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Not once has Dunnestral given reads or explained why he reads people as town or scum.

you could at least try and not lie

Reg, you're fucking it up again. Dunnstral is town.

Why is dunnestral town?

lol

I see you don't want to lynch your scum buddy

good job, great effort

real hard hitting shit there thinkbig

In post 2277, Desperado wrote:Reg, you're fucking it up again. Dunnstral is town.

Pretty damn confident he's not; I'll elaborate into this when I get home tonight (Heading out in ~20 minutes) but there's been several things from him today (And tbh throughout the game) that points pretty heavily towards him being mafia, one of the larger ones being his read on TB. I can understand his initial town read and defence on TB given I was along the same thought process but the fact that his read on TB never progressed throughout the game is a big red flag. He's effectively ruled him out ignored new evidence and information that points towards TB potentially being scum and flat out not commented on him, to do that while also barely defending TB when there's a wagon forming on him today makes no sense as town.

I mean, it makes sense when you consider that he was the only one to defend TB before you replaced in, he has been consistently defending TB as town, and TB's play has been the same literally the entire game so it doesn't make any sense to be scumreading him now if he was townreading him before.

In post 2284, Desperado wrote:I mean, it makes sense when you consider that he was the only one to defend TB before you replaced in, he has been consistently defending TB as town, and TB's play has been the same literally the entire game so it doesn't make any sense to be scumreading him now if he was townreading him before.

Very untrue. Go back and take a look at his reasoning behind town reading TB, his reasoning is entirely based around AH's interactions and nothing to do with TB's play at all. It's fine to be of the belief that AHs play makes TB more likely to be town (I thought the same thing) but to use that as a basis to town read him alone and ignore TB's actual play does not make sense. The fact he's maintained this very stance on TB today while ignoring logic that has nothing to do with AH pointing towards TB being mafia (TB's way of dealing with SH, TB's activity elsewhere in comparison to here etc.) does not have a town thought process behind it.

sigh, whatever

you'll be doing it without my vote (again)

godspeed

I mean do me one favour; open up Dunstrals ISO and do two searches; "ThingBig" and "TB" and look at the progression throughout the game. He constantly states he has ThingBig as town and that he doesn't want to lynch him, then look at the reasoning that's attached to it; it's solely and 100% based around AH's push on TB and then stating "Scum are pushing TB", none of it at all has anything to do with TB's play. Him maintaining that read with information that doesn't relate to AH makes no sense, none. He doesn't comment on the other reasoning, he doesn't state other reasons he town reads TB, there's nothing.

PEdit: That's fine, I wasn't particularly expecting your vote anyway. Would have liked your support though.

Desperado, do a (relatively) old man a favor and remind me who you think is scum.
I know I can look it up myself and don't mind doing that if you insist, but it's been a long day for rl.

@Dave - His scum reads at the moment are ThingBig + SuperHans. I personally think Dunnstral is the way to go today.

Will say this though Nydus, if you're town which I think you are I'd appreciate you actually contributing a lot more than what you currently are, want to be able to leave behind a strong town read on you and at the moment your inactivity is weakening that read slightly.

And with that I'm out.

thanks reg

at least dusher's agreeableness with dunn has a trajectory.

even if thinkbig really does have a scumread on dunn, which i don't believe, i would still expect town-him to push back on his lynch given what he's said re: hans and I

btw ima leave these two quotes here:

In post 1466, ThinkBig wrote:Updated read list with explanations. I re-read the the game and a ISO'd several people to really make sure I didn't miss anything. Here's where I am.

Regfan

Gamma Emerald

Realeo

Dunnestral

Dave

Alisae

Kop

Superhans

Desperado

Spoiler: Key

Conftown

Town

LeanTown

NullTown

Null - {N}

NullScum

LeanScum

Scum

ConfScum

Spoiler: Gamma

I really wish Gamma would post more. However, from what I have seen, I am comfortable putting him in my town column. He claimed goon cop and no-one has yet to CC him. I do wish he would be more active.

I think Dunnestral is town. He comes across as genuinely trying to solve the game. I like how he is not quick to jump on easy wagons. However, his response to my wagon comes across as possible buddying. Gun to my head, I think this slot is town.

Spoiler: Alisae

This slot is still very null to me. Until we get a replacement and a claim, it will remain null.

Spoiler: Dave

Not entirely sure what to think of this slot. Gun to my head, I put him as more likely to be town than scum. I like 1424

Spoiler: Kop

Kop claimed roleblocker and claimed to have roleblocked ssbm. I am still very skeptical of his claim for the reasons I have mentioned and the reasons that regfan has mentioned. However, I do not believe he's the best lynch for the moment. Would scum!Kop have made such an obvious slip or claimed something that could obviously be pointed to as a scummy safe claim? I'm not entirely sold on the case against Kop, but I do wish he would come back and actually contribute to the game.

Just as a side note, during my V/LA and periods of low activity, even I was contributing more to the game than he was! .

Spoiler: Desperado/Superhans

I honestly think the best lynch today is either desperado or superhans. While I do not think they are scum together, I'm confident that there is at least one scum between them. Desperado's case against me was pretty much all shade throwing and trying to somehow connect me to antihuman (which I still do not understand).

Hans, on the other hand, took his arguments and sheeped it and cheerleaded his arguments. I find myself agreeing with Desperado that Hans sudden shift on me did not come from a town mindset. Yet the flip side of that, I really

really

do not like 1357.

In post 2275, ThinkBig wrote:Not once has Dunnestral given reads or explained why he reads people as town or scum.

Hello. I'm having a fever so not that active. Given Desperado post of ThinkBig readlist, I am no longer convinced to sheep Dunnstal.

Hope you feel better.

After having fever forces me to not paranoidly re-reading the game, I like how Dunnstal is flustered at Desperado about Dave. If he's town, why he need to backlash his townreader and potentially bite his townread?

Hold on a second, regfan.

Why are you scumreading Dunn and hard townreading nydus...when they are townreading ThinkBig...for the same reason?

In post 2293, ThinkBig wrote:Hope you feel better.

I see that you dodged every question and decided to just jump on Desperado.

How nice!

I am no longer convinced that SuperHans is town.

In post 2297, Realeo wrote:I am no longer convinced that SuperHans is town.

Here's why:

SuperHas voted ThinkBig and say Desperado defending Kop is genuine. In the process, he also explained who he townread.

Nydus is Alisae and I am the originator of "Alisae wouldn't call me out and push me as traitor as scum."
Realeo has been town the entire game. I haven't wavered on this.
Dunn has been town the entire game. I haven't wavered on this.
Dave is town for the same reason Alisae is.

SuperHans later said that he want townread and Desperado refused to so.

I find that

1. He explained his town read. So why SuperHans has to make fuss about top townread. The fuss of town read v top town read just makes no senses?

2. If SuperHans is triggered by Desperado refusing to answer, why he is not triggered by ThinkBig dodging question? Dunnstal has not been triggered, so that's fine. But I smell double standard from SuperHans.

I am pissed off that TB isn't answering questions....