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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:56 am

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Why? Gamma feels like scum trying to lurk out the day and his flip scum or not should make it obvious who is town and who isn't.
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:04 am

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cause empking is bleeding scum. not a single post he's made makes me think he could be town.
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:08 am

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We still have a mislynch left right?

Could everyone else just weigh in? I know this game is boring but the silence is disturbing and ultimately not helpful. If King flips town, who's scum? If Gamma flips town, who's scum?
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:13 am

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There's too many unknowns in this game still. Ari and Sonia in particular.
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:15 am

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It be easier if we just had one scum left but we have fucking two. I just want to flip the slot that would give the town the most information here before I die.
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:17 am

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In about 1 days I'll basically be useless so we need to figure things out sooner than later.

Why does gamma make sense as partner when fitz was trying to push on gamma? Fitz has said in another game where he was town that he doesn't bus unless he absolutely hasn't to.

I don't think he was in the "absolutely have to" phase day 1 when other townies were viable options.
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:18 am

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10 days, not 1
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:24 am

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It's not about whether it makes sense, it's about Gamma's play. Excluding him asking me claim because for me personally I'm not going to scum read him for that, he's done nothing that makes me want to TR him. Every time I sit and make a reads list, I'm always going back to PoE him as scum. That's a red flag in my book.
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:25 am

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Like I feel regardless of a King flip, the town is just going to go back to the dysfunction we hard earlier.
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:28 am

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and what about emp? has he done anything to tr him for? because the only thing nacho really had was his push on me makes no sense from scum, but I disagree because stubbornness/stupidity can be faked and almost always people write that off as town.
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:37 am

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No, but there is still a slight possibility that King is just VI.

The problem I have with a King lynch is that no one can tell me who is the definite focus for Day 5 regardless of flip. With Gamma it's like, okay, Day 5 should be at the most two hours but with a King lynch, Day 5 is just going to lead to whole bunch of back and forth with no end in sight and a likely compromise on a town slot. I rather not have the town lose that way.
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:07 am

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In post 2402, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:We still have a mislynch left right?

Could everyone else just weigh in? I know this game is boring but the silence is disturbing and ultimately not helpful. If King flips town, who's scum? If Gamma flips town, who's scum?
In post 2404, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:It be easier if we just had one scum left but we have fucking two. I just want to flip the slot that would give the town the most information here before I die.
1. Just because we have a mislynch available doesn't mean we should use it. If you were in a room with 3 Nazis and had 4 bullets in your gun, and they wanted to kill you, would you waste a shot shooting the air leaving you no chance to miss with the other three or would you shoot the Nazis and keep the 4th bullet in the chamber in case one dodged it somehow?
Obviously a ridiculous, exaggerated scenario, but "lynch the goddamned scum" is the moral here.

2. This game is not boring. I don't know where you got that from. And I don't think the preflip associative theories will be much help. I'd rather figure it out after Emp bleeds red.

3. Flipping scum gives us the most information. See point 1. Also, info lynches at this stage in the game are disgusting and you should feel bad for even suggesting it.

4. Whether you die or not, and regardless of Emp's flip, I'll look into Gamma. But we have to lynch scum today or were in a real pickle.
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:22 am

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In post 2410, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:No, but there is still a slight possibility that King is just VI.

The problem I have with a King lynch is that no one can tell me who is the definite focus for Day 5 regardless of flip. With Gamma it's like, okay, Day 5 should be at the most two hours but with a King lynch, Day 5 is just going to lead to whole bunch of back and forth with no end in sight and a likely compromise on a town slot. I rather not have the town lose that way.
actually if king flips scum, josh goes up my radar a bit.

plus if we lynch king and he flips scum, we have allowed us an extra mislynch I think.

I don't see how keeping king around helps town in anyway. he isn't being useful at all.
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:33 am

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Alright, if I don't hear from Sonia tonight, I'll vote for King.
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:37 am

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In post 2411, Aristophanes wrote:2. This game is not boring
yes it is.
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:39 am

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In post 2414, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2411, Aristophanes wrote:2. This game is not boring
yes it is.
Oh.
Maybe it isn't for me because I'm working in limited spurts so it seems more is happening?
Ah well, I rescind that point I guess.
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:48 am

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for me it's frustrating. emp should have been lynched yesterday
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:51 am

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It sucks that the list of people left is so potentially scummy, but rather null in it.

D5 will be a struggle.
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:12 am

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In post 2412, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2410, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:No, but there is still a slight possibility that King is just VI.

The problem I have with a King lynch is that no one can tell me who is the definite focus for Day 5 regardless of flip. With Gamma it's like, okay, Day 5 should be at the most two hours but with a King lynch, Day 5 is just going to lead to whole bunch of back and forth with no end in sight and a likely compromise on a town slot. I rather not have the town lose that way.
actually if king flips scum, josh goes up my radar a bit.

plus if we lynch king and he flips scum, we have allowed us an extra mislynch I think.

I don't see how keeping king around helps town in anyway. he isn't being useful at all.
How is gamma being useful in any way?
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:28 am

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he isn't, but I don't think he is scum with fitz.
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:50 am

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Remember, bad =/= scum.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:58 am

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Josh you seem most adamant. State your case for gamma please.
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:16 am

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i think empking's play is awful + lynchbait regardless of alignment and

i think there are several dead townies advocating strongly for a gamma lynch and

i think a gamma flip provides more info than empking and
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:20 am

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so why does nobody seem to want to lynch gamma?
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:28 am

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nice shiny lynchbait

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