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And stop calling scumhunting grandstanding. Putting pressure on, threatening to vig, and making sure everyone is ready to go for said vig are all not grandstanding.

I know you're trying to reassure yourself that you've made the right decision, but you should quit while you're way behind.

In post 851, DodgeTheSaint wrote:I know you're trying to reassure yourself that you've made the right decision, but you should quit while you're way behind.

This post adds no value, attempts to scare me off of shooting you, is not a claim so it obviously isn't helping you to "get what you need" before doing so. I don't think you are Town but posts like this are horrible.

What do you need before you claim?

In post 844, MathBlade wrote:

In post 842, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Draft zefiend.

That wasn't one of the options presented or I would be asking for Grey to be drafted.

Don't care, I'm not going to take anything AC says into account until the scum read goes away.

I'm not the one who continues to post "Dodge is scum and every post he makes confirms it" because it looks incredibly foolish and it's just embarrassing at this point. I'm just so embarrassed for you at this point I'm trying to help you save face. I'm pointing out that more people are townreading me so you start trusting their reads come the next day phase, because it will be revealed that you cannot trust your own, nor Nero's and Chara's.

In post 842, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:zefiend

Please choose between the provided two options. Unless you mean to tell me you're scum reading all 4 of them!!

~A50

Because I'm gonna be very annoyed if after having to suffer through your grandstanding is that I'll be watching you continue to follow Nero and AC on Day 3.

In post 853, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

In post 844, MathBlade wrote:

In post 842, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Draft zefiend.

That wasn't one of the options presented or I would be asking for Grey to be drafted.

Don't care, I'm not going to take anything AC says into account until the scum read goes away.

...Then why make that post at all if you think AC won't listen to it. It is literally dead posting. Furthermore you aren't actually doing anything about your scumread to see who he Could be scum with.

In post 855, Almost50 wrote:

In post 842, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:zefiend

Please choose between the provided two options. Unless you mean to tell me you're scum reading all 4 of them!!

~A50

I believe the claim so I see no reason to break up the masons.
I don't think Titus will work well over here, we just drafted Vifam.
Tywin looks to have siteflaked.

In post 855, Almost50 wrote:

In post 842, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:zefiend

Please choose between the provided two options. Unless you mean to tell me you're scum reading all 4 of them!!

~A50

I hereby PROMISE I will NEVER play a game with my original account at the same time I'm playing with my hydra!! I can't believe I'm making so many hydra slips when I'm using TWO DIFFERENT BROWSERS (Well, I'd still be using Almost50 for the hydra PT anyway...)

In post 858, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

In post 855, Almost50 wrote:

In post 842, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:zefiend

Please choose between the provided two options. Unless you mean to tell me you're scum reading all 4 of them!!

~A50

I believe the claim so I see no reason to break up the masons.
I don't think Titus will work well over here, we just drafted Vifam.
Tywin looks to have siteflaked.

Oh! I didn't know Tywin flaked. That would very much pose a problem there indeed.

Also I literally want no other outcome than you shooting me, so please stop with the 'woe is me he's trying to scare me into not shooting him' nonsense. No, I'm trying to shame you into playing better. I don't use the word shame to make you feel bad, I use it to make a point because you've stuck yourself into a confirm bias spiral.

In post 857, MathBlade wrote:

In post 853, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

In post 844, MathBlade wrote:

In post 842, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Draft zefiend.

That wasn't one of the options presented or I would be asking for Grey to be drafted.

Don't care, I'm not going to take anything AC says into account until the scum read goes away.

...Then why make that post at all if you think AC won't listen to it. It is literally dead posting. Furthermore you aren't actually doing anything about your scumread to see who he Could be scum with.

Incase you use your vig shot on me.

I don't look for associations, I focus on one person at a time and see if people can follow what I'm saying until I get a stronger scum read or I'm forced to compromise.

If you were to draft his replacement, then he'd have fresh eyes for RAW. There's a thought.

Also don't you dare shoot anyone else but me.

In post 854, DodgeTheSaint wrote:I'm not the one who continues to post "Dodge is scum and every post he makes confirms it" because it looks incredibly foolish and it's just embarrassing at this point. I'm just so embarrassed for you at this point I'm trying to help you save face. I'm pointing out that more people are townreading me so you start trusting their reads come the next day phase, because it will be revealed that you cannot trust your own, nor Nero's and Chara's.

I don't give a shit about saving face. I care about lynching scum.

The worst case scenario is I am wrong you are Town and I don't get NKd like I think I will. Then I use what I have overnight to reset.

