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In post 492, Alisae wrote:Kop - Town
Genuinely evaluating game

Enlight me. I must be missing big time.

In post 500, Realeo wrote:

In post 492, Alisae wrote:Kop - Town
Genuinely evaluating game

Enlight me. I must be missing big time.

State your reasons because that's twice now that you have said something regarding myself, and twice you've not even bothered to state any reason why, or even engage with me.

Here are my reads so far:

- Confirmed town. I so wish he would contribute to the game and be more active. There's no way I'd be TRing him if he wasn't the IC.

- Strong town lean. I like his analysis so far and he seems to be making a genuine attempt to scum hunt and solve the game.

- Null lean.

- Null town.

Kop - Null

Gamma - Null

Superhans - Null

- Null scum. I really don't like how he buddied up to Antihuman. His defense screamed that he was buddying him.

- Scum lean. I don't like how he constantly asks "why" and asks people to keep explaining things that they already have. He asks those types of questions in a scummy way.

- I really don't like how he has been throwing shades everywhere. His case against me was very bad and felt contrived. I also really don't like how he tried to derail the Gamma wagon. If gamma flips scum, I'm fairly confident he is scum as well.

I think that's everyone. Let me know if I missed someone.

In post 502, ThinkBig wrote:Here are my reads so far:

Algebra

- Confirmed town. I so wish he would contribute to the game and be more active. There's no way I'd be TRing him if he wasn't the IC.

Alisae

- Strong town lean. I like his analysis so far and he seems to be making a genuine attempt to scum hunt and solve the game.

ssbm_Kyouko

- Null lean.

Davesaz

- Null town.

Kop - Null

Gamma - Null

Superhans - Null

Dunnestral

- Null scum. I really don't like how he buddied up to Antihuman. His defense screamed that he was buddying him.

Realeao

- Scum lean. I don't like how he constantly asks "why" and asks people to keep explaining things that they already have. He asks those types of questions in a scummy way.

Antihuman

- I really don't like how he has been throwing shades everywhere. His case against me was very bad and felt contrived. I also really don't like how he tried to derail the Gamma wagon. If gamma flips scum, I'm fairly confident he is scum as well.

I think that's everyone. Let me know if I missed someone.

EBWOP.

I also think I mistook desperado/dunnestral. I also have a SL on desperado.

In post 501, Kop wrote:

In post 500, Realeo wrote:

In post 492, Alisae wrote:Kop - Town
Genuinely evaluating game

Enlight me. I must be missing big time.

State your reasons because that's twice now that you have said something regarding myself, and twice you've not even bothered to state any reason why, or even engage with me.

I have only seriously analyzed up to page 11. When I put the voting /scumread pattern into excel table, I see a jump logic on yours.

I am not with my Excel right now, but the only conclusion I remember was (1)Nothing was scummy with Gamma Emerald wagon (2) I was confused by you.

I then get struck by New Year Laziness.

Alisae, algebra is literally confirmed town, he's innocent child

In post 505, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Alisae, algebra is literally confirmed town, he's innocent child

I think he was clearly joking.

Don't worry, I didn't catch the sarcasm the first read either.

I'll get to you guys with a reads list now that holiday season is calming down.

Yeah I was joking

In post 502, ThinkBig wrote:Desperado - Null scum. I really don't like how he buddied up to Antihuman. His defense screamed that he was buddying him.

Um....

I'm voting Antihuman?

In post 509, Desperado wrote:

In post 502, ThinkBig wrote:Desperado - Null scum. I really don't like how he buddied up to Antihuman. His defense screamed that he was buddying him.

Um....

I'm voting Antihuman?

See the edit post. I meant dunnestral but put you by mistake.

Ya but then you didn't explain the SL on me either, so I'm questioning the authenticity of your read. Why do you think I'm bussing Antihuman right now?

(Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)
(Dunnstral, Alisae)
(algebra)
(Realeo)
(davesaz)
(Antihuman)
(ThinkBig)

(Superhans, Kop)

In post 511, Desperado wrote:Ya but then you didn't explain the SL on me either, so I'm questioning the authenticity of your read. Why do you think I'm bussing Antihuman right now?

I never said you were bussing AH. I said that you two are scum reads for me.

7 wagons and two people not voting with 3 days left is a recipe for disaster. We need to start coalescing around competing wagons.

@ ThinkBig: Vote your biggest scumread.

