Code Geass Mafia (Game Over?!)

Vecna · Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:39 pm

Also, were obviously lynching keyrb today.

Scum did not make their lover suicide.....because he was scum alongside of him.

Still makes no sense why he outted that he was now lovers with pain though. Only if he was strongly anticipated we'd pick up on the 24h deadline that he had to decide to kill off keyrb.

Vecna · Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:43 pm

Its just meant to confirm youre flailing around looking for reasons to vote me, even though theyre completely terrible

Vecna · Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:02 pm

Looking forward to Titus to stop hiding behind bastard-apathy and bite down in some scum

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:36 am

In post 2974, Leonshade wrote:YOU KILLED MY LOVER! PREPARE TO DIE!

(after I get back from VLA).

Note that the force-suicide defaults to no after 24 hours, so CD might have simplu accidentally let key live.

yes, im sure scum that is about to get lynched would choose to go afk when they can drag a town along with them.

They just pretended to be afk in the hopes we'd think they werent scum partners holed up together in their little pt.

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:38 am

In post 2977, McMenno wrote:no lynching keyxrb on stupid wifomy reasons on my watch please

VOTE: vecna

I think you dont understand the meaning of wifom. Confirmed scum had a chance to kill someone. They chose not to. Besides, I was already scumreading KeyRB anyways for a long time, this just is the nail in the coffin.

VOTE: KeyRB

But hey, choose to remain useless all game if u prefer.

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:29 am

Dumbtelling isnt your style Rb.

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:39 am

I think the person hinted that it was night only.

Are you a noble Davesaz?

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:53 am

Rm, cd was scum.

Read his flavour claim. Read the flavourclaim from the guy that hammered him day1.

Then remove head from ass.

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:24 am

So why are you voting me instead of near confirmed scum keyrb?

Trying to stop another scumlynch?

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:30 pm

So convenient that everyone keeps ignoring the fact that a scum was lovers with KeyRB. The scum died and KeyxRb didnt.

Hey guys, vote the guy making the logical argument. Scumfucks the lot of you.

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:33 pm

Also whoever played with Rb before should have a very clear picture that this is not how he plays as town.

He hasnt hunted anything down. He has zero conviction on anything he does. He hasnt made a proper argument for any of his votes (best case in point his last vote on me - townRb would know my vote had A LOT of merit due to him still being alive) Even his trolling feels forced as fuck.

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:35 pm

In post 3026, Painbringer wrote:
In post 2977, McMenno wrote:no lynching keyxrb on stupid wifomy reasons on my watch please

VOTE: vecna
Inclined to agree with all but vote. Why would CD change if they wanted to wifom? Need more data.

Are you no longer scumreading Rb is what youre saying?

Vecna · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:38 pm

I need Davesaz to get his ass in here to confirm whether he's a noble or not

Vecna · Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:09 am

Yes I know that argument can be made. So did scum when they decided to not kill Rb. Why risk a certain kill on a maybe in a role-madness game where tons of abilities probably exist to clear/condemn the slot?

And if youre seriously thinking that they mightve neglected to submit.......Look at who the hydra consists of. You know full well that one of those 2 people is hyper-active when town and doesnt miss anything. The sudden lurking when it became obvious that he was getting lynched a second time was only meant to create the illusion that it mightve been a V/LA thing.

But hey, I must be scum for pushing my scumreads. I must be scum for making it so blatantly obvious that I want this lynch. Scum totally would do that as opposed to just sitting back and relax while watching it unfold. Maybe you should reflect on your own play NC - scumreading the slot but going after other people for actually coming up with reasons for wanting it lynched. Because if anything is giving off strong scumtells atm, its you with your hedgey weird post.

Vecna · Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:35 am

lurk lurk lurk lurk

Everyone is a lurker.

15 players alive, noone talking.

Tududududu

Vecna · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:12 am

why are you so opinionated on the matter anyway. From where im sitting, this is pretty actual scum. If it dont get lynched ill have my vigrobot 9000 blow him up tonight.

Also davesaz is probably a scumlord as well.

Vecna · Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:40 am

In post 3049, davesaz wrote:
In post 3033, Vecna wrote:I need Davesaz to get his ass in here to confirm whether he's a noble or not
I've confirmed it more than once previously -- yes I'm a noble.

Thanks

Vecna · Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:18 pm

sup guys. Lets get this over with. KeyRB lynch please.

Vecna · Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:26 pm

Its L-2 according to the previous votecount I think?

8 to lynch.

Vecna · Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:28 pm

Also remember, if this (KeyRB) flips scum without Painbringer doing anything properly reasoned out with the wagon PAINBRINGER needs a LOT of attention tomorrow.

The painbringer slot was scumreading KeyRB all of D1 and making a big fuss about it. Now that theres a lot more evidence for it, theyre suddenly trying to push another wagon.

Vecna · Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:54 am

Just hammer him please culted

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:15 am

Did someone still have an overview of all the flavourclaims? I think I have a good way of sorting quite a bunch of them.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:17 am

Also, judging by the information we now have, were definately looking for SUZAKU KURURUGI as a scumlord id say.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:22 am

Also of note: Kaintepes + McMenno are both lovers and both joined the special zone together.

Did you guys notice any suspect behaviour that might indicate who was the target of the GEASS cast by lelouch? The 3 word mind controll?

Also, Malpas hasnt used his knightmare anymore since he was outted by culted. Strange

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:41 am

In post 2421, malpascp wrote:I cannot pledge loyalty, and cannot be protected.
If I'm wearing my Knightmare, I can target someone and destroy any Knightmares they have. If they are wearing it they die. Also cannot be blocked or redirected.

Any questions?

Do you guys think this could be the abilities for Suzaku Kururugi as well as Kallen? According to the wiki they both have shaky loyalties that are all over the place - Are both characters major enough for them to both make sense in this setup? How does it compare to the role in the show from the character that was Lelouch's fakeclaim?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:48 am

Painbringer was talking about a gift. Not chara clearly gave him the gift.

