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In post 5898, drealmerz7 wrote:

In post 5895, Andrius wrote:
drealmerz, meanwhile, almost certainly scumread Nacho D2 but didn't push him. Walked into D3 (again this is IIRC) wanting me dead after a Sly flip but didn't join the Nacho wagon. Heck, he's voting GERRY today. I think drealmerz said enough about Nacho to look like he suspected Nacho without actually being part of the wagon while he sat on Sly HOPING for either a deadline lynch of Sly or a whimsical lynch anywhere else. I think that makes sense with what happened.

please actually quote the posts that make you come to these thoughts, otherwise it just looks to me like you're pulling it out of your ass

and no, I wasn't SRing nacho on D2 (again, quote where you got this from so I know wtf you're talking about and we can communicate and reach clarity)

You're asking me to go back and read this slog of a game for a few specific quotes?
I can't even get you to read and respond to "cases" on you a page ago, let alone A HUNDRED PAGES AGO.

andrius, you're just trying to paint a narrative and push it through rather than communicate to reach an understanding about how things actually went down - this is scumtactics

In post 5900, Andrius wrote:

In post 5898, drealmerz7 wrote: You're asking me to go back and read this slog of a game for a few specific quotes?
I can't even get you to read and respond to "cases" on you a page ago, let alone A HUNDRED PAGES AGO.

no I'm saying I want to know how you came to those thoughts, because they're inaccurate

it's not my fault you clogged up the thread with tons of shit that gives you a shit excuse to not do the work, it's yours

suffer through it and do it or quit playing

why do you think what you think? you should first of all be able to express that, and then you should abe able to give examples that allow us to see how you reached those thoughts

that's what playing mafia is

I first thought Firebringer might be scum who had like a town ability of just giving the BP and gave it to me as WIFOM and to buddy me.

But then the reason I asked if he was a JOAT was to make sure, since if at least two of his abilites (gunsmith, BP-giver or whatever) are pro-town, I doubt the role is anti-town. Unless it is and Firebringer is going for the long con giving me BP and outting Nacho, but that's very detrimental to scum and I don't really see it at all.

Ok.
I EFFORTED and went into your ISO and apparently you said Nacho's name less times than there were dwarves in The Hobbit.

pedit: No, I'm not. I'm trying to remember this slog of a game and apparently I remember you doing more than you actually did. Because all I remember of you D2 was:
1) voting Sly
2) hitting the bong
3) defending Zach
4) arms-length interactions with nachoscum

And apparently you didn't really interact with Nacho.
So there goes that.

"see guys, I rolefished for reasons, that makes it okay!!!'


pfffffffffffffff

In post 5905, Andrius wrote:Ok.
I EFFORTED and went into your ISO and apparently you said Nacho's name less times than there were dwarves in The Hobbit.

pedit: No, I'm not. I'm trying to remember this slog of a game and apparently I remember you doing more than you actually did. Because all I remember of you D2 was:
1) voting Sly
2) hitting the bong
3) defending Zach
4) arms-length interactions with nachoscum

And apparently you didn't really interact with Nacho.
So there goes that.

heyyy, great! reality instead of contrivance!! wowowwww!!!

In post 5904, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Unless it is and Firebringer is going for the long con giving me BP and outting Nacho, but that's very detrimental to scum and I don't really see it at all.

Precisely.
The [You, FB] is not out of the question, however.
You guys throw dead-weight Nacho out the window for massive towncred, praying the town vig doesn't try anything on two vaguely-claimed PRs while a mess of lurkers run around.
Namely since you know I'm not a vig.

Yeah the reason I feel weird from dreamz's POV interaction with nacho is that in the recent finished Fate game (mystic mafia) dreamz was ALL ON TOP of Nacho (they were both town), while here he has been largerly ignoring him, which is extremely weird.

and how many times did I mention:

pine, toog, gerry, maria, zach, FB, desp

on D2?

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In post 4565, Errantparabola wrote:

Votecount 2.3

I did laundry again today. It was raining, so I had to carry all of the laundry that I normally carry with two arms with one arm, and hold my umbrella in the other arm, shielding my clothes from the rain. Because even though you can get to most places under overhangs that have been built with the buildings, for SOME REASON that doesn't exist for the way between my building and the laundry room.

I'm convinced that laundry here is an experiment carried out by my university to see how much emotional torture a human spirit can take before snapping and physically attacking the innocent laundry appliances.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

Pine

(4): MariaR, Nachomamma8, Nosferatu, Toogeloo

Desperado

(1): Ser Arthur Dayne

MariaR

(1): Desperado

Zachstralkita

(1): Andrius

Not Voting

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, SlySly, Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Firebringer V/LA until Tuesday.

In post 4870, Errantparabola wrote:

Votecount 2.7

Sometimes I wear clothes of indeterminate gender for the laundrogynous look.

