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I also don't see what you guys are seeing about dave

In post 1850, Dunnstral wrote:I also don't see what you guys are seeing about dave

In terms of scum or town? Because I think I called him town and superhans called him scum on the same page.

Despite my uncertainty regarding TB, based on the relatively organic game progression, I did notice this and still remember it. My interpretation of the exchange Caveat: . I just want feedback on whether this interpretation even makes sense...

In post 265, ThinkBig wrote:Welcome Desperado! I will be catching up and posting tomorrow. Hope everyone had a nice holiday.

Hey buddy who I can't talk to in PT because we don't have daytalk!

In post 266, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Desperado

I'm afraid...

(Makes joke based on username)

In post 267, ThinkBig wrote:VOTE: Gamma

Afraid of what? Please explain your vote.

OMG how can he be onto us like this? <revs chainsaw>

In post 275, Desperado wrote:@ Realeo: Ya, agreed. I found myself nodding along with Maria's thoughts a lot, actually.

@ ThinkBig: You think it's scummy to be afraid?

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One thing I didn't agree with Maria on was Superhans. Think he's town and I like the wagon that he and Dunnstral had going on Gamma, who has been active but has spent more time discussing previous games than hunting scum; further evidenced by what appears to be an RVS vote on a replacement on page 11.

Unvote
Vote: Gamma Emerald

Just ISOed Realeo to asses the competing wagon and saw that he's now voting Gamma as well, I liked what I saw particularly early on from Realeo so that makes me feel even better about this vote.

<the part of the quote directed to TB> So buddy you think we can actually get somewhere with this? <votes it to see if it takes off>

In post 276, Desperado wrote:Gamma can you be more explicit? What are you afraid of?

Umm, do you really have dirt on me?

In post 277, Gamma Emerald wrote:The role in your username

In post 278, Desperado wrote:Who else is scum?

<gee, I'd better play it at least slightly cool> Well other than me <haha> who is scum?

As I said, this is just a hypothetical view of what it could be, if they're both scum. I don't necessarily believe this is the actual subtext. By bringing it up what I want is discussion on whether it's plausible or not.

In post 1850, Dunnstral wrote:I also don't see what you guys are seeing about dave

I'd be a lot more comfortable reading you if I could be confident you understand the concept of honest posting and could recognize it when you see it.

Right now I have a light town read on Dave, I have a townread on TB, and we have realeo and regfan as conf towns. How many people are alive right now?

Oh. 5 town is enough to win lol. Okay well I'm going to focus my efforts on making sure these two are town. Scumhunting is too hard.

In post 1852, davesaz wrote:Hey buddy who I can't talk to in PT because we don't have daytalk!

This is casting shades. I do this in most of my games. It's NAI for me.

See here, here, and here. As a rule, I try to welcome replacements (though I don't always).

Also, with three town PRs, the scum team most likely chose day chat over the other PRs.

OK, back to work. I'll finish responding later.

Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
I've lost a couple games as town by failing to accurately recognize "scum leading town", so I caution against doing solely town reads.

In post 1857, davesaz wrote:Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
I've lost a couple games as town by failing to accurately recognize "scum leading town", so I caution against doing solely town reads.

Gamma had a green check on him.

In post 1851, nydushermain wrote:

In post 1850, Dunnstral wrote:I also don't see what you guys are seeing about dave

In terms of scum or town? Because I think I called him town and superhans called him scum on the same page.

in terms of him being town. I think he has a good chance of being scum

In post 1858, nydushermain wrote:

In post 1857, davesaz wrote:Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
I've lost a couple games as town by failing to accurately recognize "scum leading town", so I caution against doing solely town reads.

Gamma had a green check on him.

If realeo were a mafia pr it wouldn't matter

In post 1853, davesaz wrote:

In post 1850, Dunnstral wrote:I also don't see what you guys are seeing about dave

I'd be a lot more comfortable reading you if I could be confident you understand the concept of honest posting and could recognize it when you see it.

huh?

In post 1856, ThinkBig wrote:

In post 1852, davesaz wrote:Hey buddy who I can't talk to in PT because we don't have daytalk!

This is casting shades. I do this in most of my games. It's NAI for me.

See here, here, and here. As a rule, I try to welcome replacements (though I don't always).

Also, with three town PRs, the scum team most likely chose day chat over the other PRs.

OK, back to work. I'll finish responding later.

That's the least AI part of the sequence of events. I'm more interested in the interpretation of other townies as to why you voted Gamma in that situation.

In post 1858, nydushermain wrote:

In post 1857, davesaz wrote:Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
I've lost a couple games as town by failing to accurately recognize "scum leading town", so I caution against doing solely town reads.

Gamma had a green check on him.

The cop is only a goon cop. He would get a result goon/not a goon. Thus if real were a mafia PR, then he would still come up as not a goon. Regardless, the result gives him a much higher chance of being town than scum. I'm comfortable calling him town.

In post 1860, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1858, nydushermain wrote:

In post 1857, davesaz wrote:Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
I've lost a couple games as town by failing to accurately recognize "scum leading town", so I caution against doing solely town reads.

Gamma had a green check on him.

If realeo were a mafia pr it wouldn't matter

So if he were bulletproof, rolecop, or joat he would show up as "not goon"

In post 1860, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1858, nydushermain wrote:

In post 1857, davesaz wrote:Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
I've lost a couple games as town by failing to accurately recognize "scum leading town", so I caution against doing solely town reads.

Gamma had a green check on him.

If realeo were a mafia pr it wouldn't matter

Correct but better stated as, a goon cop green would not be accurate if realeo were a mafia pr.
I happen to agree with whomever posted that daytalk is the more likely choice, but it's best to keep realeo off the conf list regardless.

pedit: turns out I'm joining the chorus, but still posting it

Oh fuck -.-. That's dumb.

In post 1863, ThinkBig wrote:The cop is only a goon cop. He would get a result goon/not a goon. Thus if real were a mafia PR, then he would still come up as not a goon. Regardless, the result gives him a much higher chance of being town than scum. I'm comfortable calling him town.

No it doesn't. There's only one goon in the game, so he has the same chance as returning not-goon as everyone else.

In post 1867, Desperado wrote:There's only one goon in the game

How do you know this? If the mafia chose day chat, they would both be goons.

I don't think they chose day chat without recruiting, because that would be stupid.

Which part of my logic confuses you all?

Because the problem is, I get no feedback. It's just a constant battle between me v Hans.

What did you expect to get feedback from?

I tossed why TB is scum and no one talked about it.

In post 1845, nydushermain wrote:

In post 1844, davesaz wrote:If ThinkBig is scum, why are his reads changing in such an organic way that flows with the game events?

Loaded question

Isn't that why his scum? No resistance. Like he has no opinion.