I wrote about you a few posts up. That's what

I'm

personally waiting for (in addition to more feedback from the Flameaxe).

You also haven't said what you meant by your question for me in your 100, Nocmen.

[Khelvaster]

The Corrected, Everyone is Finally Voting, Votecount

Nocmen (2) -- Jester, Incognito
Incognito (2) -- Flameaxe, somestrangeflea
Flameaxe(1) -- Nocmen

[Incognito]

I wonder what's more likely - us coming to an agreement on a lynch or Khelvaster actually getting a vote count correct EVAR.

Khel, SSF isn't voting me anymore; he's not voting at all right now. Also, could you

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease

prod Flameaxe?

[Nocmen]

Though, I love how you comment about how Incog shouldn't be at L-1, and yet if your vote really is on me as you claim, that would put me also at L-1.

[Khelvaster]

Nocmen, last votecount was the one you posted. You told me I was wrong and you were right. I took yours and modified it for flameaxe.

Nocmen (2) -- Jester, Incognito
Incognito (1) -- Flameaxe
Flameaxe(1) -- Nocmen

Somestrangeflea--Not Voting

[Incognito]

What's wrong with some good ol' pressure on the lurker?

Nothing. But this is what you said:

But for now,

Vote: Flameaxe

. With this new lurking adding to what he has contributed this game, I really think he is scum.

[Jester]

Though, I love how you comment about how Incog shouldn't be at L-1, and yet if your vote really is on me as you claim, that would put me also at L-1.

Nocmen, look at my 96. I answered this already. I was the first vote on you. Incognito put you at L-1. That said, I didn't feel it was appropriate for an

unsupported

, or a weak vote to put someone at L-1.

mod

, consider me on V/LA from this game until such time as Flameaxe posts. Either prod him (a

lot

) or replace him.

We've been asking for prods on this guy for a week now.