Scum could have had a role that let them know that Not Chara gave the gift and decided that they shouldve killed the 2 of them?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:00 am

Since Culted is being somewhat absent lately, ill be making the demands again on his behalf

Davesaz, could you come in here and confirm (Just a yes or no to both will suffice, no other details required) whether you have:
a: Any

GEASS

ability
b: Any

KNIGHTMARE

ability

Realize that lying will result in a swift execution, we have ways of knowing

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:05 am

Feel free to add
c: Any normal abilities besides being a noble (as in abilities that are not geass/knightmare related).

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:17 am

Also sorry for poking you a lot if youre part of freedom, just know its very important information in the scum hunting process and ill probably clarify later on.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:20 am

In post 3196, Alisae wrote:We shouldn't be judging who is what alignment is based of off flavor because we don't have a scum flip yet.

We have 2 scumflips lol.

KeyRB had a fakeclaim ffs.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:25 am

What special benefit do you give if youre loyal to someone if i might ask?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:51 am

In post 3210, Alisae wrote:
In post 3202, Vecna wrote:
In post 3196, Alisae wrote:We shouldn't be judging who is what alignment is based of off flavor because we don't have a scum flip yet.
We have 2 scumflips lol.

KeyRB had a fakeclaim ffs.
Third party but ok

He was scum turned third party.

Which could also mean he was getting hardcore bussed when they figured out he no longer was a part of their little team I guess

(if that is how it works)

KaptainTepas/McDog can you elaborate a bit more on what the mod told you about your short stay in wonderland?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:53 am

In post 3215, Randomnamechange wrote:VOTE: culted
100% scum sheep me on this
btw culted is a noble

How about you elaborate? Mr scum defender

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:54 am

In post 3203, davesaz wrote:You think that was a scum->3p alignment change?

Dave I know im being annoying, but can you tell me a bit more about your non-geass non-knightmare non-noble ability that you have? Culted mightve been the target of KeyRB's redirection and he asked me to find out since he has limited time this week.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:03 am

How can you gather that?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:05 am

Also was freedom at peace with the Special zone?

Also, what happened to the devellopment of the little sidestory?

Can you use the meow thing now McMenno?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:50 am

In post 3222, McMenno wrote:well basically...

when we entered the special zone, we got a new role pm, saying that we are aligned with the special zone, the new "unity" passive and instead of a town wincon, a town and survivor wincon, as you can see in rb's role pm

Yeah but how did you know that rb was third party before and not scum?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:11 am

In post 3229, McMenno wrote:
In post 3227, Vecna wrote:
In post 3222, McMenno wrote:well basically...

when we entered the special zone, we got a new role pm, saying that we are aligned with the special zone, the new "unity" passive and instead of a town wincon, a town and survivor wincon, as you can see in rb's role pm
Yeah but how did you know that rb was third party before and not scum?
it's in his

r-o-l-e p-m

Ah right, its rather obvious indeed looking at it.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:21 am

In post 3226, davesaz wrote:
In post 3218, Vecna wrote:
In post 3203, davesaz wrote:You think that was a scum->3p alignment change?
Dave I know im being annoying, but can you tell me a bit more about your non-geass non-knightmare non-noble ability that you have? Culted mightve been the target of KeyRB's redirection and he asked me to find out since he has limited time this week.
Targets: Painbringer N2, Creature N3. I want to keep scum guessing on who they should prioritize for NK's so would prefer not to say what it does.

Peculiar. This was not in what I heard from the report so either someone was withholding information or someone was redirected. Possibly by mr Lelouch.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:52 am

Culted, lets talk in the pt.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:54 am

Also, im quite sure of those 2/3 if anyone, Alisae is the baddy. BTD even claimed before that he visited pain.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:20 am

In post 3248, culted wrote:
In post 3242, Randomnamechange wrote:culted, did you see the night 2 kill?
Yea Ari died.
And I watched vecna.

Inb4 BTD claims to have given another gift to the same slot last night.

How did you watch 2 different targets? Isnt your watching linked to your loyalty?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:21 am

Because unless Davesaz is lying, KeyRb visited me night 2

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:25 am

Wait, so because im not a noble you could pledge to a different person during D3?

Loyalty only works if youre pledging to a true noble?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:26 am

Makes sense I guess. You tried to pledge to me, but your ability showed nothing because im not a noble so you didnt become loyal. gotcha.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:32 am

VOTE: Alisae

Yep, im good with this.

Now its time for you to be on the recieving end boooi

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:43 am

I guess its time to go watch the show or something. Not even knowing what the likely flavours of scum are is annoying.

Knowing now that Lelouch was 3rd party indeed makes it likely that the bad guys are like....the brittanian invading emperor and palls?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:58 am

If thats the case, then why on earth didnt painbringer use that knightmare gift last night?

Seems pretty awkward to receive such a strong toy and not use it.

(not saying I do not believe you).

Guess painbringer never knew the power?

Anyways Id give some of those toys to culted now that you can choose a new person to be loyal to.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:05 am

At any rate guys, I think this is a public service announcement that has potential to save your life:

NO MORE FLAVOURCLAIMS UNLESS ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED

I have this suspicion scum is using them for kills. FrozenAngel comodded a previous setup where flavournames were also used to kill people and I think she mightve taken a liking to that mechanic.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:16 am

Im not really sure if thatll stop anything though :p

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:17 am

Creature, we need more creature.

Please get him in here for more creature.

ok, creature?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:22 am

Yeah seeing how happy painbringer was with his/her gift, BTD6's claim seems quite genuine. Especially since he allready outted it before Culted outed the report.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:30 am

Ok creature, how about this.

You can ignore the following people:
Vekna
Culted
Leonshade
BtD6

^ these are all goodsack townboys

You also dont need to look into yourself, and were lynching Alisae now.

That leaves like 7 people for you to look into. Dog McMenno and Kaintepes are like, totally out there

4 other people remaining. Id like you to do some shit to them.

