I HATE YOU for making me do this. You should know (and most of those who played more than one game with me do know) one of my weakest aspects of the game is trying to make cases, whether these are scum or town cases. I'll do my best though.
Nero came out of the gate blazing. He did not even use his site-meta earned right to RVS, but rather expressed a scum read on KMD and voted there. Furthermore, he didn't hesitate in voicing out hi opinion on SD (sum reading Maria) when it was still debatable whether scum hunting in SD was considered scummy or not.
In other words, Nero makes no reservations and is paying little if any attention how anyone could try to angle-shoot his play. This -to me- is genuine aggressive scum hunting, which makes him Town in my eyes.
As for you, your #31 contained 3 lines: 1: Sarcasm. NAI, 2: defending McMenno. Minor Town credit, 3: Town reading Narna. More Town cred.
Your #71 looks more detailed in why you defended McMenno, and has a true statement in that scum will likely push on a joke as they tend to try to find "something" to start their attack on Town. So, not only did you not join the push, you defended McMenno with reason and logic.
Still, I've put you as my 4th on the list, so if it comes down to you vs Narna, Nero or McMenno I'd be lynching you over any of them. However, I don't wan you gone over anyone else apart from those 3, and we only have one lynch, so I'm trying to narrow down my options for the day.
Unfortunately we canNOT draft KT over here no matter what he says he is. First; until he DOES start producing results there's nothing confirmed about his role to begin with. Second; his play is annoying I'd rather be lynched myself over bringing him to play in my own brand, let alone by my own choice. Third; it's not just me. There are several players who feel uncomfortable with KT's play, and it's not going to be any smoother if we had him here. The noise he produces could very much cloud the air to the point we can't see scum mooning us and brushing their behinds to our faces. Why would I want to poison the air in my brand's thread?
In short, we have several other choices that are all better than KT to bring over here. Titus (if not the one massive picks to be undraftable) is a great choice. Tywin (Obv!Town in my book) is a good choice too. Grey (whom you seem to have reservations over) I have a Town lean on for both his play of late AND Titus being confident of his alignment (Titus can tunnel town thinking they might be scum, but rarely ever gets stubborn over a town read if she's not fairly confident in it). Maria is my own Town read, but I might not draft her for fear she might work as a distraction to Nero. Vifam is another alternative I might consider since both our slot (myself and Chara) and Nero Cain are leaning Town on him.
So, FIVE alternatives to pick from there with 2 that I don't think anyone could argue against.
Suffice it to say, our choices are:
- Titus: Top choice if she is draftable.
- Tywin: No problem here, but Titus wants him there
- Maria: My personal preferred 3rd choice, but Nero doesn't like her
- Grey: Looks like a decent pick, but you (my top Town read) seem to have reservations
- Vifam: May be the best compromise draft if Titus isn't on the table considering they don't like him much there as we do here
P.S. Your feedback is VERY appreciated. I won't try to run this brand as a dictator unless I'm forced to. Both myself and Chara agree that we can properly play our role w/o being total jerks about it.
P-edit:
I may have misunderstood, but if by "double-lynch" you mean using a finisher AND having a normal lynch, I believe Vince said somewhere that someone tapping out WILL end the day. Apologies in advance if I did misunderstand.
~A50
If his role is actually VERY STRONG;;; we WON'T be ABLE TO DRAFT THE KAIN TEPOS after he produces RESULTS..,
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:52 pm
by Narna
Grey seems harder to sort than a PR claim. Maria is a scumlean at the moment, and I don't think they'd be an ideal pick for us even as town. I like pretty much all of Vifam's content though, and he would be my second choice at the moment. Titus isn't bad, but it would be a decent idea to separate those two.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:52 pm
by Narna
My current vote is useless, VOTE: kmd
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:56 pm
by Narna
Spoiler: Gamma
I wanted to see if the finisher would fail again. Titus was also questioning why their voteblock became a post block (a mistake), so there was a lot of suspicion around you at that moment.
