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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:45 am
by Börk Börk
I see those two day deadlines approaching for multiple people though. Prod dodging here we come.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:45 am
by JasonWazza
Vote Count 1.11

[2] Keyenpeydee: Börk Börk, Celtic,
[2] Indigo: Vijarada, Creature,
[1] Vijarada: Gamma Emerald,

Not voting: SnarkySnowman, keyenpeydee, Pepchoninga, Indigo,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline:(expired on 2017-01-20 16:41:09)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:47 am
by Börk Börk
In post 274, Creature wrote:Bah, I'll reveal what was my strategy:

We lynch the most unreadable players D1 and D2, so at LyLo we have players that we can read and go like "I'm pretty confident that guy is town, no paranoia" or "well, he's playing like he does as scum, so must be scum"
If we get a bit closer to the deadline and still don't have a proper wagon going then I'd be totally on board with this plan. Assuming enough other people are on board as well.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:50 am
by Creature
In your opinion, how would you rank each player from most readable (aka most likely you can determine whether town or scum) to most unreadable (harder to determine whether town or scum)?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:49 am
by Pepchoninga
In post 274, Creature wrote:Bah, I'll reveal what was my strategy:

We lynch the most unreadable players D1 and D2, so at LyLo we have players that we can read and go like "I'm pretty confident that guy is town, no paranoia" or "well, he's playing like he does as scum, so must be scum"
I'm not sure about this. Seems like you are just saying you are too lazy to actually scumhunt and you are just saying "let's just misslynch a bunch of people"

On what earth would a town prefer to get into a LyLo then hunt scum now?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:50 am
by Pepchoninga
In post 277, Börk Börk wrote:
In post 274, Creature wrote:Bah, I'll reveal what was my strategy:

We lynch the most unreadable players D1 and D2, so at LyLo we have players that we can read and go like "I'm pretty confident that guy is town, no paranoia" or "well, he's playing like he does as scum, so must be scum"
If we get a bit closer to the deadline and still don't have a proper wagon going then I'd be totally on board with this plan. Assuming enough other people are on board as well.
You agreeing with him isn't giving me good vibes.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:51 am
by Creature
If we lynch someone more readable that turns out to be scum, we'll still have to find scum between other less readable players.

But if we lynch someone hard to read, then we could have a LyLo with players that are more easy to read (aka more easier LyLo).

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:39 am
by SnarkySnowman
Vij and Bork both read town to me. I think keyen is an easy mislynch here, so I want to stray from that. I'd like to push Indigo but idk what the count is on him and I'm not up to hammering that yet.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:48 am
by Pepchoninga
In post 281, Creature wrote:If we lynch someone more readable that turns out to be scum, we'll still have to find scum between other less readable players.

But if we lynch someone hard to read, then we could have a LyLo with players that are more easy to read (aka more easier LyLo).
Whatever you say I don't like the way you think. Also didn't you say that we should start lynching scum from now? Or is my mind flipping on me.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:52 am
by Creature
I most likely mean't "it's fine if we lynch scum now".

Maybe while we go for less readable players we might find one scum.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:53 am
by Pepchoninga
In post 284, Creature wrote:I most likely mean't "it's fine if we lynch scum now".

Maybe while we go for less readable players we might find one scum.
I don't belive that scum would be one of those unreadable players. Scum try to fit in with town. We should look for people who try too hard to be town. And for me one of those poeple are you.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:56 am
by Creature
I doubt scum are trying to be unreadable, my strategy says to lynch the most unreadable. Maybe we could lynch scum in it, maybe not (at least we wouldn't have to sort them if we ever get to 5p LyLo).

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:03 pm
by Pepchoninga
Well idk. I've expressed why I think your strategy is somewhat anti-town. I would like to get imput from others as well, tho for now my gut as well as my mind is totally against it. We should be actively collecting data from players and extracting into solid and valid cases and then discuss the best possible lynch for the day.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:08 pm
by Creature
So far no player looks really unreadable.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:09 pm
by Creature
I think your dilemma is scumhunt than townhunt. Though, mine is townhunt then PoE, "unreadable" players make it harder as I can't be confident enough to strong townread them.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:09 pm
by Pepchoninga
In post 288, Creature wrote:So far no player looks really unreadable.
Then your tactic is even more useless.

What do you think of me?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:10 pm
by Creature
Town

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:11 pm
by Pepchoninga
In post 289, Creature wrote:I think your dilemma is scumhunt than townhunt. Though, mine is townhunt then PoE, "unreadable" players make it harder as I can't be confident enough to strong townread them.
All that's good an all, but in the process of you "eliminating" "unreadable" player, you might get town in an unwinable situation.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:11 pm
by Creature
I'm sorta townreading everybody but Gamma, Indigo and maybe keyen. Even Snarky is now looking more town.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:13 pm
by Creature
It's like if your reads are like:
Player A - Yourself
Player B - Very readable player and pretty town
Player C - Also readable and town
Player D - Looking town though already shined as scum
Player E - Looking town but then you remember he fooled you as scum lot of times
Player F - Player you're null on
Player G - Player you're null on but you know you'll eventually sort him

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:14 pm
by Vijarada
In post 269, keyenpeydee wrote:I do not see any reason why Indigo is scum.
Tonally, her posts looked faked. Additionally, all her content is either repetition of other things, with no opinions added, or otherwise scummy (threatening to put me on her "scum list" for reading her as scum). She seems to be avoiding giving an opinion on things.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:15 pm
by Vijarada
In post 294, Creature wrote:It's like if your reads are like:
Player A - Yourself
Player B - Very readable player and pretty town
Player C - Also readable and town
Player D - Looking town though already shined as scum
Player E - Looking town but then you remember he fooled you as scum lot of times
Player F - Player you're null on
Player G - Player you're null on but you know you'll eventually sort him
Lynch the least townie players? This plan is certainly worthy of the several posts you have devoted to it /s

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:16 pm
by Creature
but then you look at Player E and wonders "shit is he fooling me again and Player G is actually just a town that can't post right now?"

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:19 pm
by Pepchoninga
In post 297, Creature wrote:but then you look at Player E and wonders "shit is he fooling me again and Player G is actually just a town that can't post right now?"
That where the holes in your theory start to crack.

In the end we do end up lynching our least townie player on Day 1.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:20 pm
by Vijarada
i hereby declare that this plan shall never be spoken of ever again. countersigned: everybody