DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Do you think this kind of perspective is assisting the town in any manner? Y/N

Yesbutno.
Yes, recognizing that I am mastina and that I will do mastina things can be productive to the town, if they work with me in helping me get those things to where they are optimal. A sort of unspoken plan guarantee, a silent pact: "mastina is doing this thing. I think I see what it is, and I think I can help her".

No, writing mastina off as just being mastina and doing nothing about it is not helpful to the town. And that's what Cephrir was doing, which is the thing frustrating me about him. He's town here. He should have figured out what I was going for ages ago and synchronized with me. Instead he's not doing anything either way. So he's being useless, rather than useful.

I mean, he held half of it. "mastina is doing this thing." But he can't figure out what it is. Yet commenting on doing the thing isn't helpful. He should instead be focusing on, "now what could it be that she is doing?", figuring it out, and THEN going to, "Okay, finally got it, now I can help her."

Except you're not doing anything but posting like a shitter and now ignoring my actual question in favour of answering a question that

was not directed to you

.

Just saying, anyone reading along. Number of times Mastin has addressed the lack of any kind of focus she's given certain scum reads? 0

Number of times Mastin has talked aboout how she's a bad player or some other self referential bullshit? Too many to count

[xRECKONERx]

*walks in to LLD vs mastin*

[Cheetory6]

I really don't think mastin is
A) pretending to troll
B) actually trolling
at this point.

P-Edit: mastin played the exact same way as town in Signs and Void.
I don't see your point if your point is to say she's scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

*walks in to LLD vs mastin*

THERE IT IS.

THE DREAM.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can die happy now.

[mastina]

So why am i scum mastin

You're not.
You're potentially scum. Basically gut. You've got a fair number of sections in your iso which I can see as scum. You don't give me townvibes to counter that. But I don't really have a scumread on you. Someone well south of null, but who isn't actively scumclaiming whenever they post. (See also: LLD, UT. Ircher and RC to lesser extents.) If my scumreads were wrong, you'd be near the top of the line to fill in the gap. You're also a fine candidate for being the terrorist. But you're not a top priority for me because you're not someone I currently truly believe to be scum. You're the type of player who would be an EXCELLENT cop target: a strong player, unlikely to die any time soon, whose alignment is heavily in question. I'd be copping you or Nahdia, in fact, if I had that power. But since I don't, well, cop's judgement.

[Cephrir]

mastins gonna mastin.

Do you think this kind of perspective is assisting the town in any manner? Y/N

Not really, but I don't think she's scum either.

Far be it for me to ask you to explain a town read, because I think that's just anti town, but...

Do you think this read could be a symptom of Mastin being so fucking bad that you're giving her a pass?

Because I have to say, Mastin was always bad before but this game she's just kicked it up to new levels of terrible, and it makes me question what the motive for that ACTUALLY is, and I'm aware Mastin's given answer will be "I just want to troll" but Mastin seems to care a whole fucking lot for someone who is just trolling until they can nuke someone?

I expect her to play a certain way and I think she is now playing that way. I'll choose not to comment on the quality thereof since either or both of you would yell at me or be sad if I did that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I really don't think mastin is
A) pretending to troll
B) actually trolling
at this point.

P-Edit: mastin played the exact same way as town in Signs and Void.
I don't see your point if your point is to say she's scum.

Meta is useless, especially when you're trying to apply meta to someone whose literal fiirst words in this game were "I'm trying out a new style of playing".

Further, Mastin is, if I know her, someone who actually gives a shit about Meta.

Which means she'll likely know her own.

So why in the fuck does Signs and Void mean jack shit again?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

mastins gonna mastin.

Do you think this kind of perspective is assisting the town in any manner? Y/N

Not really, but I don't think she's scum either.

Far be it for me to ask you to explain a town read, because I think that's just anti town, but...

Do you think this read could be a symptom of Mastin being so fucking bad that you're giving her a pass?

Because I have to say, Mastin was always bad before but this game she's just kicked it up to new levels of terrible, and it makes me question what the motive for that ACTUALLY is, and I'm aware Mastin's given answer will be "I just want to troll" but Mastin seems to care a whole fucking lot for someone who is just trolling until they can nuke someone?

