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Hiraki (4): Lil Uzi Vert, MisaTange, Joshz, Gamma Emerald
Creeps20 (3): ScumDeersAreVeryTasty, Hiraki, Aristophanes
havingfitz (2): TwoFace, Vedith
Lil Uzi Vert (1): TheseViolentDelights
TwoFace (1): havingfitz
ScumDeersAreVeryTasty (1): Creeps20

No Vote (1): FrankJaeger

With 13 players living, 7 votes are required to lynch.


(expired on 2016-12-05 16:30:00)


Seeking replacement for TheseViolentDelights
Prodded MisaTange
Deadline extended a further 24 hours at this time
Gamma Emerald V/LA until 16 December (normal activity/prod requirements will apply)

VOTE: scumdeers

what is your plan if creeps flips town? its a complete waste of a lynch. he is nai lynchbait.

also im voting hiraki what??? i guess that was eric

Why is Deers scum?

i explained it in my last post a bit but

i know its weird for such little content but io is REALLY scummy to me. deers has not done anything to change my mind. i consider him null or maybe slightly on the scum side, but coupled with io that changes.

In post 6, Io wrote:VOTE: Wyv

Statistically one of those replacements is scum.

In post 10, Io wrote:I mean you have to take into account the reason for replacement.
Replacement for inactivity is very different from replacing out.
Theoretically the former is however many scum to town there are.

In post 12, Io wrote:Of which is a rd of the player list that replaced out so yeah statistics show 1's probably scum.

In post 19, Io wrote:

In post 18, MisaTange wrote:I just realized the link GE gave hasn't been updated in 6 years (and if there's an updated version, I don't see it)

It's hard to say (and I don't think we have a user in this game that's been playing since 2010), but I think it's safe to say that meta has changed since 2010.

Especially

in such an "it's your playstyle" type genre such as mafia.

It also said it was often ignored.

In post 188, Io wrote:

In post 100, TheseViolentDelights wrote:

@IO: In your #6 and #10 are you being serious? Like do you plan on actually voting based on those statistics? Or do you have impressions of the game so far?

Nah I'm not that stupid. Like someone said you could say that on any 4 players you pick.

in what world are these townie posts

In post 651, Joshz wrote:VOTE: scumdeers

what is your plan if creeps flips town? its a complete waste of a lynch. he is nai lynchbait.

also im voting hiraki what??? i guess that was eric

Should Creeps flip town, I will reevaluate my reads as they will be obviously off-base, and find Scum D2.
Obviously.

And it's not a complete waste if he's antitown, which atm I believe he is at the very least.

VOTE: Unvote

Need to read the thread and catch up tomorrow. I am at game night with friends.

In post 657, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Unvote

Need to read the thread and catch up tomorrow. I am at game night with friends.

Yoooooo!

We town together? Let's get along this time!

In post 658, Aristophanes wrote:

In post 657, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Unvote

Need to read the thread and catch up tomorrow. I am at game night with friends.

Yoooooo!

We town together? Let's get along this time!

TBH I should be saying this.

@Aristophanes I am town dunno about you but I hope so.

@Gamma yeah

Honestly we both could. Aristophanes called my scumreads wtf worthy (I don't remember if you were scum or not sorry)
And last game with Gamma I was scum.

So here is to a better game for all since I am town.

Just got home from game night and super late just wanted to say thanks for the well wishes.

@Math, yeah I was town the last time.

OK...TVD town read read deonstructed:

I liked his Post 34. Looked like he was not playing superficially.

I liked his Post 41 and subsequent posts (up through Post 95discussing it. I did not think Ari's entrance to the game was the greatest so I was of a like mind as TVD on the subject.

I liked his Post 99. Questioning Ari's vote on me. I know I'm town. TVD giving someone flak for voting me FMPOV comes across town. He also goes on in the same post to question Ari about not being a fan of Hiraki...someone else I'm town reading (more on that later). TVD is equaling town IMO.

He continues to press Io in I liked his Post 100 about his D1 stats chat...something I was legitimately opposed to. Like minded again.

His vote on LUV in hindsight was on town so that is the worst thing he did while he was here IMO. But according to Two Face that's NAI. Regardless of his suspicions towards LUV the comments above outweighed the LUV IMO.

