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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:37 pm
by Aristophanes
In post 549, Azral wrote:No, I mean you're projecting your own interpretation onto Desp's posts to try to make sense of his read. But without Desp actually saying the words, that's all it is and quite likely to be wrong. Is he the type to recommend we just policy lynch all the active lurkers? I kind of doubt it.
Didn't I already comment on the fact that I could, in theory, be wrong?

If not, then I shall now.
I am signing off for the evening anyway, but I guess it would be wise to wait for Despo to weigh in.
I don't see how this can be interpreted in any other way though.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:53 pm
by McMenno
aristophanes I thought we were going to be active lurking this game get your shit together please

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:07 am
by lane0168
Narna.... Come out come out wherever you are

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:13 am
by Desperado
In post 549, Azral wrote:No, I mean you're projecting your own interpretation onto Desp's posts to try to make sense of his read. But without Desp actually saying the words, that's all it is and quite likely to be wrong. Is he the type to recommend we just policy lynch all the active lurkers? I kind of doubt it.
Is that what I'm doing tho?

Cuz...I'm pretty sure it isn't.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:17 am
by Desperado
I'm pushing McMenno and not Frank or Snarky because McMenno is lurking AND he's doing it in a scummy way AND he isn't trying to solve the game AND all of the key players thus far look town to me so my working theory is that scum saw the dreal vs kain > dreal vs lane > dreal vs davsto (is anyone seeing a pattern here???? dreal isn't scum) battles and said "hahahaha NOP"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:43 am
by drealmerz7
WHAT MAKES IT A 'SCUMMY WAY' ??? WHAT ARE THE QUALITIES OF THAT?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:59 am
by Desperado
Dreal I'm sorry man, I've said it three or four times. I can't say it any other way. If 554 doesn't explain it then just move on and tilt someone else's windmill.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:05 am
by Aristophanes
In post 556, Desperado wrote:tilt someone else's windmill.
Dafuq does this mean!?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:06 am
by Desperado
Don Quixote, tilting at windmills

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:08 am
by drealmerz7
ok but I'm still not seeing what you're seeing and that is all I'm trying to do

and I can't get on board with your case if I can't see it very well

sorry

I see your words, but, I can't see your view from them

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:13 am
by Desperado
OK, so if not McMenno and not lane, then who?

Azral?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:16 am
by drealmerz7
I think lane could be scum
and davsto kind of disappeared after the lack of success on the push on me

strikes me as likely scum who thought they'd get an easy wagon through (it happens to me often that scum try this because of qualities I display, they think I'm easier MLbait than I am) and now they're just waiting for the next one

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:19 am
by Desperado
no

They're both town. Who else?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:50 am
by Azral
Snarky is probably scum.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:57 am
by Desperado
I could vote Snarky. He only has 6 posts and and are two of the worst posts in the whole game.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:19 am
by Davsto
In post 535, ɀefiend wrote:No, actually You, Narna, Desperado, Aristophanes, Davsto, and Lane have replied to my posts or mentioned me in passing.

I think it's drealmerz who should iso ME and try to engage.
Totes malotes dawg
In post 526, drealmerz7 wrote:"he's scummy because he's active lurking and that's scummy" - that is not anything
Isn't it? Do you want a 1500 word essay with cited sources? Or is it not enough for you to say that a player posting lots to look like he's doing something without actually contributing is an inherently scummy behaviour? Or maybe you're just objecting for the sake of objection.
In post 551, McMenno wrote:aristophanes I thought we were going to be active lurking this game get your shit together please
wow what a great way to disprove their accusations

Get yourself together and start doing something.
In post 561, drealmerz7 wrote:and davsto kind of disappeared after the lack of success on the push on me
was very tired and had a 1500 word essay with cited sources to do sry but I did ask for people to direct questions at me! Just, you know, noone did :c

Not gonna vote Snarky. I think he's scummy, but players like Menno and Dreal have actually done things and so are more useful for associations and whatever - a day one lynch shouldn't be wasted on a habitual lurker.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:23 am
by drealmerz7
In post 562, Desperado wrote:no

They're both town. Who else?
that doesn't convince me, you realize

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:16 am
by Desperado
It's meant more as a signal that we aren't going to lynch either one today so who can we agree on.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:34 am
by McMenno
In post 565, Davsto wrote:wow what a great way to disprove their accusations

Get yourself together and start doing something.
im votin' you friend

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:38 am
by Davsto
Oh wow, an entire vote? Man, that completely erases any concerns about you not doing anything, crikey! And your entire reasoning, calling it a christmas miracle and nothing else, the true hallmark of someone contributing thoroughly to the game!

