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Townreading GE for wanting more of my Super tr. Shows an actual interest in trying to get town on the right track.

AH what's your opinion on Gamma's vote on Desperado, and Desperado's sudden swap from voting Gamma to you?

Desperado, you switched from voting Gamma to voting the player defending Gamma pretty abruptly, can you further explain both of those votes because right now it looks like you're getting onto easy wagons

VOTE: Desperado

My vote on Gamma was quite well explained. I didn't think he'd produced enough game related content and he was still RVSing on page ten.

I didn't like Antihuman's entrance into the thread for many of the same reasons Gamma pointed out.

Antihuman's slot was null and now it's leaning scum, while Gamma was leaning scum and is now leaning town, hence the vote switch.

And what exactly is "easy" about a one-man wagon being driven by the current lynch candidate?

Do you have any thoughts on Antihuman's entrance?

In post 329, Antihuman wrote:Dunnstral tr, I'd also tr Superhans and Realeo if they jumped off this pathetic Gamma wagon and followed me

With my meta at TB, he's being null. His logic is eccentric.

In post 350, algebra wrote:Townreading GE for wanting more of my Super tr. Shows an actual interest in trying to get town on the right track.

Oh dear, if you are a believer of this logic and I am a scum, you're so damned.

I can relate to the people who are getting town vibe from Gamma.

But I cannot relate to the people who are moving that extreme to the spectrum of "scum lean" -> "town lean"

Here's my problem with Gamma, after I saw him attacking Antihuman

1. When AH attack TB's RQS, GE said that he supports TB's RQS. If he does support TB's RQS, why GE doesn't support my TR at TB due to the RQS?

2. TB said that Dunn's reaction at l-6 -> l-5 is shitty. AH said TB's reaction is shitty. GE then said that AH is shitty in return because he agrees that Dunn's reaction is scummy.

In post 130, ThinkBig wrote:

In post 102, Dunnstral wrote:It's about intent. Get off of me. I'm not getting lynched. Vote Gamma.

In post 103, Dunnstral wrote:Next thing you know I'll be l-5 followed by l-4

I find these two posts to be an over reaction and I'm not liking post 103.

Bullshit

I actually agree that being that concerned with a wagon is cause for suspicion.

I find it hard to relate because Gamma did not classify it as "scummy", he classif it as "funny"

In post 253, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 103, Dunnstral wrote:Next thing you know I'll be l-5 followed by l-4

I find this post funny

In post 254, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 94, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want to trap people with a certain post, see if anyone tries to pull shit on me

Not as funny as this one was

In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:Remember MeowMix pushing me for being aloof about my lynch?
That's what I find funny: the situational irony. You have the exact opposite reaction as I did.

I mean, I agree that AH's case is "shitty".

But attacking a "shitty" case "shitty" case, is not a town tell. It can be used a reference for future TR, but standing alone, isolated, that's not a town tell.

I understand that town contradicts them self all the time, but if Gamma is town contradicting, please help me God to explain why it comes from town.

My current stand is that Antihuman is like Superhans, . Awkwardness is not explicitly a tell. =/

In post 345, Antihuman wrote:

In post 343, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 340, Antihuman wrote:@Gamma

1. RQS sucks because answers are easily manipulated and tailored to players
2. Dunn didn't look concerned with his 'wagon' at all. I wouldn't even call it a wagon
3. If it's TB's playstyle then he can easily incorporate it in his scumplay, especially that he's been encouraged by people being thankful. It's nai at best but I still don't like it
4. If I was going for a low hanging fruit, I would've just jumped on your wagon

Pedit this is a towny reaction. People should unvote gamma

1) Yeah, but only if the questions are leading. Questions like "are you mislynched a lot" are scummy, as they allow for scum to establish a town persona through their answers.
2) He was definitely concerned about the vote.
3) I'm not saying it's reason to townread him, I'm saying it's not reason to scumread him.
4) That's not exactly true. Jumping on my wagon would have been rather scummy.

But seeing as what I've done has been deemed scummy too, what does it tell you?

You went for the more obscure target and still got caught.