Hence TVD t the top of page 8 less than 24 hours into the game was a town read for me. And as he didn't post any more content aside from a v/LA and an I'll be back after I townread him...my read has not changed.

Hiraki next...

In post 660, MathBlade wrote:@Aristophanes I am town dunno about you but I hope so.

@Gamma yeah

Honestly we both could. Aristophanes called my scumreads wtf worthy (I don't remember if you were scum or not sorry)
And last game with Gamma I was scum.

So here is to a better game for all since I am town.

Just got home from game night and super late just wanted to say thanks for the well wishes.

I was referring to Watch Dogs Blitz.

Hiraki town read read deonstructed:

I've played with Hiraki several times before and like him as a player. I think he is a good attribute for town to have when he is town so I think I tend to think of him as town until he proves me otherwise.

I liked his Post 70 giving Ari a little heat on Ari's softcrumb. I didn't care for the softcrumb either so we were likeminded on it.

I liked his Post 91 civing his reasoning for voting LUV (yes...I realize LUV later claimed mason). I was especially critical of LUV (in my mind at least ) for point 3 that Hiraki mentions. Likeminded.

His Post 98 was ok for early game.

I think the town read I gave to Hiraki in my Post 178 was an early stage pass on a player I like playing with who had made a few comments I agreed with and who at that point had not done anything to make me not town read him.

Up to my post Post 349 I think the worst thing Hiraki had done was his vote on LUV. Which...he seemed very committed to. I do not see a player with Hiraki's experience being such a strong advocate for a (in hindsight of the claim) mislynch. I think he would be smarter than that. Also defending Eric as adamently as he did. While I did disagree with him on this...unless the were scum partners (Hiraki and Eric) I do not see a scum Hiraki going to the trouble he went to to defend Eric as a VI. Which I in fact questioned him on.

That's about it. Since my Post 349 TVD had provided no content before his recent replacement and I was too engaged with TF to notice anything Hiraki was doing.

But at least up to Post 349 I am still good with how I stood on them both.

In post 655, Joshz wrote:

In post 6, Io wrote:VOTE: Wyv

Statistically one of those replacements is scum.

In post 10, Io wrote:I mean you have to take into account the reason for replacement.
Replacement for inactivity is very different from replacing out.
Theoretically the former is however many scum to town there are.

In post 12, Io wrote:Of which is a rd of the player list that replaced out so yeah statistics show 1's probably scum.

In post 19, Io wrote:

In post 18, MisaTange wrote:I just realized the link GE gave hasn't been updated in 6 years (and if there's an updated version, I don't see it)

It's hard to say (and I don't think we have a user in this game that's been playing since 2010), but I think it's safe to say that meta has changed since 2010.

Especially

in such an "it's your playstyle" type genre such as mafia.

It also said it was often ignored.

In post 188, Io wrote:

In post 100, TheseViolentDelights wrote:

@IO: In your #6 and #10 are you being serious? Like do you plan on actually voting based on those statistics? Or do you have impressions of the game so far?

Nah I'm not that stupid. Like someone said you could say that on any 4 players you pick.

in what world are these townie posts

In post 651, Joshz wrote:VOTE: scumdeers

what is your plan if creeps flips town? its a complete waste of a lynch. he is nai lynchbait.

also im voting hiraki what??? i guess that was eric

I think Joshz is scum potentially with Creeps.

Either way moving a wagon off to a vanity wagon with so little time left is sketchy. And who the hell is Eric?

In post 312, Gamma Emerald wrote:PARTNER NOW!

This post is horrible. Doubting a mason claim is one thing but suggesting outing a partner is worse.

I like Gamma and JoshZ as a team. In the last game we played together Gamma was more forceful with me about reads and such. Now he plays nice with JoshZ and is only forceful on the mason claim.

So I like Creeps JoshZ and Gamma as the scumteam after catching up.

Why would I be pushing for my buddies lynch when it's extremely easy to call him bad town?

You aren't. you're voting Hiraki.

Unless of course Hiraki is your buddy and I had it wrong?

Yes I'm voting Hiraki NOW but I WAS voting Creeps.

With a weakass excuse of "compromise" to move off. If anything we should be compromising to Hiraki or Creeps not vanity wagons like you and Josh did.

Day one lynches on scum are fucking hard.Compromises will almost always end up in town D1. Compromising from Creeps to Hiraki looks like an excuse to not bus.