Nachomamma8

(4): Firebringer, gerryoat, Pine, McMenno

SlySly

(4): Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu

Pine

(2): Nachomamma8, MariaR

Zachstralkita

(2): Andrius, SlySly

Desperado

(1): drealmerz7

gerryoat

(1): Desperado

Not Voting

(1): Tammy

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

In post 5043, Errantparabola wrote:

Votecount 2.8

I've finally located a place of wifi! Beep beep!
Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Nachomamma8

(5): Firebringer, Pine, McMenno, gerryoat, Tammy

SlySly

(5): Zachstralkita, Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne

Zachstralkita

(3): Andrius, SlySly, Desperado

Andrius

(1): MariaR

Pine

(1): Nachomamma8

Not Voting

(0):

15 players, 8 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-17 19:57:00)

Prodding Nachomamma8.

dont really do VCA but i think these are telling

In post 5907, drealmerz7 wrote:

In post 5905, Andrius wrote:Ok.
I EFFORTED and went into your ISO and apparently you said Nacho's name less times than there were dwarves in The Hobbit.

pedit: No, I'm not. I'm trying to remember this slog of a game and apparently I remember you doing more than you actually did. Because all I remember of you D2 was:
1) voting Sly
2) hitting the bong
3) defending Zach
4) arms-length interactions with nachoscum

And apparently you didn't really interact with Nacho.
So there goes that.

heyyy, great! reality instead of contrivance!! wowowwww!!!

In post 5909, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Yeah the reason I feel weird from dreamz's POV interaction with nacho is that in the recent finished Fate game (mystic mafia) dreamz was ALL ON TOP of Nacho (they were both town), while here he has been largerly ignoring him, which is extremely weird.

Arms-length interaction.
The only time I remember seeing him talk to Nacho in his ISO was drealmer defending Zach from Nacho's YOUR NOT ALIVE UNLESS IT PERTAINS TO YOU.

In post 5909, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Yeah the reason I feel weird from dreamz's POV interaction with nacho is that in the recent finished Fate game (mystic mafia) dreamz was ALL ON TOP of Nacho (they were both town), while here he has been largerly ignoring him, which is extremely weird.

and I keep repeating myself

each game is a different beast, if you're going to try and compare what I did somewhere else to what I'm doing in a current situation, all you're going to do is detrimental to town, if you're town, you shoudl care about that and stop, if you're scum, keep it up and keep exposing yourself

compare what you're seeing in "arms length interaction" with Nacho to how I was with everyone else on D2, and tell me the differences and why you think what you think is true in light of those "differences" if there are any

In post 5914, drealmerz7 wrote:each game is a different beast, if you're going to try and compare what I did somewhere else to what I'm doing in a current situation, all you're going to do is detrimental to town, if you're town, you shoudl care about that and stop, if you're scum, keep it up and keep exposing yourself

Are you one of the 'meta is garbage' people?
Because this sounds like meta is garbage.

Like, this game you remind me of what Nacho said about Zach.
There's no life in anything you do unless it involves yourself.
Sure, you're here. You're on the bong and talking about lynching some people.
But there's no fire in anything you do unless you're defending yourself from the big ol meanies [Pine, Andy, Sly, Desp].

"meta is garbage" is wayyyy too simplistic - obviously people have meta and obviously it is a point of analysis, when people say "meta is garbage" they don't realize the deeper intricacies of what meta means - it doesn't necessarily mean AI, and it doesn't mean it's an immalleable thing that can only be interpreted one way

I don't have much meta, a couple things are consistent for me, but they're NAI, my point in my comment is to inform townies of this so they don't make poor analysis when trying to read me - it's not me saying "meta is shit" it's me saying "don't base your analysis on meta because it's going to get you into trouble and not be helpful"

my meta:

I get frustrated easily when faced with what I deem to be illogical arguments (totally NAI)

I make a lot of super-long posts with lots of thoughts, sometimes getting circular and fuzzy (again, totally NAI) - I'm sure most of you don't even recognize this as part of my meta because I've been not playing this way much because I haven't had the energy or focus - watch me get SR super-hardcore if whenever I go back to my default way of playing (pretty much only ever do WOTs up until the past few months)

So here's my thing.
I think you're scum because you're not at all interested in lynching me.
I'm a scumread of yours, as you've been saying since D1, but you're completely disinterested in voting me, getting a wagon on me going, interacting with other people to try and drum up a lynch mob to kill me.
I've been TRYING to interact with you and goad you into SOMETHING but you're completely unphased.
Which is a big reason why I think you're scum - you're not interested in killing me, you're only interested in calling me scum. Which makes me wonder WHY.

Like, I'm at the point where I believe if you had a GLADIATE action you wouldn't use it on me.
A Daykill, sure.
But you wouldn't risk yourself to lynch me which goes against everything I know about FEROCIOUS drealmers when he smells blood in the water.

You've also called Maria scum a few times and seem uninterested in lynching her either.

I've witnessed him do that in games he will say stuff like "yes that is a very good lynch" but his vote will just be somewhere else but he doesn't act like it fazes him

He did it last game and he was town ... I think when he says he doesn't care about the game he really means it

Then why does he care so much about getting lynched.

Seriously gerry + dreamz's attitude of "I don't give a fuck about the game lololol" "Oh holy you're gonna lynch me you're all fucking stupid how can people be this bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Yeah okay.

[quote="In post 5919, Andrius"]So here's my thing.
I think you're scum because you're not at all interested in lynching me./quote]
false

I'm totally interested in lynching you

you can't read my brainthoughts