Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah the main reason I think that Fro99er is scum is that I think he's been deliberately aiming to shut down my play in this game.

[nancy]

What if it's a Jar Jar, Matt, Frogger scumteam?

Unlikely for scum!Fro99er and scum!mbg to be cross-bussing at this point. Granted, last ditch effort is kind of where the scumteam has to be at right now, so it's not out of the realm of possibility. Most likely scumteams look like Fro99er/LUV and mbg/Sheep. I'm still a little doubtful of any really obvious pairings but whatever.

[Keyser Söze]

What if it's a Jar Jar, Matt, Frogger scumteam?

Would need alot of convincing on a Matt-Frogger team.
Frogger could do the double-bus, but the way he came into the thread with his dramatic 1v1's, we are too cynical to give him town points for lynching scum. I.e even if he pushed through lynches on his 2 teammates he'd still be up for a lynch.
No tactical gain = can't see the scum-motivation. Thus, I doubt this pairing right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

People have said that about my slot before when I was chain bussing and then I've endgamed them Keyser.

[Akarin]

Only Rauth can call someone 100% town.
You t/clearing non-confirmed players and narrowing down the lynch pool only narrows our focus (anti-town).
Anyone is up for the lynch (including me) except for RC and Rauth.
Hard defending a player without an investigation just causes a distraction.

[Keyser Söze]

Akarin, who did you want to half-hour hammer?

[Akarin]

Akarin, who did you want to half-hour hammer?

That was a thing called sarcasm. Every time I try to read this game when I have a bunch of pages to catch up on, someone hammers and ends the day.

[RadiantCowbells]

So mean.

Anyway, I'm not going to catch up until tomorrow.

Also, who died and made you RC?

[Pine]

Could we get a vote count please?

I'll be home in a few hours. At my parents' for dinner.

[nancy]

There are just 3 votes on Fro99er right now and I don't think anyone else has voted anyone.

[Keyser Söze]

We really need to flip the roleblocker today, that's kind of at the forefront of my mind.

Have you ruled out a town-jailkeeper?

[Fro99er]

There are just 3 votes on Fro99er right now and I don't think anyone else has voted anyone.

I'm voting MBG

[nancy]

We really need to flip the roleblocker today, that's kind of at the forefront of my mind.

Have you ruled out a town-jailkeeper?

Never occurred to me actually.

Sorry Fro99er. Didn't mean to make you feel like you didn't exist.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 3.1 <==

With 10 votes in play, it's 6 to lynch!

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[L-6]

Grendel -

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Akarin -

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Rautherdir -

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Lil Uzi Vert -

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nancy -

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Cooperative Sheep -

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Keyser Söze -

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Fro99er - RadiantCowbells, mattblackguy, nancy

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mattblackguy - Fro99er

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RadiantCowbells -

Waiting for their DOOM

- Grendel, Akarin, Rautherdir, Lil Uzi Vert, Cooperative Sheep, Keyser Söze,

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2017-03-01 19:45:00)

[Grendel]

Lol, I've been abysmal at keeping up with this game.

Maybe I should just stick to subbing into games with lurk sack rosters from here on out.

Anycase I'm currently caught up.

NowLetMeSee...

[Grendel]

It was his exchange with RC where he gave me the impression that he didn't care about sorting alignments. His posts could be pretty easily faked imo, he hasn't done much to actually advance the game at all and he's just been blending a lot. He hasn't taken stances. Idk maybe I'm just being pigheaded.

In a situation where all my strongest town reads are heading the game state, meanwhile I’m not super confidant on most of my scum reads... my play becomes much more passive. Why should I be all loud with my opinion if there are several town looking players that want the microphone instead? If I were in a game with inactive posters and no solid town block I’d be much more aggressive.

You can interpret things anyway you like, but the narrative you’re reading into is fiction. I’ve been vocally insecure about my scum reads over a lot of the game. So speaking reasonably, I see no harm in asking a strong tr for reassurance on their read when I’m still figuring out my own. I wasn’t trying to pull RC away from anybody, and if that’s what you got out of that interaction then I suggest rereading.

I'm honestly baffled that this is really the crux of the case. I kept thinking there was something more you elaborated about given the strength of your read. But a repetition of this is all you've offered.

[Grendel]

@Nancy

Why did you maintain me as second in line scum read yesterday, then instead of voting me today you bumped Mattblk up to your primary sr?

I had a strong tr on Transend, but your read progression looks like linkage fmpov, and later it'll look like a back pocket read to everybody else.

The way you keep bouncing between sheeping RC, and Fo99er is gross too. Their at odds with each other, and moving to support one then the other is stretching the contentions between them.

[Grendel]

matt why is Grendel a hard TR for you?

I already said this before... I don't see any scum motivation in his play at all. Almost all of his posts is him townposting. It's all genuine too. Not sure how else I can say this. Can you actually quote some things that make Grendel scum?

Can you quote things that make me town Mattblk?

I'm among your strongest town reads. Yet, your whole case is that "My gut says Grendel is town" with no context. Unless you count something as vague as "town posting" without quotes to be context.

That's not helpful, and looks fake.

[Grendel]

My scum dream team would be:

{JarJar, Mattblk, Sheep}

Unfortunately though I seem to recall them to all be on the same wagon at some point. Depending on context it could hurt this team as a possibility.

[nancy]

Hey Grendel. Sorry if my SR on you is making me look really stupid to you. I like you even if you end up being scum.

pedit wowzer. Voting you at this point would be vanity. I'm not sheeping either Fro99er or RC at this point. I can see both scum!Fro99er and town!Fro99er. Before RC explained his scumread on Fro99er I had only my read of his interactions with JJD as scum theater versus the scumread on mbg and the apparent associatives there with JJD. Once RC explained his scumread on Fro99er I was able to see much more of the potential scumfuckery of Fro99er and I don't think we're putting ourselves in a bad position by mislynching town!Fro99er given that without him there would only be 2-3 realistic scumspects left. And yeah, I'm completely aware that I may be in a tunnel wrt you.

[Grendel]

Are your reads always this fluid?

You're also talking to me like you know I'm town. :/

Like, you are making me paranoid nancy.

[nancy]

Yes they are always this fluid. I typically talk to all my scumreads as if they are Town, even when I'm pushing them, which is why it's apparently so hard to read me. I can live with the paranoia.

[Grendel]

I mean I hate being scum read, but I'm not like upset at you or anything.

I don't get why the basis of such a strong scum read comes from something subjective with no hard logic to beef it up.

Especially when you were finding hard reasons to scum read other players. So its not like you've established yourself to be a guts only kinda player.

[Grendel]

My scum dream team would be:

{JarJar, Mattblk, Sheep}

Unfortunately though I seem to recall them to all be on the same wagon at some point. Depending on context it could hurt this team as a possibility.

Eh, they were all on my rvs wagon.

Way to make everything about myself.

I guess it wouldn't have been a big deal if they didn't vote as a block (all three where next to each other on the wagon). Pretty sure scum would spread out, or at least not neighbor each other. idk, maybe it being a rvs wagon would discount this.

JarJar also sheeped the sheep later too. This is not normal behavior. Could be that Sheep intended to do that. Mmm... naw that's a stretch I think.

But if not sheep then who?

[Grendel]

I think that town Fo99er is more likely then scum fro99er.

Subbing into a game because he thought that another player was scum and wanted to wreak them sounds like something I'd do as town. Whereas I wouldn't bother if I subbed into a scum slot.

@anybody who knows

How big a busser is Fro9?