In post 358, Realeo wrote:Here's my problem with Gamma, after I saw him attacking Antihuman

1. When AH attack TB's RQS, GE said that he supports TB's RQS. If he does support TB's RQS, why GE doesn't support my TR at TB due to the RQS?

2. TB said that Dunn's reaction at l-6 -> l-5 is shitty. AH said TB's reaction is shitty. GE then said that AH is shitty in return because he agrees that Dunn's reaction is scummy.

In post 130, ThinkBig wrote:

In post 102, Dunnstral wrote:It's about intent. Get off of me. I'm not getting lynched. Vote Gamma.

In post 103, Dunnstral wrote:Next thing you know I'll be l-5 followed by l-4

I find these two posts to be an over reaction and I'm not liking post 103.

Bullshit

I actually agree that being that concerned with a wagon is cause for suspicion.

I find it hard to relate because Gamma did not classify it as "scummy", he classif it as "funny"

In post 253, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 103, Dunnstral wrote:Next thing you know I'll be l-5 followed by l-4

I find this post funny

In post 254, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 94, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want to trap people with a certain post, see if anyone tries to pull shit on me

Not as funny as this one was

In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:Remember MeowMix pushing me for being aloof about my lynch?
That's what I find funny: the situational irony. You have the exact opposite reaction as I did.

1) I didn't say the RQS was towny, I said it wasn't scummy.
2) The funniness came from a parallel scenario I experienced.

@Desperado - Yeah, looked like really bad reasoning to me which is why I'm asking him questions. Didn't see anything specific about Thinkbig that would have made AH pick him off the Gamma wagon which makes me think his motivation there was to derail the Gamma wagon, rather than to find scum on it. I guess your vote makes sense, and I was going to vote AH when I read his TB case and looked into the votes on Gamma, but then I saw you vote AH and that steadies my hand a bit because your vote was naked and had just swapped from the leading (but losing traction) Gamma wagon onto the rapidly growing AH wagon. Anyways, as I write this post I realize there's better reason to vote for him being scummy than there is to not vote him because his wagon is moving fast.

VOTE: Antihuman

@ssbm

U ask him questions but vote him before he's had a chance to respond...

Also who do u think is AHs scum buddy?

In post 361, Realeo wrote:My current stand is that Antihuman is like Superhans,

awkward

. Awkwardness is not explicitly a tell. =/

Y do u find me awkward? For AH I find his logic "awkward"(whatever that means), is my logic awkward or is it purely my whacky avatar.

Hold up - Ah is towny, what is this backlash?
I'll go into detail and break down what I see in the morning

In post 357, Realeo wrote:I can relate to the people who are getting town vibe from Gamma.

But I cannot relate to the people who are moving that extreme to the spectrum of "scum lean" -> "town lean"

Lean scum > lean town is "extreme" to you? And even if it were...why? He wasn't producing content unless someone gave him an opportunity to talk about a previous game. Now he's providing content and it aligns with my thoughts to boot.

In post 361, Realeo wrote:My current stand is that Antihuman is like Superhans,

awkward

. Awkwardness is not explicitly a tell. =/

We're reading Antihuman completely differently. I see confidence where it doesn't belong, not awkwardness. He's not engaging with the thread and his only other reads are dependent on being sheeped.

In post 356, Realeo wrote:Oh dear, if you are a believer of this logic and I am a scum, you're so damned.

'Cos you're really smart right?

(Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)
(Realeo, Kop)
(algebra, Secret Agent Jin)
(davesaz)
(Antihuman)

(Superhans, Dunnstral)

You don't have a single scum read, Kop?

Posted around 12:15.

In post 328, grapes wrote:

Antihuman replaces ReubenWasFine!

Posted around 2:19. (2 hours later)

In post 329, Antihuman wrote:Lol everybody who's sheeping the Gamma wagon "cause he posts fluff" should take a good fucking look at ThinkingBig

I think this looks like a player who arrived just after a VC and did catchup by iso of the players on the biggest wagon. The 2 hour gap shows that there was plenty of time to do that.
The catchup post has a lot more detail than I'd expect from scum trying to pick someone at random to push to derail a wagon on a buddy.
Not sure why y'all are reading it that way. I'm open to being convinced. Is there something wrong with the points in 329?