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The way both hopped on based on a non-existent slip is very scummy, but I'm not sure scum would group their votes so close.

Gamma is hoping for the town credit when Naomi flips town, and is trying to set up another mislynch for D2.

VOTE: Gamma

In post 525, Gamma Emerald wrote:The way both hopped on based on a non-existent slip is very scummy, but I'm not sure scum would group their votes so close.

I wouldn't call it non-existent.

In post 525, Gamma Emerald wrote:The way both hopped on based on a non-existent slip is very scummy, but I'm not sure scum would group their votes so close.

Non existent

I mean it's not actually a slip.

scumGamma doesn't interact with the people who scumread him, like I am right now. He flakes. ISO him in micro 665 (on my wiki) for more information.

In post 529, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean it's not actually a slip.

I disagree

Okay now I'm out of my game of league here is why I said given. If you was red and I had said "as its unlikely reds have day talk" it would of shown weakness and unsureness and given you an opportunity to take advantage of the situation by not answering my question (which you neglected to answer instead opting to chainsaw IIRC) I wanted to put you off footing and to get you to show if you was red or green. Given that a green would of acted as if what I said was offencive and silly while a red would more likely backout of it. Given you flipped it around on one word it became NAI as if a red spotted I said given They could make this wagon just as easily. The fact that I was making an agressive move acted aganist me here and I understand that I should of said Likely given or some other thing that acknowledged the existence of a role.

Everypost their after was purely to try and get you off your focused word. I used given on an assumption that reds don't have day talk. Beacuse at the time I made an assumption that reds don't have day talk. and I used that to given the possible situations in my head. Which went as follows;

Red having day talk and me and Alisae being red; No need to put my neck out in the main thread as I could of walked them through how to back down or stopped there push ealier.
Red having day talk and me and Alisae not being on the same team. White knighting
Red not having day talk and me and Alisae being red; Being so obvious would make it really easy for greens to get two kills off of a misslynch
Red not having day talk and me being red and Alisae being green; white knighting
Red not having day talk me being green and Alisae being red; I just saved a red woops.
Red not having day talk and me and Alisae being green; I saved someone in trouble.

While white knighting may be a thing. There is no way to prove defending someone is a White knight situation. if you go back to my read list;

Alisae >> Feels like miss guided Green If I had to guess there the type of player that takes a little to form an idea but once its there it sticks for a while. This isn't a bad thing but I feel there pushes are miss guided and go on slightly longer than needed and I feel that they should revaluate more often.

I already said I thought they was being a bad green player and that they 'need to revalute more often' as in take a step back and go 'is this red or just bad for me' then I saw they wasn't doing that and flailing more and more lashing out at anyone and I stepped into stop them. before they self destructed. Is this white knighting is the question. I say no, if your reading someone as bad green and they are being so obvious bad green but are just digging themselves a hole stepping in is one of the ways to avoid them getting miss lynched.

Afterwards I saw Gray try to flip things on me. Which would been fine, but he said I white knighted.. To me white knighting is steping into save someone green aligned when you have shown little or no thoughts that they are green. This is not the case here so I wished to reverse his push on me to pressure them back. This would helped others determine both our alignments as It was a thing I was sure wouldn't go more than a couple of pages as honestly. I didn't wanna lynch them and I felt they saw me as kinda green leaning at the time. Turns out I in my boldness made a misstake as I was getting into the pushing mood. Now you may be wondering. If I've done this kinda thing before and yes I have. If you go back a couple town games to the first game I adopted the colour system I called Town blue. As a town player. I have also made other mistakes while in the moment as TF can confirm (mort push last game, and the other 180's you've seen me do)

I'm not always right. But I know when I have to back out of a mistake that I made and be honest about it. which is why after saying it was an assumption (because it was) I more in depth explained why I used given. I assumed at the time that there was no day talk and when it was brought up I admitted that It was the wrong choice of words. I choose it because it made my point more bold and I shouldn't have.

I am going to keep dealing with the white knight stuff but this one word mistake thing, yeah I'm just gonna put that aside like I did a while ago. sure it'll shade people to me for a while but I expect it'll get me investigated and green confirmed later on.

In post 530, Human Sequencer wrote:scumGamma doesn't interact with the people who scumread him, like I am right now. He flakes. ISO him in micro 665 (on my wiki) for more information.

How about you give me time to interact instead of trying to make my play look like shit.

That wall talks about the thoughts on the white knighting and the final full explanation about the given usage.

Your play isn't shit. It's scummy as fuck.

Defending at all costs = White-Knighting regardless of alignment.

Well I don't care: you obviously have some form of chip on your shoulder, whether your town or scum is still to be determined.

If its in the guidelines of normal and wasn't stated in the OP then its evidently not in the game. That's a long ass stretch saying its a slip.

I'm not fighting word choice here, tell me the logic in why a townie would think there is day chat?

Cuz its common and encryptors are explicitly normal.

In post 536, Ircher wrote:Defending at all costs = White-Knighting regardless of alignment.

defending at all costs? at no point did anyone other than Gray say I was looking red from it. I felt there was little risk to myself. the fact it worked only proves that Alisae wanted an out that I then provided.

It was a white-knight just like I did earlier with Gamma.

This is where I'm at.
Town
{Naomi, Grey, All Alone, Alisae, Ircher}

Kinda town
{TwoFace, RainbowDash}

Null
{Flubbernugget, Krylea}

Kinda scummy
{Gin, Asphodel}

Lynch Now
{Gamma}

Subject: Mini Normal 1841 - At The End... (GAME OVER)

Dunnstral wrote:scum have an encryptor

This is past experience with daytalk spec. My reaction was not to go "scumslip you know too much", it was to question the statement and see if it came from scum.

so that's how you get the autolinked topics

In post 541, Ircher wrote:It was a white-knight just like I did earlier with Gamma.

Not really. no one was linking us. I town read someone and stepped into save them. I've done it before and I'll do it again. finding bad greens is something i like to do this game feels pretty simple to me right now. Okay lets approach this from a new angle. If i'm white knighting and am red. Who are my team mates?

I was linking the two of you. It was clearly a white-knight.

And, I avoid pre-flip assoc. tells cuz they're bound to be wrong. Talk to me about Two Face.

TF's vote seems more honest than Grey's.
VOTE: Grey

Okay lets get stop Alisae killing themselves.

Alisae - Okay I know your prob reading this and have gone quiet as you don't know what to make of things. but you should not join my wagon. If you join right now and I flip green they will go back to hounding you and if I flip red they will say that you are my red buddy and joined late as you couldn't see me talking my way out of things and want the green credit.