I expect her to play a certain way and I think she is now playing that way. I'll choose not to comment on the quality thereof since either or both of you would yell at me or be sad if I did that.

So another meta case.

On the slot that literally, you know what?

Let me go grab the quote and spam it at you fucks a couple times.

[Untrod Tripod]

it's a pretty shitty style

can we just get on with lynching SS and let mastina go play in the corner so we can just point and laugh when SS flips scum

[Cheetory6]

I'm not calling her town because of it.
I'm saying with the context of mastin's play, your case isn't convincing at all.
There's no angle that you're pushing that means anything to anyone who doesn't already just want mastin dead for being mastin.

[mastina]

DON'T WORRY TAKE A NUMBER IT'LL BE AWHILE BEFORE SHE DECIDES TO ANSWER.

Nah SpyreX gets an answer because there's actually a need to explain a read on him.

There's no such need for you.

[Cephrir]

Mastin basically just uses a lot of words to express reads that amount to just saying what the read is over and over again. I have tried to get reasons out her before and learned it is a pointless endeavir. At best, you will get another long post about what the read is. It's frustrating until you learn to just bypass that and not do it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm not calling her town because of it.
I'm saying with the context of mastin's play, your case isn't convincing at all.
There's no angle that you're pushing that means anything to anyone who doesn't already just want mastin dead for being mastin.

I'm saying that you're giving her a free pass because there are people who want her dead just for being her.

And I think her refusal to answer simple questions and her desire to be impossible to deal with and create noise that way is scummy.

[Cephrir]

Also, she is going to get nuked on the first day of nukes, so there's not all that much point in me worrying about it

[Untrod Tripod]

I meannnnnnnnnnnn I'll nuke her if that'll get your dick hard

Pedit: yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup

[Cheetory6]

I actually just think that her unwillingness to address people is pretty standard from what I expect from her play in general.
She's a self-centric player.
She doesn't ask questions or necessarily answer questions.
She has thoughts and presents them and that's that.

If I'm giving her a free pass it's arguably more because I just don't feel like she's scum and there are other people who feel scummier?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, she is going to get nuked on the first day of nukes, so there's not all that much point in me worrying about it

Ok but so are a shit ton of other people.

Why let easy nukes exist when we can just lynch the shit out of them and use nukes more efficiently?

[Nukebringer]

Also, she is going to get nuked on the first day of nukes, so there's not all that much point in me worrying about it

Pretty much this. It's the only reason there isn't more pressure on her (and honestly that comment about not reading Something_Smart's posts blew any goodwill she had from that stunt with the draft list).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I actually just think that her unwillingness to address people is pretty standard from what I expect from her play in general.
She's a self-centric player.
She doesn't ask questions or necessarily answer questions.
She has thoughts and presents them and that's that.

If I'm giving her a free pass it's arguably more because I just don't feel like she's scum and there are other people who feel scummier?

I'm a fucking self centric player.

I don't give a fuck about ANYONE and I'm TERRIBLE at working with people.

But at least I fucking talk and interact.

She's just in lalaland pretending she's good at this fucking game.

[Nukebringer]

Why let easy nukes exist when we can just lynch the shit out of them and use nukes more efficiently?

I mean, if you can wrangle a swift wagon on her, sure, but as it stands we're weeks away from nukes and we're all getting rather antsy (not to mention the current leading wagons are scummy as fuck anyway).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, she is going to get nuked on the first day of nukes, so there's not all that much point in me worrying about it

Pretty much this. It's the only reason there isn't more pressure on her (and honestly that comment about not reading Something_Smart's posts blew any goodwill she had from that stunt with the draft list).

Right but....

Ok then, theory discussion time. What do we use Nukes for vs. What do we use Lynches for?

[Untrod Tripod]

Also, she is going to get nuked on the first day of nukes, so there's not all that much point in me worrying about it

Ok but so are a shit ton of other people.

Why let easy nukes exist when we can just lynch the shit out of them and use nukes more efficiently?

well there's already a bunch of people voting SS so intertia etc.

[mastina]

I don't actually think she is being particularly toxic?

She's not, actually. This is pretty tame from her. It's actually pretty impressive, really.

I mean, her insults are pretty revealing about her drawing scum, but that's nothing new.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Right but S_S is town.

And I have no idea what to think about UT, because it's essentially a Reck vanity wagon.