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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:31 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1049, Vifam wrote:You're on the opposite brand though, the masons have to be together for them to activate their move the minute one of them is killed/drafted the move is useless. I don't see why it's that unbelievable, especially seeing as you have one shot, and dayvigs are mostly used on D1 before anyone could draft but since Bannana wasn't doing anything it got used later than normal
That is why I put it day one.

But a good mod doesn't count for "usual". This site meta is you day vig D1. However in f2f games that is usually not the case. I think some sites are trending later especially as JoATs. I don't see Kuroi putting in a scenario in which a D1 mislynch could lose Town the game.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:33 pm
by MathBlade
Spoiler: Grey
No. see prior paragraph where one or none are scum. I think if you aren't lynching in the masons lynch a lurker or DS. If DS is scum Titus is.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:34 pm
by Almost Chara
<redacted>

I rarely ever use vulgarity, but this was so frustrating I went off my way for a second and had to reedit upon revision.

WHY Tywin? And why do it HERE? I'm sure he had something to say that would have probably helped us in this thread as he seemed to be quite the scum hunter. *Sigh*

I have yet to read anything n SD, but I'm going to have to do an ISO of Tywin soon to see how he viewed the situation on both threads.

I have one more thing to say, but -for fear it might be misunderstood- I'm going to keep it to myself for now.

~A50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:35 pm
by MathBlade
After I scream all day about reading both threads people don't read both threads.

*sigh*

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:37 pm
by Vifam
In post 1050, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1049, Vifam wrote:You're on the opposite brand though, the masons have to be together for them to activate their move the minute one of them is killed/drafted the move is useless. I don't see why it's that unbelievable, especially seeing as you have one shot, and dayvigs are mostly used on D1 before anyone could draft but since Bannana wasn't doing anything it got used later than normal
That is why I put it day one.

But a good mod doesn't count for "usual". This site meta is you day vig D1. However in f2f games that is usually not the case. I think some sites are trending later especially as JoATs. I don't see Kuroi putting in a scenario in which a D1 mislynch could lose Town the game.
You start off on raw though, that scenario could only happen if you're all in the same thread together and that would be after you used your shot here

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:39 pm
by MathBlade
Spoiler: Smackdown
If there wasn't the mason vig claim that is so anti my own rolePM I would lynch DS here for the scumread of Titus EoD that he drops today at start of day.


Pedit Vifam
Yes...so? It is still a way Town could lose on D1. I don't see any mod doing that. I also didn't use my vig shot and debated just campaigning for a switch.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:40 pm
by Almost Chara
@Math:

I have yet to read anything on SD TODAY. I've just got in, so reading my own thread first. That's what I meant. I haven't even opened the hydra PT yet to see if Chara had anything to say.

~A50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:41 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1052, Almost Chara wrote:<redacted>

I rarely ever use vulgarity, but this was so frustrating I went off my way for a second and had to reedit upon revision.

WHY Tywin? And why do it HERE? I'm sure he had something to say that would have probably helped us in this thread as he seemed to be quite the scum hunter. *Sigh*

I have yet to read anything n SD, but I'm going to have to do an ISO of Tywin soon to see how he viewed the situation on both threads.

I have one more thing to say, but -for fear it might be misunderstood- I'm going to keep it to myself for now.

~A50
Please explain I don't like this fear it might be misunderstood bit.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:41 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1056, Almost Chara wrote:@Math:

I have yet to read anything on SD TODAY. I've just got in, so reading my own thread first. That's what I meant. I haven't even opened the hydra PT yet to see if Chara had anything to say.

~A50
Oh okay sorry. Just frustrated over not reading. Why play mafia if you won't read?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:43 pm
by Kmd4390
In post 1047, malpascp wrote:Math is conf!town.
Pep reeks of newbscum.
I don't understand the reasoning behind lynching Vifam.
Regarding the masons, I think they might be lying about having another shot, that was probably the only one.
McMenno is still useless.

@Math: you're the math guy/person(s)/whatever, if both GMs were scum wouldn't this setup be extremely scum-sided? Having one of each alignment would make no sense balance-wise imo
When did math get confirmed?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:47 pm
by Vifam
In post 1055, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler: Smackdown
If there wasn't the mason vig claim that is so anti my own rolePM I would lynch DS here for the scumread of Titus EoD that he drops today at start of day.