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:39 am
by Azral
In post 568, McMenno wrote:
In post 565, Davsto wrote:wow what a great way to disprove their accusations

Get yourself together and start doing something.
im votin' you friend
Top 3 scum reads right now?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:43 am
by SnarkySnowman
I lowkey forgot about this game. I'll post some reads / hot takes sometime tonight.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:38 pm
by Narna
I broke my phone. I just got a new one, so I should be able to catch up slowly tonight. I'm kind of busy.
In post 383, ɀefiend wrote:I read everything that happened, and here's my takeaway. Long-ish post ahead. TL;DR to follow.

lane and Davsto are very logical players. I don't have game experience with lane but from the way he posts it's obvious. I do agree that with Narna that lane asks some
very
leading questions at times, but I don't find this AI in and of itself. As for Davsto, I do have some game experience and I also read the entire Donald Trump thread in GD. The two of them are clashing heavily with drealmerz because he's a very emotional player. Technically I don't have game "experience" with him but you don't even need that to conclude that drealmerz is an AtE type-of-guy. I think drealmerz position about not answering is defensible when you consider that KainTepes himself reflects on drealmerz' perspective. (Side note: I think KainTepes is Town. Even if (s)he's not, (s)he's locked himself into a softclaim revolving around the questionnaire. That should be easy to expose later on in the game.) However, I dislike drealmerz' style of dealing with pressure if he is indeed Town. He doesn't even attempt to answer some basic questions and also relies on WIFOM defenses which I absolutely detest. Enough about drealmerz, though. Of all the votes on him, I actually think Aristophanes' is the most suspicious, so
IGMEOY
.

My top scum-read is actually Desperado. He earned my pseudo-placeholder vote for this post:
In post 263, Desperado wrote:
In post 261, Narna wrote:Is Lane town?
Could be ya.
Find scum intent in mcmeemo posting.
Faking the PR; no meaningful response to his wagon; no thoughts on dreal responding to his wagon for him.
My thoughts concern the second part Re: McMenno. Note that Narna's request was for Desperado to point out things about McMenno's posts that had scum motivation. However, two out of the three reasons Desperado gives imply that a
lack
of specific posting from McMenno is scummy. (The PR thing is up in the air, since we are talking about "McMeme-o" after all. I'm not going to digress to argue the strength of this reason.) McMenno didn't have a meaningful response to his wagon, but neither did Davsto, and Davsto's was bigger. The last reason is misapplied to the actual situation, so I cannot discern whether it is bogus scum reasoning or an honest mistake. However, I can explain the misapplication. Drealmerz wasn't responding to the McMenno wagon
per se
, he was responding to Lane questioning him about his
own
concern for the wagon.
I like this, a lot. I could compromise on Desperado if Lane is a no go. You kind of skirt around your Lane read here, is he off the table for you this phase?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:37 pm
by Aristophanes
In post 551, McMenno wrote:aristophanes I thought we were going to be active lurking this game get your shit together please
:lol: :lol:

You kill me sometimes XD

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:23 pm
by xyzzy
the town ponders the use of minimalism as a narrative device in flavor text.


votecount 1.093 players voting for drealmerz7 (Davsto, Aristophanes, lane0168)
2 players voting for lane0168 (Narna, FrankJaeger)
2 players voting for Davsto (McMenno, SnarkySnowman)
1 player voting for McMenno (Desperado)
1 player voting for ɀefiend (Azral)
1 player voting for Azral (KainTepes)
1 player voting for Aristophanes (ɀefiend)
1 player voting for Desperado (drealmerz7)

1 player not voting (Gamma Emerald)

with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

the day will end in (expired on 2017-01-23 18:00:00)


mod notes: Gamma Emerald is V/LA until January 17. FrankJaeger has been prodded.