Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:50 pm
Eventually you'll learn that being right isn't what matters and that finding common ground with people you care about is what matters. one day.
Can you not let someone play the victim who was part of the problem?In post 99, xRECKONERx wrote:can you stop actively being cocky to people who are leaving a community they love because of the toxicity?In post 97, BROseidon wrote:This is a far cry from saying "the meta sucks and Juno's near-win proves it"In post 87, hiplop wrote:Bro i dont want to play anymore because the meta of the site is rewarding play that is anti risk. Please dont attack me for not wanting to participate in a game i no longer find fun.
So, yeah.
it'd really help
"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."In post 104, BROseidon wrote:"Part of being a friend is being willing to call someone on their bullshit"
That's very fair, at the time of Spookz I was frustrated that no one cared about it to the point of active discussion that people constantly have about past Survivor games. I was bummed that no one was doing much, but I'm always a pessimist in the moment, and looking back on it I have so many more fond memories of that game than I do of any Survivor game. My complaints were with the "legacy" of the game rather than how much fun it was for me personally.In post 98, xRECKONERx wrote:That's fair, too.In post 96, CuddlyCaucasian wrote:I think my biggest problem is everyone taking everything so seriously to the point where it isn't fun at all to be involved in, and makes people feel like shit afterward. That's why I had such a good time with Spookz and RSX, cause no one gave a shit. Like hiplop said, people aren't leaving to send some message, people leave because it stopped being fun.
I've long been arguing for the "game is a game" mentality, but I see how that can be problematic too.
But I also think you're shining a dried turd in saying you loved Spookz because you didn't and you bitched on Skype to me about that, too. About how people weren't taking it seriously or trying and that bothered you.
On the one hand: if someone is being sorta emotional, that's part of the game we all play.
On the other hand: if someone is being too extra emotional and is being toxic, that saps the fun for everyone.
There is a middle ground that is hard to define.
I didn't think me jumping on the DAN IS SOOOO MEAN bandwagon would be bad because it helped my game to paint him that way.
After the fact? I see that Dan's perception in the game was a source of stress for you guys, and that makes me sad that I helped fuel that.
Not the same thing. I mean, im someone who literally plays utr games. Like every time but mundo. It's what i do.In post 106, Chevre wrote:I think it is a bit tricky though, because some people have always wanted to play that risk-averse game and do it well. To invalidate it cuts into a big portion of people who are playing that way and, I think, playing the game with a proper sense of laxness that allows it to be fun for them. I feel like I can have a lot more fun if I play UTRish, even if that's not going to net me the win, than to risk and to risk poorly and have the whole game come crashing down around you.
I mean I literally won last time playing the UTR risk averse game so like I get itIn post 106, Chevre wrote:I think it is a bit tricky though, because some people have always wanted to play that risk-averse game and do it well. To invalidate it cuts into a big portion of people who are playing that way and, I think, playing the game with a proper sense of laxness that allows it to be fun for them. I feel like I can have a lot more fun if I play UTRish, even if that's not going to net me the win, than to risk and to risk poorly and have the whole game come crashing down around you.
"Tanlines, no buffet lines" - Carson KreissleyIn post 112, Vijarada wrote:Oh no not the mythical line. I'd even rather talk about karass than discuss the line.
In post 114, Shadoweh wrote:Or in this case not taking a risk was not punished. The core of what was upsetting was that Juno openly decided not to flip, not to make a move, and still nearly won.
Maybe she was even right that doing that would have alienated Aria and Herm and given her no chance at all to win because they'd prefer being upset over the good move?
(I don't think Reck is like that but Aria certainly was.) That is I think the source of spec hatred seeing as most specs were risk taking leader types.
The cartoonish emotional exaggerations that turned the game into an I Hate Dan squad were really uncomfortable to watch.
ill keep quoting this until you read itIn post 64, xRECKONERx wrote:I think when a large swath of the community says "Hey this isn't just like disagreements this is a big deal" coming in and telling people they're overreacting is pretty fucking insensitive and not constructive at all? We just had the entire modteam of Neds quit the community after this. And the runner up. Let's stop being like "oh well I think I'm technically right so neener-neener" and instead of worrying about being right, start worrying about finding a solution that makes people feel more at ease.In post 62, Shadoweh wrote:Reck, you voted for Shaco. Don't you have some sort of idea why the least controversial/not risky/'nicest' person gets votes? It's certainly not because the jury cares less.
Besides, the winner of this game wasn't that type of player, and DBZA/Medevac happened. Y'all might be overreacting a bit.
(PSV and Eon are terrible examples of pagongs going out of style imo with Bluebell and Reinbow stronk )
Right that's it azmo was robbedIn post 115, CuddlyCaucasian wrote:"Tanlines, no buffet lines" - Carson KreissleyIn post 112, Vijarada wrote:Oh no not the mythical line. I'd even rather talk about karass than discuss the line.
In post 48, xRECKONERx wrote:also i really wanna gloat on ONE THING
okay that's itDan wrote:hermione wants to come 5th place, dear god. Why does she not understand this game.
If dick goes home here my last move was a very very big mistake. In the end dick going home here hurts hermione too, she just doesn't know it yet because everyone is smart enough to know to tell her what she wants to hear up and until they want to vote her out.
im overcompensating for my lack of security in myselfIn post 121, SummerInWonderland wrote:In post 48, xRECKONERx wrote:also i really wanna gloat on ONE THING
okay that's itDan wrote:hermione wants to come 5th place, dear god. Why does she not understand this game.
If dick goes home here my last move was a very very big mistake. In the end dick going home here hurts hermione too, she just doesn't know it yet because everyone is smart enough to know to tell her what she wants to hear up and until they want to vote her out.
reck you are the guy with the big obnoxious truck and I am just walking across the street minding my own business, you honk at me and say something jerkish and drive away with much angst.
its okay because we all know it just means you overcompensating for.... something