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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:43 pm
by Stormcloud
I'm really sorry if I've messed up the game guys. I just want to know what is so bad about my thoughts and where my logic is wrong and what exactly I should be looking for. I know it's not a newbie game or anything but I'm not gonna learn much from "your opinions are bad".

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:43 pm
by Transcend
I'm an experienced mafia player and I'd love to help you

What is your definition of a town player and a mafia player? You answer those questions and I'll give mine. I don't think you're looking for the right things.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:43 pm
by KainTepes
storm,, its ok people disagree with people all the time too,, dont leave

besides,, TRANSCEND could be scum manipulating your emotions like the handsome devil he is,, you never know?????

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:43 pm
by KainTepes
but yeah let's learn,, i want to learn too

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:46 pm
by Transcend
Actually idk if i should offer advice

I'm competent to where i get one scum each game, but i end up town reading at least one scum each game. Which could be the case now, but i don't wanna consider that til lylo.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:48 pm
by KainTepes
IMO storm's analysis of SRYR isn't "WRONG",, she found a possible way for SYRY to act like this and still be town,, i just think its less likely than the scum motivation

there's always a town explanation for something,, finding scum is about balancing between their likelihodds

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:48 pm
by Stormcloud
Transcend I'm gonna be extremely honest - you're my strongest scumread. You never actually left that position, but I wanted to see what would happen if I took the pressure off.
UNVOTE:

I don't know what to think right now. I feel like everything I have is just gut.

I think I assume all town players will post and look and think like me and that's just not true because of different playstyles.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:48 pm
by Stormcloud
Kain that's very helpful, thanks

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:49 pm
by Transcend
That's a bad way to play

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:50 pm
by Stormcloud
Yes I agree, but I'm not sure how to break that habit and account for playstyles as I read

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:52 pm
by Transcend
Well

Your vote is likely gonna decide the lynch

I'm telling you I'm town and i think you're blind to a lot of things

But in the end i have no control only influence on your vote.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:55 pm
by Transcend
Like it would own if a syr lynch happened with 0 masons on it happened, but that's not gonna happen.

Since I'm towntelling now, you leading on me will likely attract at least one scum vote on my lynch.

Anyways i still think you're dead wrong about syr being town and i implore you to trust me here, but 'tevs.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:56 pm
by Stormcloud
That influence is a lot stronger than you think is it, I think.
What am I blind to?
Nothing you or anyone has said about Syry has really convinced me, and I think I have been trying to keep an open mind about him.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:58 pm
by Stormcloud
Transcend I want to trust you really badly but I think all of this is well within your scum range. I think you're a crazy good player and I think all that inability to defend was calculated faking to get me to back off.
Maybe my hat has a bit too much tin foil though.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:58 pm
by Parama
my scumread on transcend weakened because the stuff after i called out transcend faking like he was hammered felt like genuine frustration
it could be scum frustration sure but it gave me townvibes

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:00 pm
by Transcend
Ok the factor i look for when scum hunting is genuinity

His voting patterns are a giant wtf that indicate a non genuine thought process. His words say one thing, his actions say another.

Pedit: this is definitely not against my scum range. You're correct.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:02 pm
by Transcend
Look when both masons vote you and a few people express intent to hammer put yourself in my shoes, wouldn't you feel defeated initially?

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:06 pm
by KainTepes
yeah judging by the past few pages i believe i am sticking to lynching between SYRY and PARAMA today. ONE is scum. for sure

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:10 pm
by Transcend
yeah judging by the past few pages i believe i am sticking to lynching between SYRY and SYRY today. ONE is scum. for sure

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:11 pm
by Stormcloud
I agree with KT. I think one is scum.

I just don't know which.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:16 pm
by Transcend
I agree with Transcend. I think one is scum.

I just don't know which.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:18 pm
by Stormcloud
Just reread Syry and yep, nothing there that bothers me. I'm not seeing weird voting patterns at all. He voted for you after you and implosion had your big exchange and someone asked for opinions.
I wish I could see what you're seeing here.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:21 pm
by Transcend
Same

Others do tho so it's chillin

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:24 pm
by Transcend
So should i order pizza

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:24 pm
by Transcend
It's so expensive but so good