Pedit Vifam
Yes...so? It is still a way Town could lose on D1. I don't see any mod doing that. I also didn't use my vig shot and debated just campaigning for a switch.
It's not an autoloss on D1 if you make the shot over here...while they're in they're in SD

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:48 pm
by Kmd4390
Vote malpa

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:55 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1060, Vifam wrote:
In post 1055, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler: Smackdown
If there wasn't the mason vig claim that is so anti my own rolePM I would lynch DS here for the scumread of Titus EoD that he drops today at start of day.


Pedit Vifam
Yes...so? It is still a way Town could lose on D1. I don't see any mod doing that. I also didn't use my vig shot and debated just campaigning for a switch.
It's not an autoloss on D1 if you make the shot over here...while they're in they're in SD
No setup should ever start it is not an auto loss on D1 if...ever

That setup doesn't get past any reviewer.

Spoiler: Grey
Uhm that is ridiculous. You don't do nothing on Smackdown and wait for Raw lol.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:56 pm
by Vifam
MB what exactly is your restriction to make your shot

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:01 pm
by malpascp
In post 1059, Kmd4390 wrote:
In post 1047, malpascp wrote:Math is conf!town.
Pep reeks of newbscum.
I don't understand the reasoning behind lynching Vifam.
Regarding the masons, I think they might be lying about having another shot, that was probably the only one.
McMenno is still useless.

@Math: you're the math guy/person(s)/whatever, if both GMs were scum wouldn't this setup be extremely scum-sided? Having one of each alignment would make no sense balance-wise imo
When did math get confirmed?
He just dayvigged ffs

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:03 pm
by Vifam
scum can have dayvigs lmao

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:06 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1063, Vifam wrote:MB what exactly is your restriction to make your shot
I said it yesterday when I used it. Before d4 and before LyLO.

Pedit:
Spoiler: Grey
Good point

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:12 pm
by Vifam
Nothing else?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:17 pm
by malpascp
Math is town.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:19 pm
by MathBlade
One shot cannot be used after d4 (typo before but no way it wasn't being used then when I scumread DTS so hard) and can't be used in LyLO. That is it yeah.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:21 pm
by Vifam
What was all the asshole stuff about then

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:28 pm
by MathBlade
Because I wasn't sure if it was a restriction or not. I went along with it because calling myself an asshole can be fun and liberating. I talked about it later with Kuroi and it was more flavortext like. Apparently Randy Orton is a mean guy.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:28 pm
by Almost Chara
@Math:

Alright, but first let me reassure you I am TOWN READING Vifam. This may be lost!Vifam or even apathetic!Vifam, bu it's NOT Scum!Vifam if I know anything about his scum game.

However, what I was referring to is the fact Scum opted to off Tywin before he could say a single word here, but were fine letting Vifam live. WHY?

My guess is Vifam has not been too active (true) coupled with him going after the wrong people (can't prove that yet). Tywin must'd had GOOD reads on THIS thread and him obviously being a driving force meant he was probably going to pose a threat to scum in here.

The reason I wanted o keep my mouth shut about it for now if I see a notion to lynch Vifam for some ridiculous proposition. I mean, mislynch on purpose in OUR brand to confrim the Masons in the OTHER brand?? Why would we want to willingly put ourselves in LyLo (assuming we started with 3 scums in each thread) to start with??

For the record: Mathblade is top tier TOWN, followed by both McMenno & Vifam. Mal is likely Town too, but I'm not betting on it.

On SD; Titus, Nero, Leon, Maria & Pepto are all Town. massive is very much likely Town too. That leaves DS, Grey & Zefiend in my lynch pool if I had any say in the matter.

~A50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:33 pm
by MathBlade
Yeah no. Those reads on Smackdown are horrible. There's no way Vifam should be top tier town.

Because Grey is a top tier town read of mine and if Vifam flips town then pretty much that's instant permission for Grey to be the lynch over there.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:33 pm
by Vince McMahon
Who is the real champ here?