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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:01 am
by Titus
In post 2573, Wraith wrote:
In post 2572, Titus wrote:Slick is an existing candidate.

The Real Gin and Tonic is nit. He's a provable PR claim.
I mean if most of the players agree this is the path we want to take then I'm fine lynching someone else today (I
wonder who
?). Thing this fakeclaim by Gin seems incredibly obvious to me and I don't want to let it slide based on just a couple of people who buy into it.
Then the evidence will fail to come in day 2. If there's no additional corpse, we get information about the roles scum have. Plus, we force scum to block the vig.

If Gin is scum, then, we still have the data from the push and no extra kill will appear since scum vigs are blacklisted in normals.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:37 am
by texcat
In post 2575, Titus wrote:
In post 2573, Wraith wrote:
In post 2572, Titus wrote:Slick is an existing candidate.

The Real Gin and Tonic is nit. He's a provable PR claim.
I mean if most of the players agree this is the path we want to take then I'm fine lynching someone else today (I
wonder who
?). Thing this fakeclaim by Gin seems incredibly obvious to me and I don't want to let it slide based on just a couple of people who buy into it.
Then the evidence will fail to come in day 2. If there's no additional corpse, we get information about the roles scum have. Plus, we force scum to block the vig.

If Gin is scum, then, we still have the data from the push and no extra kill will appear since scum vigs are blacklisted in normals.
Gin's role is not provable. You have to assume that this is single-ball, that there is no SK, that there isn't a vig that isn't counter-claiming, that there isn't a vig that isn't a x-shot. No matter how many kills there are overnight, it won't prove Gin's role.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:49 am
by Wraith
In post 2576, texcat wrote:
In post 2575, Titus wrote:
In post 2573, Wraith wrote:
In post 2572, Titus wrote:Slick is an existing candidate.

The Real Gin and Tonic is nit. He's a provable PR claim.
I mean if most of the players agree this is the path we want to take then I'm fine lynching someone else today (I
wonder who
?). Thing this fakeclaim by Gin seems incredibly obvious to me and I don't want to let it slide based on just a couple of people who buy into it.
Then the evidence will fail to come in day 2. If there's no additional corpse, we get information about the roles scum have. Plus, we force scum to block the vig.

If Gin is scum, then, we still have the data from the push and no extra kill will appear since scum vigs are blacklisted in normals.
Gin's role is not provable. You have to assume that this is single-ball, that there is no SK, that there isn't a vig that isn't counter-claiming, that there isn't a vig that isn't a x-shot. No matter how many kills there are overnight, it won't prove Gin's role.
IIRC it is because Vigs in Normal games must have a kill flavor distinguishable from other factions.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:51 am
by Wraith
But at the same time it would be easy for Gin to claim "Roleblocked!" when his kill inevitably fails to go through.

With that in mind I think we lynch scum here and now. Letting him live another day just gives him a free pass for a claim that will never be definitively settled.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:51 am
by Titus
In post 2576, texcat wrote:
In post 2575, Titus wrote:
In post 2573, Wraith wrote:
In post 2572, Titus wrote:Slick is an existing candidate.

The Real Gin and Tonic is nit. He's a provable PR claim.
I mean if most of the players agree this is the path we want to take then I'm fine lynching someone else today (I
wonder who
?). Thing this fakeclaim by Gin seems incredibly obvious to me and I don't want to let it slide based on just a couple of people who buy into it.
Then the evidence will fail to come in day 2. If there's no additional corpse, we get information about the roles scum have. Plus, we force scum to block the vig.

If Gin is scum, then, we still have the data from the push and no extra kill will appear since scum vigs are blacklisted in normals.
Gin's role is not provable. You have to assume that this is single-ball, that there is no SK, that there isn't a vig that isn't counter-claiming, that there isn't a vig that isn't a x-shot. No matter how many kills there are overnight, it won't prove Gin's role.
No vig counterclaims. They shoot Gin.
Correct on assuming no multiball but not really. His claim gets thrown right back into suspect status if the mod flips a mafia and there are not 3 bodies (as factions must be distinguished). So assuming decent modding, Gin cannot hide there either.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:52 am
by Titus
In post 2578, Wraith wrote:But at the same time it would be easy for Gin to claim "Roleblocked!" when his kill inevitably fails to go through.