Davesaz
Some noble dude I always forget the name off because he's rather forgetfull
-ehm?
-ehm? Oh yeah malpas

I dont even know who is in this game lol. Scumlurkfuckers

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:33 am

Oh yeah, randommidget.

Im just gonna do this:

Either both Dogmenno and kaintepes are town....or theyre both scum. Im gonna flip a coin and say town.

That leaves:
Alisae, the scumfuck
Davesaz
KlingonCult
Malpas
RandomMidget
Creature

Theres another ~3? scum in those 6 names.

Game almost solved boys

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:35 am

Totally gonna watch some Code Geass now. This show better be as awesome as the first 10 or so episodes of death note

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:22 pm

In post 3287, Creature wrote:randomidget will be just a nullread as him lurking is usual.

His style of lurking appears different to me than it did in Deathnote mafia.

He was also hard-defending KeyRB for some weird reason and did some other weird shit that stood out to me.

Not saying I have a solid scumread on the slot, but I can see it being scum.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:23 pm

In post 3294, Alisae wrote:Yeah I killed Diamond AND Painbringer.

Reasons for this, please

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:28 pm

In post 3301, Alisae wrote:Vecna what were you doing visiting Painbringer last night?

Ill answer this in a little bit, already claimed it in our pt.

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:32 pm

And its true that we really do need a scumflip already, especially of the scum noble.

It pretty much has to be the Britannian nobility that is the occupying force for the scum team though, right?

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:33 pm

In post 3304, McMenno wrote:alisae what's your flavor

Whatever fakeclaim he has received to cover for him being sazuku no doubt

Vecna · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:35 pm

Im going to go out on a very strong limb here and theorize that both scum and town have a similair vig role using their knightmares, where one is Kallen (malpas) and the other is sazuku.

Could be completely wrong ofcourse but that seems to make some sense at least seeing what ive seen from the show so far and read on the wiki's.

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:07 am

In post 3310, malpascp wrote:There's no vigs here
I destroy knightmares and Alisae is scum

Wait, didnt you state that you kill the person if you destroy their knightmare?

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:52 am

Did you just confirm youre sazuku?

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:16 am

In post 3328, Alisae wrote:Yeah same, I should have died last night if Mal was sus of me.
but I said I had a knightmare that allowed me to vig people.
That's enough to draw a nightkill now isn't it?

Malpas didnt use his knightmare last knight so wasnt able to destroy/kill anyone

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:26 am

Id be ok with that.

Anyways, im 10 episodes in and......these flips + flavournames make no sense to all be freedom faction.

Black knights flipping as freedom, Britannian overlords flipping as freedom

who could the scum faction even be at this point? The japanese freedom fighters?

Guess a bunch of stuff might happen later on but so far its making no sense to me unless theres some bastard mechanic in play that makes scum flip as freedom.

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:39 am

In post 3349, Creature wrote:Should I flavorclaim?

Probably not a good idea yet

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:42 am

In post 3363, KainTepes wrote:THEN WHY WAS HE STILL TALKING?????????? I HEARD IT WITH MY OWN EYES

Hmmmmm, when was this talking? Because he died at the start of this day.

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:44 am

Did you guys get a Secret safe zone pt Mcdoggo?

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:03 pm

Lol quite the dramatic exit mr tapas

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:28 pm

Id say we should be lynching either davesaz or KlingonCelt today to get a grasp on which faction the scumteam is.

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:29 pm

And Davesaz still feels fishy to me in every way possible

Vecna · Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:07 pm

KLINGONCELT, could you come in here and confirm (Just a yes or no to both will suffice, no other details required) whether you have:

a: Any

GEASS

ability
b: Any

KNIGHTMARE

ability

c: Any

NORMAL

ability BESIDES you being a

NOBLE

Realize that lying will result in a swift execution, we have ways of knowing[/size]

Especially c is of utmost importance. Notice how theres 3 categories of abilities, normal, geass and Knightmare. the people demand to know whether you being a NOBLE is your only normal ability.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:38 am

Its pretty hard to decide between davesaz and KlingonCelt.

The fact Klingon is taking off this rapidly, and the fact Ive had a scumread on Davesaz all game makes it feel to me like were lynching the wrong one of the nobles.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:58 am

In post 3391, Leonshade wrote:Klingon should be the lynch for the day. If there just so happens to be a player with the ability to dispel Geass abilities, I would recommend directing such an ability towards Creature tonight. At this point I think the third scum is Alisae.

Flavor spec:
Klingon = Charles
Creature = V.V.
Alisae = Either anti-freedom Suzaku or a fakeclaim for Bismarck Waldstein or similar.

If Klingon isn't scum, then either Charles isn't even in this game, or one of culted/Creature/McMenno is Charles.

V.V. is either Creature or McMenno, or not in the game (BTD6_Maker for a crackpot third possibility, but I really doubt it).

If Alisae is town, either davesaz or randomidget is the third scum.

Four scum + 3P in a 20p game makes sense, so I'm fairly confident in this theory.

Whats there to dispell on creature you think? Also, why cant Davesaz be Charles?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:59 am

oops already answered. Guess davesaz really just is euphemia unless theres another important female noble.

Do note that Davesaz couldve just whispered the mod to choose his hat colour though.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:01 am

The scumread on Davesaz comes from tone mostly, but its not a very strong scumread. Maybe youre correct after all.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:03 am

In post 3391, Leonshade wrote:Klingon should be the lynch for the day. If there just so happens to be a player with the ability to dispel Geass abilities, I would recommend directing such an ability towards Creature tonight. At this point I think the third scum is Alisae.

Flavor spec:
Klingon = Charles
Creature = V.V.
Alisae = Either anti-freedom Suzaku or a fakeclaim for Bismarck Waldstein or similar.

If Klingon isn't scum, then either Charles isn't even in this game, or one of culted/Creature/McMenno is Charles.

V.V. is either Creature or McMenno, or not in the game (BTD6_Maker for a crackpot third possibility, but I really doubt it).

If Alisae is town, either davesaz or randomidget is the third scum.

Four scum + 3P in a 20p game makes sense, so I'm fairly confident in this theory.

