If I do die in the night would appreciate if everyone picked up their activity levels tomorrow, that's about the only way town are going to win this.
And my reads haven't changed from the last reads post I made. Mod scene with the flip won't be too far away I'd imagine.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:49 am
by Desperado
In post 1649, Regfan wrote:Post 388 he asks you and Kop the same question; it's the only time it directs something at two players, this admittedly is very tin-foily and could mean nothing but if Kops scum then there's a little more weight added to it.
You pointing this out originally is when I started to get paranoid of Hans; think his treatment of ThinkBig since you replaced in rams that home.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:50 am
by Desperado
In post 1650, Regfan wrote:If I do die in the night would appreciate if everyone picked up their activity levels tomorrow, that's about the only way town are going to win this.
And my reads haven't changed from the last reads post I made. Mod scene with the flip won't be too far away I'd imagine.
It's a 70 page mini, we lynched scum D1, and FMPOV it looks like everyone feels like they have a good handle on the game state.
1) Desperado has been throwing shades at me for nearly the entire game. His "logic" and reasons are almost as bad, if not worse than, antihuman (who flipped traitor).
2) Gamma claimed goon cop. For the record, I see no reason not to believe his claim.
3) Not liking realeo at all. Don't like how he mixed up gamma's claim and turned it into a JOAT (a scum-only role in this set-up).
4) Alisae's reaction test seems contrieved and fake. These types of "reaction tests" I expect to see more from scum than from town.
Final thoughts for now: I think you'll find the last remaining scum between desperado, realeo, and alisae.
Spoiler: Between then~Alisae made 6 posts
In post 1048, Alisae wrote:I guess I'll believe Gamma's claim now that Realeo showed up.
Realeo's logic makes sense to me.
Lots of it.
In post 1123, Alisae wrote:Reg, are you suuuuuuuure that AH wasn't attempting to push another traitor? I don't remember TB having any attention on him at that point.
In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8723259#p8723259]post 1124[/url], Regfan wrote:
In post 1123, Alisae wrote:Reg, are you suuuuuuuure that AH wasn't attempting to push another traitor? I don't remember TB having any attention on him at that point.
I can guarantee you he wasn't trying to push another traitor. I think it's very unlikely he was trying to push another mafia partner, the only way that traitor can die inside this setup is via lynch effectively given their BP vest and the lack of doctor meaning that mafia are never going to night kill them.
The only way that AH makes that play is if he is confident that TB won't get lynched on the back of it and if he thinks he himself will get lynched before TB to make TB look good
. I don't think he'd be replacing into the game and instantly planning what would be optimal in his own demise and deciding to take the risk having a potentially rolled killing mafia die just to have that occur. If you notice even after the point where he stated "I wasn't trying to get you lynched" (Which was a week after trying to get him lynched) he continued voting and trying to lynch TB constantly decrediting all of TBs reads and play. It's much more likely here that TB is just town.
Sorry about the typo, meant scum instead of traitor. mybad.
The bolded is as I feel like that's exactly what happened.
In post 1137, Alisae wrote:So what?
The way I see it, AH was telling the truth.
I'll give a full explanation of my reads after shabbos. For now, I believe Gamma's claim and should there be a counterclaim, get a results to night and CC tomorrow. Gamma's result of not a goon on real makes it far more likely that he is town than scum. Gamma/Real=Not a team. Claiming an innocent result on a scum buddy would be far too risky.
I want to go back through dave and desperado's ISO. Their push on me seems opportunistic. I also don't like the way that Desperado has been throwing shades.
Have a good shabbos/weekend everyone!
Explain why suddenly Alisae from bottom 3 -> green.
Why do you think he is mafia? Why do you think he is a better lynch than desperado or superhans?
I support this product. As an isolated read, SuperHas is worse than daveaz.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:29 pm
by Dunnstral
Can the people who keep mentioning Superhans tell me why?
At the very least, nobody is voting him.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:32 pm
by ThinkBig
In post 1671, Dunnstral wrote:Can the people who keep mentioning Superhans tell me why?
At the very least, nobody is voting him.
I already explained my thoughts on those to. To reiterate:
I honestly think the best lynch today is either desperado or superhans. While I do not think they are scum together, I'm confident that there is at least one scum between them. Desperado's case against me was pretty much all shade throwing and trying to somehow connect me to antihuman (which I still do not understand).
Hans, on the other hand, took his arguments and sheeped it and cheerleaded his arguments. I find myself agreeing with Desperado that Hans sudden shift on me did not come from a town mindset. Yet the flip side of that, I really really do not like 1357.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:34 pm
by ThinkBig
UNVOTE: Desperado VOTE: Superhans
As an ISO read, Hans is worse than desperado
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:44 pm
by Desperado
In post 1671, Dunnstral wrote:Can the people who keep mentioning Superhans tell me why?
I love gambits.