With that in mind I think we lynch scum here and now. Letting him live another day just gives him a free pass for a claim that will never be definitively settled.
Then we lynch him day 2, after he claims who he tried to shoot. We'll have his green flip with information about scum.

Of course, Gin is onviously town so...

Why won't you lynch SD?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:54 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Cop invests me to find a town aligned result

However I'm highly suspect that I'll be the one to die tonight because scum won't dare keep a Vig alive

I request the doc stays on the town confirmed and if we have a cop, it's obviously on me.

P-Edit: Why are there going to be 3 bodies?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:55 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Town confirmed as in RB

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:56 am
by Alisae
In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8715293#p8715293]post 2574[/url], TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 2572, Titus wrote:Slick is an existing candidate.

The Real Gin and Tonic is nit. He's a provable PR claim.
Titus is town as fuck.

P-Edit: Rainbowdash Mini 1862 claims Miller and votes claimed cop, a PR role. Guess what, Rainbowdash equated to scum.

I'm content with the content I got from yalls opinions and boy do I have a lot to say.
For some reason scum want the both of us lynched

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Alisae, thoughts on what I said about a repeat Rainbowdash?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 am
by Wraith
In post 2580, Titus wrote:
In post 2578, Wraith wrote:But at the same time it would be easy for Gin to claim "Roleblocked!" when his kill inevitably fails to go through.

With that in mind I think we lynch scum here and now. Letting him live another day just gives him a free pass for a claim that will never be definitively settled.
Then we lynch him day 2, after he claims who he tried to shoot. We'll have his green flip with information about scum.

Of course, Gin is onviously town so...

Why won't you lynch SD?
Gin is obviously town to you. Gin is obviously scum to me.

And I've already expressed a ready willingness to lynch SD today, in case you missed it. I just prioritize Gin and Alisae more highly at the moment.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:58 am
by Alisae
I wonder why that is Gin.
pedit: This situation moreso reminds me of something else that happened in an ongoing game so no comment.
Rainbow Dash was trying to plant doubt and paranoia in the town that game.
I don't really think that is the case here.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:59 am
by Titus
In post 2585, Wraith wrote:
In post 2580, Titus wrote:
In post 2578, Wraith wrote:But at the same time it would be easy for Gin to claim "Roleblocked!" when his kill inevitably fails to go through.

With that in mind I think we lynch scum here and now. Letting him live another day just gives him a free pass for a claim that will never be definitively settled.
Then we lynch him day 2, after he claims who he tried to shoot. We'll have his green flip with information about scum.

Of course, Gin is onviously town so...

Why won't you lynch SD?
Gin is obviously town to you. Gin is obviously scum to me.

And I've already expressed a ready willingness to lynch SD today, in case you missed it. I just prioritize Gin and Alisae more highly at the moment.
And you prioritize denying town information due to faulty setup spec, and apparently prioritize pissing me off.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:22 am
by All Alone
In post 2431, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm not going to talk after this point because who I shoot is based on what ya'll come up with (with my authority being supreme but hey gotta satiate that ego).

The two questions in case you forget are:

Shooting Pool: All Alone, Zach, Slick, Echo, Debi, and Texcat

Question 1: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the most?

Question 2: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the least?
fuck Zach, marry Debi, kill AA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:25 am
by All Alone
In post 2574, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 2572, Titus wrote:Slick is an existing candidate.

The Real Gin and Tonic is nit. He's a provable PR claim.
Titus is town as fuck.

P-Edit: Rainbowdash Mini 1862 claims Miller and votes claimed cop, a PR role. Guess what, Rainbowdash equated to scum.

I'm content with the content I got from yalls opinions and boy do I have a lot to say.
Okay, I want to hear what you have to say about this suspicious character who tried to end D1 with the lynch of a claimed PR role:
In post 2275, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Remember, the those 3 pushers of my lynch, also Echo. Let's end Day 1 please.

VOTE: Gin
Is that guy scum? I think he must be scum if he wants the guy who claimed vig dead.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:27 am
by Titus
Dude, you people are being so dumb that the only slots you'll agree to lynch are obvious town. This is the largest d1 on record.

Vote SD or state why he is town.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:27 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
If you think I didn't know I wasn't at L-1 you're a joke.