Furthermore one bad read (assuming it is bad which I don't think so) doesn't make my townreads of AC and Nero invalid. What it means is re examine things. No more no less.

In post 843, MathBlade wrote:Because I find it very unlikely a mod would put in a town one shot vig, a town doctor/killer, AND infinite shot vig masons.

But what if they were limited shots, say 2X?? Would that change the situation/read for you??

~A50

In post 864, MathBlade wrote:

In post 854, DodgeTheSaint wrote:I'm not the one who continues to post "Dodge is scum and every post he makes confirms it" because it looks incredibly foolish and it's just embarrassing at this point. I'm just so embarrassed for you at this point I'm trying to help you save face. I'm pointing out that more people are townreading me so you start trusting their reads come the next day phase, because it will be revealed that you cannot trust your own, nor Nero's and Chara's.

I don't give a shit about saving face. I care about lynching scum.

The worst case scenario is I am wrong you are Town and I don't get NKd like I think I will. Then I use what I have overnight to reset.

Furthermore one bad read (assuming it is bad which I don't think so) doesn't make my townreads of AC and Nero invalid. What it means is re examine things. No more no less.

Then if this is not going to make you play better, what will? What do you need from me to make that happen? Knowing that you won't waiver on AC or Nero after my townflip is very troubling and really bad if you honestly intend to follow through with that tomorrow.

In post 861, DodgeTheSaint wrote:Also I literally want no other outcome than you shooting me, so please stop with the 'woe is me he's trying to scare me into not shooting him' nonsense. No, I'm trying to shame you into playing better. I don't use the word shame to make you feel bad, I use it to make a point because you've stuck yourself into a confirm bias spiral.

Telling me what I need to do better works a lot better post game. During the game it doesn't help to just repeat "you suck". I see 0 Town motivation in that. Instead of you want me to improve you should do a readwall with reasons why for each person so I can see your "better" logic. I put that in quotes because I have lready explained where I don't think you have a townie mindset.

In post 866, DodgeTheSaint wrote:

In post 864, MathBlade wrote:

In post 854, DodgeTheSaint wrote:I'm not the one who continues to post "Dodge is scum and every post he makes confirms it" because it looks incredibly foolish and it's just embarrassing at this point. I'm just so embarrassed for you at this point I'm trying to help you save face. I'm pointing out that more people are townreading me so you start trusting their reads come the next day phase, because it will be revealed that you cannot trust your own, nor Nero's and Chara's.

I don't give a shit about saving face. I care about lynching scum.

The worst case scenario is I am wrong you are Town and I don't get NKd like I think I will. Then I use what I have overnight to reset.

Furthermore one bad read (assuming it is bad which I don't think so) doesn't make my townreads of AC and Nero invalid. What it means is re examine things. No more no less.

Then if this is not going to make you play better, what will? What do you need from me to make that happen? Knowing that you won't waiver on AC or Nero after my townflip is very troubling and really bad if you honestly intend to follow through with that tomorrow.

I said I would reset in that paragraph. I am saying that it will not necessarily lead me to one way or the other. But I also don't throw out all of what I have seen like power role crumb. Just the "reads" portion resets. Facts don't.

In post 865, Almost Chara wrote:

In post 843, MathBlade wrote:Because I find it very unlikely a mod would put in a town one shot vig, a town doctor/killer, AND infinite shot vig masons.

But what if they were limited shots, say 2X?? Would that change the situation/read for you??

~A50

Not really because if 4 scum on one brand with the two vig killers then one brand could theoretically lose without a single lynch and only two players playing the game.

I understand theme games can be swingy but at least one lynch should be required before LyLO.

Otherwise the two vig masons could just be the only two relevant players.

I still don't think that's a PR claim.

You've been talking about balance a bit this game. Claiming that multiple dayvigs was unbalanced for the town to have. Why would a manager have another power besides drafting? Drafting is already a huge power.

And no, I don't wish for Chara to participate in this particular set-up spec.

In post 871, DodgeTheSaint wrote:I still don't think that's a PR claim.

You've been talking about balance a bit this game. Claiming that multiple dayvigs was unbalanced for the town to have. Why would a manager have another power besides drafting? Drafting is already a huge power.

It may be a part of the manager bit. I don't know about it and I am not going to hunt a PR claim for what PR. I am going to hunt the person behind the claim though. Based on how it was presented I feel it is genuine. So the most likely scenarios to me are AC and Nero Town followed by AC scum Nero Town then lastly both scum. I don't see a world where Nero is scum and AC town based on that post.

I agree with your last conclusion at the very leaast.