Wait, why do you think Bismarck is scum? Alisae isnt Bismarck at least.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:06 am

Wait....I think I just figured shit out.

Scum = the chinese invasion force.

Davesaz = Empress Tianzi

Malpascp or Alisae = Li Xingke

That would explain why all the britannians are Freedom.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:09 am

Does it make sense for Marianne to be linked to them though?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:15 am

I have no idea if it makes sense, havent seen season 2 yet, just browsing some wiki pages

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:20 am

In post 3403, Leonshade wrote:I'll respond to your points after my lecture but I think you're overthinking things, Vecna. Ocvam's razor says Britannian overlords, unless the major players flip freedom.

You might be right, but I happen to know that bismarck is highly likely to be freedom aligned.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:23 am

Besides, Cornelia/Lloyd are all working for, or part of those overlords. Cornelia flipped freedom, and were assuming now that lloyd is part of the good guys as well because he was giving cool toys to painbringer (who also flipped freedom).

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:24 am

guess ill just have to get to and watch season2 asap for all if this to make sense.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:26 am

Call gm: Could Lelouch have commanded you to lie to everyone/someone when sending pm's of results of night actions?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:27 am

Read the lelouch role pm. What if he commanded the gm to make all scum flip as freedom or something along those lines?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:31 am

oh shit

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:31 am

Call GM - Could he have commanded you to lie about factions from people that died?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:35 am

Tough luck KeyRB, your joke has fooled us for quite some time but were onto you now.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:39 am

ssbm_Kyouko; Unknown aligned with Unknown was Killed Day 1.

Reasonably Rational , Cornelia Li Britannia The Second Princess and The Vice Roy of Area Eleven aligned with

"Freedom"

SCUM Faction was killed Night 1.

Diamond sentinel , Rakshata Chawla aligned with "Freedom" Faction was killed Night 1.
Crystalline Dagger , Shinichiro Tamaki aligned with "Freedom" Faction was lynched day 2.
Aristophanes , Rolo Lamperouge aligned with "Freedom" Faction was killed Night 2.
keyXrb , Lelouch Lamperouge aligned with "Special Zone" Faction was lynched Day 3.
PainBringer , Milly Ashford aligned with "Freedom" Faction was Killed Night 3.
Not Chara, Nunnally Lamperouge aligned with "Freedom" Faction was Killed Night 3.
KainTepes , Mao aligned with "Special Zone" Faction turned into a Natural Survivor and got Modkilled During Day 4.

So....2 scum down is suddenly a possibility

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:52 am

Maybe.....KeyRB (or someone else) redirected their factional kill or alisea.....onto their own teammembers.

Notice that the redirect and his geass are two seperate abilities.

Wouldve been freaking hilarious if he pulled that one off.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:53 am

Davesaz is there any way for you to verify that you have that second normal ability? If so there was a redirect on culted as well, that mustve targeted klingoncelt.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:07 am

In post 2305, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 2303, Painbringer wrote:That doesn't make sense for Kaguya flavor wise.
Nor does it match flavor written.
Here's something strange,

Knight of Cornelia [Active] : Once during the game you may choose one of the loyal people to you as a knight of the realm. They will get the following Knightmare as a gift to be your knight and will receive a message that they are entitled as knight of Cornelia.
Gloucester [Knightmare] :
For The Princess! [Passive] : if any one targets the person your loyal to with knight mares , you will be targeted instead.

Brilliance [Passive] : The person your loyal to can use their normal abilities even if their inside a Knightmare.
What's weird about it is that I don't have anything in my Role PM about people that are loyal to me or the person I'm loyal to. Nothing, just that I'm one of the people in the game that others can be loyal to.

Guess this sort of answers my question.

Damn you KeyRB ~

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:17 am

Thats what I thought as well, but Painbringer still had a single comment scumreading KeyRB when that day started. Not sure if it was just them being defiant to test if the mod would spank them, or if he never got geass'd at all and KeyRB convinced em in their PT.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:17 am

Also, Painbringer stopped scumreading Key D3, not D2.

So lelouch couldve geass'd the mod N1 and Painbringer N2

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:20 am

Is that you confirmed painbringer was in need of spanking?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:20 am

confirming*

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:21 am

In post 3426, Leonshade wrote:They could have also used it N2, since Painbringer was suddenly weird about Key D3. So that does leave an opening for key to Geass someone else N1.

But RR was the scum kill, since Alisae was responsible for the DS death. Why would scum kill one of their own, just to have them flip town?

Tons of redirection mechanics in the game though

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:27 am

Yeah the orange guy is a possibility, but theres another driver that works for the woman

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:55 am

do we now?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:56 am

In post 3443, davesaz wrote:
In post 3418, Vecna wrote:Davesaz is there any way for you to verify that you have that second normal ability? If so there was a redirect on culted as well, that mustve targeted klingoncelt.
Don't know what you mean by a 2nd normal ability. I targeted Creature, and the ability would not interfere with other results if it were redirected elsewhere.

When are you going to do something to show us that youre town though? Because so far im not seeing any of that.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:46 am

So you really are suzaku eh

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:21 am

Everyone in the scumpool is jumping rather quickly onto mr Klingon

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:02 am

Guess it doesnt matter too much atm. If itnflips towb we auto lynch davesaz tomorrow

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:32 pm

In post 3474, Alisae wrote:Or how I didn't get in my knightmare N2 and there wasn't a second death?

Theres plenty of things that could have caused second deaths though.

You could just be the person doing the scum factional kills while the other second kills are caused by any number of things (for example, malpas or Lelouch just commanding people to die.)

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:37 pm

The problem is, if theres still 4 scum alive today might be our last mislynch

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:38 pm

Alisae, does your role pm call you Knight Zero? Or do you have any abilities called like that?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:41 pm

I bet theres going to be some bastard element that happens soon where people get transfered to a different alignment/wincon

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:43 pm

In post 3496, Vecna wrote:Alisae, does your role pm call you Knight Zero? Or do you have any abilities called like that?