@ Superhans and Kop: what are you guys even doing right now

@ Dave: I thought SAJ was town and while Alisae is definitely eroding that read with this traitor push she isn't getting lynched today. If not Antihuman, who?

@ Alisae: Vote your scumread. I'm not the traitor and this push doesn't make any sense when the Antihuman wagon exists.

@ Realeo: Your slapfight with Gamma has produced a lot of words and accomplished nothing. You've also gone out of your way to a) not give a read on Antihuman (the closest you've come is calling him awkward and explicitly noting that it's NAI) and b) spent a lot of energy tying him to ThinkBig. What is your read on Antihuman? Who are you willing to vote that can actually get lynched?

@ Dunnstral: What do you make of ThinkBig leaving the AH wagon to vote you despite a reads list that has Antihuman as his biggest scumread?

In post 513, ThinkBig wrote:I never said you were bussing AH. I said that you two are scum reads for me.

Antihuman is your only real scumread and I'm voting him. One necessarily follows from the other.

@Desperado: AH was and still is my biggest SR. the reason I switched my vote was to provide pressure for dunnestral. He hasn't really been contributing and buddies in an anti-town kind of way. Thus my vote is for pressure. I'll certainly switch my vote back at a later time. This is simply my play style.

P-edit: Accusations and analysis of buddying and budding is best done after a flip. That is just my opinion. One doesn't necessarily follow the other.

In post 514, Desperado wrote:@ Dunnstral: What do you make of ThinkBig leaving the AH wagon to vote you despite a reads list that has Antihuman as his biggest scumread?

@TB why are you voting me instead of AH

In post 517, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 514, Desperado wrote:@ Dunnstral: What do you make of ThinkBig leaving the AH wagon to vote you despite a reads list that has Antihuman as his biggest scumread?

@TB why are you voting me instead of AH

As I explained above. You were buddying him in an anti-town way and anti-town feel. Do you still think AH is town? If so, why?

That doesn't explain why if you think ah is scummier than me, and he has more votes, you'd jump off to vote me by yourself

In post 519, Dunnstral wrote:That doesn't explain why if you think ah is scummier than me, and he has more votes, you'd jump off to vote me by yourself

A non answer to my question. I didn't say you were scummier than him. Indeed, as I said above, AH is still my biggest SR.

OK

So why aren't you voting AH who has 3 votes, and instead voting me who only has yours

What are you trying to do

In post 521, Dunnstral wrote:OK

So why aren't you voting AH who has 3 votes, and instead voting me who only has yours

What are you trying to do

I'm trying to get you to answer my questions which you still haven't done.

Voting ThinkBig mainly for being on, and creating the AntiHuman wagon.

In post 371, grapes wrote:
Antihuman ( 4 ) - (Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko) <The AntiHuman wagon. You've unvoted and placed vote on Dunnstral, but you're claiming that you're very much still ON this wagon, if you get what I mean.

VOTE: ThinkBig

Your case on AntiHuman smells opportunistic to me.
I disagree with AntiHuman's logic, but scum? Maybe, but I don't think your attack on him should be made with your level of confidence.

Also your vote on AH is him tunnelling? but he has gone after other players too? No? I don't buy the derail the Gamma wagon theory. THe gammagon was not really a wagon at all, just a response to his weird af playstyle.

@Realo
Give us a 'pitch' on why you want us to clamber aboard your Gamma Wagon, that is if you want us to get aboard your Gamma wagon.

In post 523, Superhans wrote:Voting ThinkBig mainly for being on, and creating the AntiHuman wagon.

In post 371, grapes wrote:
Antihuman ( 4 ) - (Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko) <The AntiHuman wagon. You've unvoted and placed vote on Dunnstral, but you're claiming that you're very much still ON this wagon, if you get what I mean.

No, I don't get what you mean. When did I claim I was still on his wagon after voting for dunnestral?

Your case on AntiHuman smells opportunistic to me.
I disagree with AntiHuman's logic, but scum? Maybe, but I don't think your attack on him should be made with your level of confidence.

Also your vote on AH is him tunnelling? but he has gone after other players too? No? I don't buy the derail the Gamma wagon theory. THe gammagon was not really a wagon at all, just a response to his weird af playstyle.

Why was my vote on AH tunneling? I initially voted for him because he initially attacked me in an opportunistic and scummy way by misrepresenting my posts and misrepresenting my position. He attacked me for being V/LA and he attacked me for my RQS questions. The only player that AH has openly and explicitly attacked was me.