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The doc should really be enough in this scenario

Massive, are you arguing that a strongman vig is negative utility?

In post 2324, Flubbernugget wrote:You guys are really trying to say an x-day strongman is a counter to several roleblockers and an unlimited shot doc inventor?

Giving scum power to counter all the town power is not how you balance games...

If they had 2 strongmen all 3 of those roles would be relatively useless

If they're x-day it forces them to use suboptimal players to perform nk's. So as a "meta mechanic" it can still make sense

How exactly is this much town power not currently broken for scum?

In post 2326, Flubbernugget wrote:Massive, are you arguing that a strongman vig is negative utility?

I am not. I am arguing that if we have three strongman kills the doc gifts are useless. If scum could kill N2 AND N3 through doc shots (which, btw, don't start until N2) then what exactly is the point?

There's just no other explanation. There's no roleblocker -- Magna was the town even-night RB and even then, Leon said no blocking action last night.

I doubt TTH put in town protective roles just to force scum to play worse into the watcher. That assumes the stronger players have the strongman (or else the same players would make the kill) and thathe watcher actually catches scum.

The amount of power is fine imo if scum have 3 decent PRs and town doesn't have a watcher.

Remember I was bulletproof until spyro died. We had way too many claims but I should've eaten at least one kill. Idk if that makes a difference.

UNVOTE: we will see what mod says

Ok well i believe flubber. Because if he was only the investigative, then there would be a missing protective. Let's lynch ragingspamers

At least we know massive visited, so there's a doc. Night 3 strongman is dead, so I'll live to see another day. I assume.

I'm going to believe flubber and massive and Leon are town.

I feel like it's possible nm used role cop on rc night 1, possible partners with rs, who would've known there's no fear of a super Saint.

In post 2205, RagingSpammers wrote:btw if you couldn't tell, me hammering RC was obviously a scum claim.
Like what else could it be? A town claim. There's no way I'm town!
-Ali

In post 2274, RagingSpammers wrote:Waaaaaaaaat, I swear I saw 2 scum PRs do their thing in the scum PT!
Like ya know, actual actions.
-Ali

Like what are these besides actual scum claims for the laughs? I see no other reason to be saying this shit as town

Oh no, Lane caught me!
What will I ever do?
I guess Lane is a scum!IC cuz he really wants to bus me.
-Ali

In post 2338, lane0168 wrote:

In post 2205, RagingSpammers wrote:btw if you couldn't tell, me hammering RC was obviously a scum claim.
Like what else could it be? A town claim. There's no way I'm town!
-Ali

In post 2274, RagingSpammers wrote:Waaaaaaaaat, I swear I saw 2 scum PRs do their thing in the scum PT!
Like ya know, actual actions.
-Ali

Like what are these besides actual scum claims for the laughs? I see no other reason to be saying this shit as town

They're traitor crumbs for my scumteam.
-Ali

If I had a dayvig, I would dayvig myself.
Twice
Ya know, since I'm a doublevoter.
Double the votes!
Double the me getting shot!
Am I rite?
Or Am I rite?
-Ali

Lane, why couldn't scumwatcher!flubber have used the watch shot and the doc shot? Why do you think there are 2 strongmen?

Eh, we know that Flubber used the doc since there's no other claimed protective. Being able to use two abilities in one night is unusual, but not impossible. At that point, the only reason to scumread Flubber is setup spec, which I despise.

UNVOTE:

In post 2321, Flubbernugget wrote:

In post 2299, Leonshade wrote:Depends on the reason for hiding the second watch.

You seemed to have reasonable suspicion that my lack of claim made sense. Yet you still voted for me.

I got excited that my ability might have caught scum. Hiding who massive targeted is a good idea.

Scumpool still the same. RS looks like he's just playing up his VI antics now.

VOTE: RagingSpammers

Though no way does scum have a "Day 2 Doublevoter" against this much town power. N_M could rolecop RS, if RS has something else it's a scumclaim and if not, I might actually believe they're town.

VOTE: Aella

Though that is contingent on N_M being town.

But we're in MYLO if we mislynch today, so if NM is scum and RS is town, he could just claim the wrong result on RS and score the winning mislynch that way. There's not really a way to clear N_M, either.

If we're not lynching flubber, we should be lynching in aella and me today because it's very unlikely town has odd- and even-night rbs, conditional BP, doc giver, and commuter

I still find it very unlikely scum have 2 strongmen, but aella is scummiest by play anyway.