The knight of zero*

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:47 pm

Also sort of surprising that Lloyd isnt nobility, since he is an earl.

Potential very elaborate fakeclaim that him and alisae are working on? (unlikely but you never know)

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:48 pm

Yeah him and alisae being scum together makes no sense, disregard that.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:51 pm

Call GM - If Lelouch wouldve given you the geass order "scum flips freedom" or something similair - would you have gone as far as to remove their fakeclaims and change their victory conditions to town as well in the revealed role pm?

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:52 pm

In post 3502, Leonshade wrote:
In post 3483, culted wrote:What makes this game all the more hard to care about is that we really haven't even seen a scumflip yet.

Is klingon at L1?
Three days and we haven't mislynched yet, don't lose hope.

In post 3497, Vecna wrote:I bet theres going to be some bastard element that happens soon where people get transfered to a different alignment/wincon
Zero reason to believe this, especially since we've already seen how alignments can change.

There is a reason to believe this in my role pm, but im not going to go into that.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:54 pm

Yes alisae, thatd be good.

Your knightmare is bulletproof so you can always win a showdown against Malpas is my guess? And he can never kill you while in a bulletproof knightmare?

In fact, I think its a decent plan to have you kill even if we lynch scum.

Id propose this: If klingoncelt is scum, shoot Malpas.

If Kingoncelt is town, shoot Davesaz or malpas (but preferably davesaz I think)

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:54 pm

In post 3506, Leonshade wrote:
In post 3495, Vecna wrote:The problem is, if theres still 4 scum alive today might be our last mislynch
Then there were those four scum, and a Universal PGO scum and Lelouch in this game. Really doubt it unless scum cam recruit.

Yeah true, that does seem like overkill

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:56 pm

Oh if Klingon flips scum, McDog might not be the worst kill either.

Worse than malpas I think though.

Either way, we should come to a unanimous decision on who gets got.

Vecna · Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:01 pm

In post 3513, Alisae wrote:Being a vig...
God I dunno what to do ;~;

Theres no reason NOT to go into your knightmare is there?

Vecna · Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:04 am

In post 3519, Leonshade wrote:No idea what you're planning Alisae, but go for it.

If key had Geassed "scum flips freedom", why did he flip his wincon?

Because he wasnt mafia-type scum but 3rd faction type. Probably something in the wording? (IF he did it that is)

Vecna · Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:05 am

Or maybe because he had become a new third faction so he wasnt part of the order given.

Its limited to three words, so getting any accurate all-encompassing order across wouldve probably been difficult.

Vecna · Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:16 am

Guess we might as well hammer this so no replacement is needed

Vecna · Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:16 am

VOTE: klingoncelt

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:16 am

What the hell is going on in this game.

Ok so either Loyd got redirected or he willingly gave his knightmares to Yume who we want to kill?

Malpascp is suddenly talking again and talking about geass? What caused this?

Leonshade force-replace....what? And the replace is there ready to go within the hour? Almost smells like some weird bastard mechanic.

Yume lived after Alisea told us very sternly he would kill her. Doctor ability seems most likely since he couldnt be redirected/stopped

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:21 am

Hmmm what if Leon's force replace had to do with him disobeying a Geass command?

Like the mod commanded him to act a certain way, but he didnt obey so he got replaced?

Mr replacement; Blink twice if you are forced to act a certain way against your will

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:30 am

I actually do agree with RM this smells like scum-creature

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:32 am

The scumteam here is:
Creature
Yume
McMenno

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:03 am

Who did you try to pledge loyalty to lloyd? Because redirection mechanisms should only work during the night...

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:21 pm

GM: Once someone is pledged to a person, can linked abilities that trigger during the night as a result still be redirected?

Example: Lloyd was pledged to culted/Davesaz. During the night he visits that person to hand over big Knightmares. Can the visit to hand over knightmares be redirected?

Lloyd/BTD6: Who did you pledge loyalty to? If the gm answers yes to the above question this is IMPORTANT.

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:22 pm

Unvote creature untill this is resolved.

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:22 pm

I think I know what happened.

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:45 pm

Anyways seeing how Yume/KlingonCelt still must have had a non-geass non-Knightmare ability DaveSaz was lying about his abilities earlier.

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:56 pm

Call GM - So these effects can be redirected AND WILL STILL HAVE THEIR EFFECT even if your not loyal to the person youre being redirected to?

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:00 pm

Call GM - To reprhase: Can PASSIVE abilities that activate on the person your loyal to be redirected?

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:51 pm

Paraphrasing a pm from FA: Abilities that have a passive effect on the person your loyal to -could- be redirected if there were abilities that redirect passives. -_-

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:52 pm

THE TOWN PEOPLE DEMAND THAT MCMENNO FULL CLAIMS OR DIES

Vecna · Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:56 pm

All of you voting creature: UN-VOTE

He is not scum. There is no way on EARTH we are lynching him today.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:04 am

I have solved the game almost.

YUME: Schneizl, but NOT REALLY. He is actually CHARLES
MCMENNO: Fuck the flavourclaim, he is V.V., aka Charles' brother.

The last scum is either

BTD6

(if he gave the knightmares to YUME voluntarily, OR it is

CULTED THE DECEIVER

.

Culted has an ability that lets him redirect abilities. If BTD6 became loyal to CULTED, culted wouldve known and couldve redirected the KNIGHTMARES to YUME. If culted is still town, BTD6 just became loyal to YUME because theyre scum together. Culted also knows im loyal to him, so if his ability allows the redirection of PASSIVES he could have also redirected my PROTECTION onto YUME.

Yes im a doctor on whoever im Loyal to.

Yes I am CC. I have a rolecop that shows everything except knightmares and Geas abilities.

I also have a loverize geass, which is why i visited painbringer.

I removed Geass from malpascp last night because I suspected he was under a geass effect. Hopefully it wasnt a waste, but it mightve been.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:51 am

In post 3638, McMenno wrote:kaname ohgi 1-shot bulletproof

LIES

VOTE: McMenno

Your one ability is IMMORTAL: Cannot be killed at night

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:53 am

We are lynching Mcmenno today.

