Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:38 am
Side note: I might not read superhans' ISO and might just look at little snippets from people quoting him because and ISO of 350+ posts is like... wtf until I have more free time
Sometimes the only way to make someone see the truth is to slap them with a virtual fish.In post 1934, Superhans wrote:Then why did you you say you'd give Dunnstral the benefit of the doubt instead of power lynching when there was no way to lynch Dunnstral anyway?In post 1926, davesaz wrote:No case can be made, because there is no possible scum motivation in anything I've posted.In post 1896, Superhans wrote:Lol I can see scum motivation in this post. Threatening Dunnstral for making a case on you. Id like to see you to go ahead and tell meIn post 1889, davesaz wrote: [...]
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt instead of power lynching you. I suggest you use that opportunity to up your game.howyou'd power lynch Dunnstral.
I don't entertain hypotheticals like that. There are two scum left, I don't need 3 scum readsIn post 1910, Superhans wrote:So yeah, outside of me and Gb, who could be scum?
Serious? davesaz is confirmed town because???In post 1937, nydushermain wrote:Oh, I'd like to note I had realeo as town before the check so either way, I think he's good. I'm gonna keep him in the town circle for now but the fact that he's not cleared makes the game a tad bit more difficult. I thought I only had to find 2, in which case I could probably be pretty confident but having to find 3 might be a bit odd... that probably sounds a bit contradictory since I'm saying I had realeo as town anyways but I have a tendency to be wrong somewhere in my town circle when the number of unconfirmed in it become large. I can usually pick a small amount of pretty much guaranteed town and it ends up being right in most games I play.
Regfan, thoughts on realeo outside of the checks?
Also, I still think that TB is most likely town due to the day 1. If dave is indeed town, I have to decide whether or not the rest of the three have genuinely gone on eachother (which I haven't been paying much attention to). What I'm going to be doing is, instead of finding reasons as to why my town circle is correct (which I hope it is because that means I'm a boss), I'm going to change my strategy a little bit and ASSUME my town circle is correct. By doing so, I'll be looking within the 3 players left of desperado, superhans, and dunnstral. Within this, I'm going to set up the 3 worlds of:
Superhans + Desperado
Superhans + Dunnstral
Desperado + Dunnstral
as scum teams and see if I can eliminate any of the worlds. If I believe, with sufficient evidence, that the worlds can not exist, I'll stop pushing that my town circle is correct and then see where the scum can lie inside my town circle.
If people agree with my town circle for now (and by people I mean the people inside my town circle), I suggest you do the same because with 2 entire days of interactions, I think that there's more than likely sufficient associative reads to be had.
I tend toward ThinkBig, but I'm worried about it being too easy.In post 1952, Superhans wrote:Davesaz who'dya think is scum?
if i could undeniably prove that i were town, who would your 3rd scum read be?In post 1953, Desperado wrote:I don't entertain hypotheticals like that. There are two scum left, I don't need 3 scum readsIn post 1910, Superhans wrote:So yeah, outside of me and Gb, who could be scum?
He's not. I might have been quite unclear and I admit to that.In post 1954, Dunnstral wrote:Serious? davesaz is confirmed town because???In post 1937, nydushermain wrote:Oh, I'd like to note I had realeo as town before the check so either way, I think he's good. I'm gonna keep him in the town circle for now but the fact that he's not cleared makes the game a tad bit more difficult. I thought I only had to find 2, in which case I could probably be pretty confident but having to find 3 might be a bit odd... that probably sounds a bit contradictory since I'm saying I had realeo as town anyways but I have a tendency to be wrong somewhere in my town circle when the number of unconfirmed in it become large. I can usually pick a small amount of pretty much guaranteed town and it ends up being right in most games I play.
Regfan, thoughts on realeo outside of the checks?
Also, I still think that TB is most likely town due to the day 1. If dave is indeed town, I have to decide whether or not the rest of the three have genuinely gone on eachother (which I haven't been paying much attention to). What I'm going to be doing is, instead of finding reasons as to why my town circle is correct (which I hope it is because that means I'm a boss), I'm going to change my strategy a little bit and ASSUME my town circle is correct. By doing so, I'll be looking within the 3 players left of desperado, superhans, and dunnstral. Within this, I'm going to set up the 3 worlds of:
Superhans + Desperado
Superhans + Dunnstral
Desperado + Dunnstral
as scum teams and see if I can eliminate any of the worlds. If I believe, with sufficient evidence, that the worlds can not exist, I'll stop pushing that my town circle is correct and then see where the scum can lie inside my town circle.