I will never self-hammer, doesn't mean I can't vote myself.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:29 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Scared the piss out of HS and when I get to a computer to make my post laying out my thoughts, it'll come to fruition why I do what I do

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:37 am
by TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Also lynch anything with fire who dares lolhammers me before I can make my post

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:44 am
by Titus
SD Echo and Ircher all likely scum.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:59 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Agreed on ircher but it's just a hunch

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:04 am
by Debi
In post 2421, Alisae wrote:Gin I've said this multiple times, Texcat.
In post 2431, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm not going to talk after this point because who I shoot is based on what ya'll come up with (with my authority being supreme but hey gotta satiate that ego).

The two questions in case you forget are:

Shooting Pool: All Alone, Zach, Slick, Echo, Debi, and Texcat

Question 1: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the most?

Question 2: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the least?
1. Echo, Debi
2. Zach, Tex
In post 2530, Pine wrote:
In post 2528, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 2431, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm not going to talk after this point because who I shoot is based on what ya'll come up with (with my authority being supreme but hey gotta satiate that ego).

The two questions in case you forget are:

Shooting Pool: All Alone, Zach, Slick, Echo, Debi, and Texcat

Question 1: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the most?

Question 2: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the least?
Q1: Debi can go.
Q2: I am increasingly feeling like Slick is an attempt at an easy mislynch. There was a really easy flashwagon on him earlier, and now he's a lazy compromise lynch? Yeah, that sounds like bait.
Anybody who thinks that I should be shot or lynched currently, I'd like to here your reasoning. I understand that my plays haven't been of good standard as of recently, but I will try to explain myself in all of them. Also I'm aware that if you want me to be out of this game, you likely think I am Scum, I won't do what some people do, and say 'Oh, well I am obviously town!' and then expect people to think I am town. Just claiming town, is stupid, you can't provide any evidence for it that way, the only way you can make people think your town is if people think your play style is town based. You can all make your own judgements of my role due to the explanations I'll give, if I get lynched, then that is just the way the cookie crumbles, and I'll deal with it after it happens. If I don't get lynched, it will be the way that the cookie crumbles, and we'll see what happens from there on. Therefore I encourage anybody with questions or queries about me and my plays, to speak up, and to let me answer them.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:07 am
by Alisae
Debi are you sure you quoted the right post when you mentioned mine.
I don't remember saying that I wanted Texcat not shot.
If anything I don't want you shot.

Also Debi what are your reads?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:26 am
by Debi
Anybody who I won't list I'm either uncertain about, or haven't developed a complete opinion of as of yet.

I'll start of with Scum:
At the moment, I think that;
Drealmer, Gin and Alisae are all Scum. I have lighter Scum reads on Zach and rb.
The reasonings for rb, Gin and Drealmer are the same as before, if you want me to quote them, just ask, as the reasoning hasn't changed much.
For Alisae, its mainly due to the fact that he wants to start a random wagon on Slick, without giving us a reason. It seems really random and pointless. I think that people would have agreed with him, if it wasn't for pine.

For Zach its due to this quotation:
'You acting pissed off is a style? Cause I think you're kinda pissed off'
Ever since I read this, I feel as if he was trying to provoke a reaction by pressuring people unnecessarily rudely, by used profanity for 0 reason. I just get the impression that using things like profanity for a reaction is Scum-like.

Town reads:
The major town reads at the moment are:
Human, Ircher, Wraith and Lil Uzi.
The reason why I think Human is Town, is largely due to the fact that his opinions align with mine as to what Scum act like, and what Town act like. This is the same reasoning for Ircher. As for Wraith, I think he is Town, as he has timed his pressurising for good times, in order to get the most out of them, I also think he has progressed the game significantly so far. As for Lil Uzi, I'm not too sure why I think he is town, he just really gives the impression that he is town. I'm sorry if the explanations for these are insufficient, its harder to explain Town than Scum.

Neutrals:
Pine, Ssbm and Grey.



PS:
Alisae, its likely I did mess up the quotation, its awkward to use the quotations here.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:28 am
by Alisae
Debi plz.
rb is confirmed town and Gin claimed vig.
and Grey got replaced.
Just re-read the game when you get a chance.

And I'm not trying to start a slick wagon anymore, Titus is -_-