Use his flip to deduce whether he could have been the one to save Yume/Charles. This is the most likely explenation. According to the wiki it was V.V. that gave charles the GEASS of immortality, so McMenno most likely has an ability that saved YUME.

UNVOTE CREATURE, HANG MCMENNO

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:54 am

Ill have the mod confirm my identity. I will soon be revealed as ZERO, which should confirm me as CC to anyone knowing the show flavour. I have an ability to put on zero's mask. Anyone that knows the show knows that CC did put on zero's mask on a few occasions.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:06 am

Things that need to happen today:

-Full claim on -everyone-, both FLAVOUR and ALL Abilities

. I am a rolecop and I still have some unrevealed targets left. Ill tell you all the lyars to be hung tomorrow. Culted still has some FLAVOUR cop results, so we'll also know who lies about that.

-LLOYDSBM6 needs to hardclaim WHO he is loyal to, and who he tried to give the Knightmares to. The claimed person needs to confirm/deny whether SBM6 is indeed loyal to them.

-DAVESAZ needs to hardclaim what those 2 investigations he has are about.

-CREATURE should out whatever information he has.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:08 am

Also, MALPASCP has to get into his KNIGHTMARE.

CULTED needs to proclaim loyalty to DAVESAZ or YUME. No more excuses.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:17 am

Ok this is what I suspect that has happened:

V.V. being McMenno protected Yume, being Charles, last night from death using some sort of Geass/immortality type of ability.
CULTED, being BISMARCK, Knight of one, BODYGUARD TO THE KING (my rolecop revealed this to be the name of one of his abilities), REDIRECTED lloyd to give all his KNIGHTMARES to YUME.

YUME: I SUSPECT has an ability that makes him lynchproof while his bodyguard is still alive. NOTICE HOW MCMENNO WANTED TO VOTE HIM AGAIN TODAY.

Either this, or SBM6/LLOYD is scum and voluntarily gave his knightmares to YUME. BUT this makes a lot less sense than BISMARCK being scum. Also notice how scum never tried to kill the people that were sprouting out investigative reports like me and culted have been doing.

WE LYNCH MCMENNO TODAY (9 people remaining after this, 8 after the scum nightkill)
MALPASCP DESTROYS KNIGHTMARES ON YUME Tonight - Noone else uses knightmares
TOMORROW: LYNCH CULTED (7 people remaining, 6 after nightkill)
DAY AFTER: LYNCH YUME, unless culted flipped town - in which case you lynch SBM6 and YUME DAY AFTER.

>> Follow this and I believe we have FREEDOM AUTO-WIN <<

My job here is done

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:19 am

Be carefull not to use any more killing shit that can be redirected. All vigs were apparently town-sided. Dont ruin this by doing dumb shit and this win is in the bag.

Unless my theory has some big hole in it somewhere we cannot loose this anymore.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:21 am

Full claims first now. And unvote Creature

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:48 am

sux2bu scum

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:41 am

Yume, I want a full overview of all your abilities, in a list like this please:

-ability name 1: description

-ability name 2: description

-geass ability name 1: description

-geass ability name2: description

-knightmare name 1

-knightmare name 2

-knightmare name 3

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:42 am

Make sure u dont literally copy/paste it though. Or maybe do so the mod can modkill you and we just get this over with

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:46 am

Sorry frozen

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:47 am

Kindly requesting all scum to suicide. You have that ability. Aknowledge that I caught you and just go mass seppuku

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:48 am

Its what royalty do after all, and youre all royal britannians and all.

Dignified suicide or common lynching by a mob. The choice is yours.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:50 am

Yume, that still doesnt mean u cannot out your abilities and names of all your Knightmares.

But then again, you just stole all of Suzaku's Knightmares ofcourse.....which you killed using your scum factional kill.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:09 am

Forgetting the noble ability im guessing?

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:14 am

Alright thank you for your cooperation, you -might- yet be telling the truth - but it is as of yet to be determined.

At any rate if youre lying your fake-claim seems to be of much higher quality than those held by Lelouch and V.V.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:14 am

Were not hammering yet untill im done with my thorough investigation.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:17 am

DAVESAZ, it is your turn to make an appearance and face the firing squad

Do not lie about any of these answers under any circumstance

You stated earlier that you had some sort of investigative ability, and that you had 2 results. You also stated this was not caused by a geass or knightmare ability.

Can you confirm whether the above;
-IS TRUE
-AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES/RESULTS of said ability are

Another question:
Did you silently pm the GM about your hat, or did your hat default?

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:23 am

UNVOTE: McMenno

Unvoting for now since Yume is likely a double-voter.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:24 am

Yes ofcourse it is culted....especially since that would mean that scum didnt have any factional kill last night. While theyve had one every single night.....

Well I guess it is possible that they tried to kill suzaku as well ofcourse to steal his Knightmares.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:34 am

Yume, you didnt get all those things as "gifts". You got them because you killed Suzaku.

either willingly because youre scum and you performed the scum nightkill

Or unwillingly because youre actually town and all that which youre describing is true.

The knightmares are transfered upon death. Youre probably going to die tonight if youre town so scum can use all your stuff.

Suzaku had two of the three knightmares that you have now. Lloyd probably gave him another one, after which he suicided on you, or got killed by you....which means you took all of his possessions.

So one of them gives you double-voting, one gives you bulletproof....what does the third one do? Is there one that allows you to kill anyone?

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:39 am

Call GM: the game opening post talks about the ordering of night actions. Does the scum factional/night kill count as a normal ability?

Suzaku killing someone counted as a knightmare ability. The ability that prevents its death as described by Yume is a normal ability. so far im correct right?

What order would these 3 things process as? (nightkill/suzaku kill with his knightmare/schneizels' defensive ability that saves him and kills the attacker

Is the scum factional kill really last in this order of things?

Sorry for the advanced questions, hope I made myself clear and you can answer it.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:40 am

In post 3675, Yume wrote:No, it gives me a redirecting ability......something like a modified lightning rod.