If people agree with my town circle for now (and by people I mean the people inside my town circle), I suggest you do the same because with 2 entire days of interactions, I think that there's more than likely sufficient associative reads to be had.
Here's my last game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=66795
In post 1963, Regfan wrote:I'm putting TB in the reconsider section for now.
Thank you.In post 1948, nydushermain wrote:won't progress to [2]
Can you quote the other one for me? I can only find him having the slot as town D1, not D2. I think you may be remembering the facts incorrectly here.In post 1966, Realeo wrote:1. No. There is two d2 readlist. The first one, TB puts Alisae at green. The null one is the second readlist.
I'm pretty confident Nydus is town here, this is coming from someone that knows him outside of the game here. As mafia I don't think Nydus is capable of faking a post like Post 1511 as genuinely as did he so quickly (Compare timestamps between his posts) when as mafia he'd have to know everything he's stating in the post is completely incorrect mechanically and found his reaction upon finding out in Post 1514 fairly town. I can provide more on Nydus being town if needed, don't mind you looking into Dunn though. What's your read on SuperHans, Desperado & Dave at the moment? I really want to solve that trio as soon as possible.In post 1967, Realeo wrote:Outside TB? I'm second guessing ndus and Dunnstral.
I kind of had the same feeling about thatIn post 1965, Regfan wrote:I'm less inclined to believe that SH would intentionally dumbtell like he did in Post 1710 and Post 1715 as mafia
In post 1288, ThinkBig wrote:@Real
In post 1143, ThinkBig wrote:Before I head off for shabbos, here are my reads:
Regfan
Gamma Emerald
Realeo
Alsae
Dunnestral
Superhans
Kop
Desperado
Davesaz
Spoiler: Key
I'll give a full explanation of my reads after shabbos. For now, I believe Gamma's claim and should there be a counterclaim, get a results to night and CC tomorrow. Gamma's result of not a goon on real makes it far more likely that he is town than scum. Gamma/Real=Not a team. Claiming an innocent result on a scum buddy would be far too risky.
I want to go back through dave and desperado's ISO. Their push on me seems opportunistic. I also don't like the way that Desperado has been throwing shades.
Have a good shabbos/weekend everyone!
I actually townread Superhans.In post 1968, Regfan wrote:What's your read on SuperHans, Desperado & Dave at the moment?
In post 1972, Regfan wrote:@Realeo - Here's the entirety of ThingBigs reads list that I can find, D1 #502 where he has Alisea listed as town, D1 #570, still has Alisea listed as town, inside Post 999 he finds recent posts of her scummy on D2 and votes her and mentions the same in Post 1039. Then in D2 #1143 he has her listed as null (maybe null town) in the reads list which he maintains in D2 #1466 until he states that he town reads the slot due to Nydus's posts and moves them to town in D2 #1621. Don't find the progression that bad overall, think your point about him pretending to read Hans ISO is much stronger. The post you just quoted isn't a new reads list, it's a copy of #1143.
In post 1039, ThinkBig wrote:Final thoughts for now: I think you'll find the last remaining scum between desperado, realeo, and alisae.
Then his 2nd readlist put Alisae at null.In post 1143, ThinkBig wrote:Before I head off for shabbos, here are my reads:
Regfan
Gamma Emerald
Realeo
Alsae
Dunnestral
Superhans
Kop
Desperado
Davesaz
Spoiler: Key
I'll give a full explanation of my reads after shabbos. For now, I believe Gamma's claim and should there be a counterclaim, get a results to night and CC tomorrow. Gamma's result of not a goon on real makes it far more likely that he is town than scum. Gamma/Real=Not a team. Claiming an innocent result on a scum buddy would be far too risky.
I want to go back through dave and desperado's ISO. Their push on me seems opportunistic. I also don't like the way that Desperado has been throwing shades.
Have a good shabbos/weekend everyone!