I would expect town!Gamma to be willing to die to avoid having a dangerous role hurt town, not threaten to use a dangerous role if he was lynched.
This is the lamest meta read I've seen in a minute. Lynch that.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:19 pm
by Narna
Like what townie wants to die without using their power?
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:24 pm
by Narna
Spoiler: Grey
Link me to a game where Gamma doesn't use his pr as town because it's anti town. In fact, link me to any recent game where someone does this.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:30 pm
by Ms Columbo
In post 183, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I was talking about his improvement over the course of the last month. His reaction to McMemmo didn't ping me at all because I've watched him become the kind of player to overreact to things like that. He's also still fairly new and inexperienced.
I don't recall ever giving a read on him by the way.
Context sure makes a difference. I thought the "ever since" was in reference to first sentence:
"TB's reaction to the dayvig thing is NAI as Penguinos pointed out in 32.
Ever since
he has started improving, he has been a lot more serious about things for whatever reason so I wouldn't read into it."
I read that as 'Ever since [TB's reaction to the dayvig thing] he has started improving".
I thought it strange that someone would sub in and try to paint BG as town in that manner. Seemed like scum trying to paint his partner in a positive light. I read that as indicating he was town.
Your explanation makes sense. In that light: UNVOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
I didn't realize I had much of a read on him. So thanks for clearing that up. Also, yeah, thinkbig town is my steongest town read in the game. It's obvious why he was so bothered by mcmenno's action, but if you can't figure out why, I'm not going into it. Maybe scum can't figure it out either. The replace out is a bit more than mildly annoying though. This kind of thing is why people who replace out shouldn't be allowed to join new games for at least a month.
You're right, that was my mistake. Your town read was on All-Alone, who lil subbed in for. Same slot, different player. With lil's explanation, my theory has fizzled.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:49 pm
by Kmd4390
Oh, wow. The mistake is mine then. Didn't realize he replaced All Alone.
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:17 am
by Vince McMahon
Notes:
- Looking for a replacement for ThinkBig
- Prodding Malpascp and Banana Mint
(expired on 2017-01-04 12:30:00) until the end of Day One.
With 13 alive, it takes seven to lynch.
I didn't realize I had much of a read on him. So thanks for clearing that up. Also, yeah, thinkbig town is my steongest town read in the game. It's obvious why he was so bothered by mcmenno's action, but if you can't figure out why, I'm not going into it. Maybe scum can't figure it out either. The replace out is a bit more than mildly annoying though. This kind of thing is why people who replace out shouldn't be allowed to join new games for at least a month.
You're right, that was my mistake. Your town read was on All-Alone, who lil subbed in for. Same slot, different player. With lil's explanation, my theory has fizzled.
In post 238, Kmd4390 wrote:Oh, wow. The mistake is mine then. Didn't realize he replaced All Alone.
@all - Does Kmd do this as scum? (didn't realize that lil had replaced All Alone)
The reaction feels natural. First thought - this seems town.
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:41 am
by Kmd4390
Neither alignment is more or less likely to not see someone replaced. You could argue that a me/you team is unlikely because you'd notice your scumbuddy leave, but that's about it.
I want to point out that with a week to deadline, we don't have a single wagon above two and should consolidate. The problem is I don't even know where to vote that will make that happen.
Also, massive and titus what the fuck no don't draft me. I'll never be able to keep up with the pace of that game. I'll be completely useless to you there in more ways than one. Like role related stuff doesn't work there either.
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:00 am
by Kmd4390
Mod
, any word on a replacement for thinkbig who just signed up for another game?
, any word on a replacement for thinkbig who just signed up for another game?
*sigh*
I don't know what to say. I'm working on it. I'm even offering to cross-replace.
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:25 am
by Leonshade
@Ms Columbo:
It's not a townslip/tell, but it does mean KMD and Lil Uzi are probably not buddies (so what KMD said).
@KMD:
I'm pretty clueless about today's lynch as well, I'm less confident about my Dodge SR after my interactions with him, and there's so little activity and so many lurkers that I haven't sorted half the players in any way.