You can direct abilities to yourself? Just from one player or from all players?

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:48 am

That answers my question, thank you. And I had no intention of tricking you or baiting you....just wanted to make sure that the story Yume is telling could be the truth.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:54 am

In post 3678, Creature wrote:I'm Jeremiah Gottwald

My only active ability is that I can change the person I am loyal to how much I want (though only once per day). Though, I never used this ability yet.

I have a passive ability that protects me from all Geass powers in the game, even if I am inside a knightmare.

I also have another passive ability that will stop any Geass power they have, clear the current active Geass powers on them and protect them from any Geass power.

At Night 3 I got a Galahad, which protects me from two kill attempts.

Also at Night 3 I got titled as Knight of Nunnaly, which makes me someone others can be loyal to.

This would be a claim that id count as super-town (even though he was a bodyguard of marianne before). Do not lynch this slot

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:56 am

Creature, can you provide the names of the abilities maybe? Those have been quite convenient so far to figure stuff out.

Also, as what culted says - does one of those abilities affect the person your loyal to?

Thank you for claiming on short notice.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:56 am

Damnit culted, youre making it so hard to scumread you haha.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:00 am

Yume could be telling the truth.

Mcmenno wanted to vote her again straight out of the gate today, and he was the one that hammered her yesterday.

The only reason Yume should be voted tomorrow if Mcmenno flips with some ability that couldve been blatantly used to save Yume.

Yume...Who are you loyal to?

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:07 am

Who have you been loyal to so far this game?

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:10 am

ah right ofcourse

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:13 am

id like to see the other 2 claims, and davesaz's answers before decided what the best targets are. You guys mind waiting for that for a bit?

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:19 am

Davesaz and Thinkbig are the most important ones that I need to hear from.

Btd has shared everything we need to hear I think. Randommidget said he might have some investigative results though.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:34 am

In post 3668, Vecna wrote:
DAVESAZ, it is your turn to make an appearance and face the firing squad

Do not lie about any of these answers under any circumstance

You stated earlier that you had some sort of investigative ability, and that you had 2 results. You also stated this was not caused by a geass or knightmare ability.

Can you confirm whether the above;
-IS TRUE
-AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES/RESULTS of said ability are

Another question:
Did you silently pm the GM about your hat, or did your hat default?

So he doesnt have the excuse of glossing over it.

Randommidget, fullclaim (flavour/abilities/results) please <3
Same for Leonshade's replacement please (ill learn your name one of these days, i promise).

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:06 am

Hmm seems ive finally figured out how the story relates. Bad guys are the geass directorate, maybe there really only is 2 scum (charles + vv). It would explain why cornelia was freedom alligned, since she does attack vv at some point.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:46 am

In post 3711, davesaz wrote:
In post 3668, Vecna wrote:
DAVESAZ, it is your turn to make an appearance and face the firing squad

Do not lie about any of these answers under any circumstance

You stated earlier that you had some sort of investigative ability, and that you had 2 results. You also stated this was not caused by a geass or knightmare ability.

Can you confirm whether the above;
-IS TRUE
-AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES/RESULTS of said ability are

Another question:
Did you silently pm the GM about your hat, or did your hat default?
I claimed to have a non-geass / non-knightmare ability and who my targets were, but did not state it is an investigative. In fact it is not primarily investigative, though its effects can be used indirectly for that purpose depending on circumstances. The ability can still currently be used for its primary purpose, and I'd like to keep that under wraps. If you really insist then fine, but I'll hold off...

I defaulted the hat color, having correctly guessed that it was a loverize and not wanting to get linked to scum that way.

I do insist.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:53 am

Also why wouldnt you want to get linked to scum? You only claim to have 1 ability besides being a noble.....That would make you the ideal candidate to sacrefise yourself to kill scum.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:53 am

In post 3720, McMenno wrote:well vecna

are you results 100% guaranteed to be accurate

Yes

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:00 am

In post 3716, culted wrote:Vecna where did mcmenno lie about his flavor?

Or are you just guessing that he's charles for no reason?

He lied about his ability. He's V.V.

His ability is called IMMORTAL. Not bullet proof. It also works differently. Only 2 characters in the show are immortal, VV and the emperor after V.V. gives him the immortality Geass.

Both are the scum we've been looking for.

McMenno is confirmed scum

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:25 pm

In post 3724, malpascp wrote:Wait you have a result saying that McMenno has an ability called Immortal? lmao

Correct, he cannot die at night. Thats why were lynching his ass since he also got caught in a lie, and he is V.V. the scumlord.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:28 pm

In post 3725, davesaz wrote:Peace Keeper. It's a role block that only blocks killing abilities.

Id ask you who you used it on but im done playing games.

Youre also caught in a lie since you have no such ability. You shouldve realized holding on to your fake-claim isnt a good idea when the rolecop is doing his rounds.

Euphemia = fakeclaim. Davesaz = the emperor.

He whispered the mod for a pink hat

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:39 pm

Ok here is the plan of action as id like to see it happen:

Culted: ill give you instructions in our hood

Creature: Please become loyal to DAVESAZ. The emperor is flavoured to have a lot of strong GEASS abilities, and your ability should stop him from using these if I understand it correctly.

Since I also am an immortal witch I cannot die, unless the person im loyal to gets killed - in which case I will die with them. so now scum will have to either guess who im loyal to or try and make a decent kill.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:41 pm

Im suspecting that the emperor had something to do with Leonshade disappearing on us and getting force-replaced in the way he did.

In the show the emperor has an ability that lets him erase someone's memories and put new ones in his head.....maybe thats why Leonshade suddenly got force-replaced. Either because the replacement is a puppet under mod / emperor controll, or because he didnt act according to the new rules set out by the geass that was put on him.

Wishing now I hadnt wasted the geass removal on Malpas :<

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:52 pm

Also guys, take note of this:

All fake-claims have been rather simple. People with one ability and maybe a noble.

McMenno just provided us with a very simple fake-claim with only BP

KeyRB had a simple fakeclaim with just nobility and a knightmare

Davesaz is claiming to just be noble with some weak roleblock

These were all fake-claims, with a simple design.

What Yume is claiming is NOT simple. I think Yume might be town after-all and he should not be a priority lynch yet. Creature should just become Loyal to YUME tomorrow while you lynch DAVESAZ. This makes sure that even if im wrong, the emperor will only get 1 more usage max out of his geass abilities. I doubt Yume came up with all those names for abilities by just going over the wiki and picking random ones for his flying fortress and some nuclear missile though.....Maybe those names were in his fake-claim if im wrong, but I somewhat doubt it.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:52 pm

Creature should become Loyal to YUME tomorrow while you lynch DAVESAZ

Do not lynch Yume tomorrow if I do die. Lynch DaveSaz no matter what.

Vecna · Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:53 pm

Thinkbig it is time for you to full-claim

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:38 am

Hmmm anyways Thinkbig is VLA untill sometime today so I guess we have to wait a bit more untill he can claim.

He did use a knightmare last night so I do want to know his claim before we take any action.

Anyone have any further questions/suggestions about my proposed course of action?

I would really like everyone to be clear about what I discovered so that if scum do figure out who im loyal to and kill both of us, that I have at least laid out am understandable roadmap to victory.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:59 am

Ill try Yume, but its a habit that is hard to beat

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:55 am

In post 3739, ThinkBig wrote:Hey all, wanted to do some worn on this last night but got behind. You should hear a lot more from me tonight. The two biggest wagons seem to be Creature and McMeno. I'll be ISOing then and reading them later tonight.

@Vecna, I'm not claiming today. I'll claim either tomorrow or day 7.

You HAVE to claim today. Everyone has, youre no exception

I am confirmed town. Scum allready know youre likely to have an investigative. Were in the endgame with either the entire scumteam revealed or one of them still out there.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:58 am

As for catching you up:

The lynch order for the next 2 days is already decided. Were just waiting for you to full claim.
McMenno is confirmed scum by a rolecop confirmed as town
Davesaz is confirmed scum by a rolecop confirmed as town

If the game is not over after this, the likely last scum is either you or Culted.

Hence you have to claim today in case I die.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:28 am

Theres no roleblocks reported and the fact youve allready claimed youre that powerfull puts a target on your back all the same.

Everyone is a super-overpowered role in this game - if you think youre more likely to die check my post where I claimed all my abilities and think again.

By not claiming youre also forcing me to waste a rolecop on you which id much rather use elsewhere.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:49 am

Perfect.

Can you claim your flavour as well?

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:03 am

The only way its incorrect information if:
-either davesaz or the mod is lying.....

-OR i got redirected to yume, who is lying, has no abilities, had some ither means to survive kuzaku, and had some other means to kill kuzaku in his bulletproof knightmare.

I guess lynching mcmenno will tell us some interesting things.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:05 am

But yeah, the likelyhood of all that stuff happening is really really small since it requires like 5 different unlikely succesive events to take place.

That combined with the fact that davesaz has not shown any desire to gamesolve anything makes me completely fine calling him confirmed scum

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:11 am

Creature and culted, as soon as u guys confirm that your loyal to the persons i asked you to be loyal to, let us know.

Still woild like a flavourclaim and the names of his abilities from leonsahdes replacement

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:27 am

no, go on davesaz

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:28 am

look for McMenno's scumflip and look if theres anything there that couldve saved Yume in case she's (yes i did it!) fakeclaiming her abilities.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:56 am

Were not lynching Yume in the foreseeable future.

Lynch order is McMenno > Davesaz > Yume (and yume only if by some miracle davesaz is town).

Mcmenno flipping with some geass that could have saved yume and killed his attacker would change this though.

Thinkbig's claim sounds very off to me as well, but Leon was towning it up hard, so.....yeah.

I think creature/RM/Sbm6 their claims all appear very truthfull.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:58 pm

In post 3761, Creature wrote:My loyalty is still to davesaz, right?

I want to confirm I won't do shit.

Yes be loyal to davesaz so he cannot use any geass abilities during the night.

Tomorrow use your ability to switch to Yume while you lynch Davesaz.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:59 pm

In post 3763, ThinkBig wrote:VOTE: McMenno

If this flips town, I want vecna lynched. No question at all. I have a fairly strong town read on vecna and a scum read on McMeno, even without the guilty.

I'll be posting more tonight.

I think youre forgetting the part where im mod-confirmed to be town.

And I still wanna see your full-claim with flavour and the names of your abilities please before we hammer.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:44 pm

In post 3768, ThinkBig wrote:I counter claim McMeno. I am kaname ohgi

Was already surprised there was no Ohgi....

Mcmenno claiming the role of someone else instead of a fakeclaim.....seems very suspicious though.

You just got yourself on my radar ThinkBig.

Think very carefully whether you really want to claim the Ohgi flavour.

We all allready know that McMenno is going to flip V.V. so all youre doing is signing you own death warrant if youre caught in a lie here.

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:45 pm

In post 3767, McMenno wrote:
In post 1, Frozen Angel wrote:1. I guarantee that whenever I use Blue Violet (#8A2BE2) as my color, there is no lie in that sentence. There are no lies in game opening posts or pm's.
did she use blue violet?

was crystalline dagger town, vecna? or your scumbuddy?

my claim is

kaname ohgi

not finished yet (passive): first time I would die at night, instead I don't, I'm notified of this

freedom

changing your claim to that instead of freedom?

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:45 pm

instead of bulletproof**

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:49 pm

In post 3768, ThinkBig wrote:I counter claim McMeno. I am kaname ohgi

Its gonna be so hilarious if McMenno now flips revealing that Ohgi is his fakeclaim. you know youre pretty much confirmed as his desperate scumteam partner if that happens right?

Vecna · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:52 pm

Haha Menno. I do like your fighting spirit.

Your time is better spent figuring out who redirected me onto themselves if youre really town because youre going to hang regardless of what happens.