Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[goodmorning]

Every one of her posts to me is directed at a townie.

I mean, that could just be playstyle. I do that shit kind of a lot.

Is a lurker!IAI common?

Why is that relevant?

[BlackVoid]

Reading over I don't see how Creature's posts make any sense.

He started off with townreading GreyICE, then said that he doesn't oppose the wagon which looked like he read through and changed his mind. Than said he'd probably get better reads the following day and "hammered." After I pointed it out, he said he was townreading GreyICE all along and the hammer was to look for "reactions."

I don't know if I buy that it was a reaction fake-hammer though. It looked like he saw that Cloud was not going to hammer anytime soon, decided that he wanted a GreyICE lynch, faked a change of heart, and tried to hammer and end the day. Then backtracked when it failed.

Am I getting worked up over nothing?

[TwoFace]

I don't know if I buy that it was a reaction fake-hammer though. It looked like he saw that Cloud was not going to hammer anytime soon, decided that he wanted a GreyICE lynch, faked a change of heart, and tried to hammer and end the day. Then backtracked when it failed.

considering his first post was acknowledging ice was at L-1, that means he saw the VC and his slot voting. Do you really think he forgot who he was voting?

[BlackVoid]

The last VC in 997 still shows "MichelSableheart" voting GreyICE, not Creature. He could have made a mistake and thought his slot wasn't on the wagon.

[TwoFace]

yes, which is why I said he saw his slot was already voting ice. Do you honestly think he forgot? not likely

people fake hammer for reactions all the time on this site. It's really a lame reaction test

[Creature]

Why is that relevant?

Some scum lurk more than they do as town.

[Creature]

I would've moved my vote to Victor if I wasn't planning to take that reaction test (I was waiting GI to come).

[Raskolnikov]

LAST MINUTE FLASHWAGON

VOTE: Hoopla

[Raskolnikov]

Actually fuck it

Intent

[Raskolnikov]

If creature is to be believed though, he's going to switch votes to victor (why not already?) and then twoface will hammer. Presumably after waiting for a claim though?

[I Am Innocent]

Rask, what is the point of declaring Intent? GI claimed. GI stated his final reads. I see no town motivated reason for declaring intent at this point.

[I Am Innocent]

If creature is to be believed though, he's going to switch votes to victor (why not already?) and then twoface will hammer. Presumably after waiting for a claim though?

Nothing presumable about it. A hammer without a claim will be considered a scum claim, and result in auto lynch the next day.

[Raskolnikov]

I don't want these lynches though...

[Creature]

I don't know whom of these I'd rather lynch.

[I Am Innocent]

Guys look at the facts:

BBT's catch up was scummy as all get out
BBT replacing out as he was receiving pressure from his scummy catch up was just as scummy as all get out
GI coming in saying what a great vote Jack is, to voting Victor, and suggesting me for vig, followed up by quickly replacing Jack with Hoopla on his scum reads for reasons I still haven't understood is shady
GI claimed VT, so if we're wrong, it doesn't cost town much
GI, whether scum or town will give us so much information to work with starting D2

It's a friggin no-brainer. I have never in my almost seven years on this site, seen an L-1 wagon for so long and so close to the deadline on a town player. Ever. Scum would have hammered a long time ago, and esp more recently if Victor scum/GI is town.

Just end this day Rask and let's take the information and move forward. If I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll be the #1 candidate for lynch D2. It's a risk I'm willing to take.

[TwoFace]

Nothing presumable about it. A hammer without a claim will be considered a scum claim, and result in auto lynch the next day.

I think it's cute people still say this

[Creature]

I don't think BBT replacing out means anything.

[TwoFace]

Guys look at the facts:

BBT's catch up was scummy as all get out
BBT replacing out as he was receiving pressure from his scummy catch up was just as scummy as all get out
GI coming in saying what a great vote Jack is, to voting Victor, and suggesting me for vig, followed up by quickly replacing Jack with Hoopla on his scum reads for reasons I still haven't understood is shady
GI claimed VT, so if we're wrong, it doesn't cost town much
GI, whether scum or town will give us so much information to work with starting D2

It's a friggin no-brainer. I have never in my almost seven years on this site, seen an L-1 wagon for so long and so close to the deadline on a town player. Ever. Scum would have hammered a long time ago, and esp more recently if Victor scum/GI is town.

Just end this day Rask and let's take the information and move forward. If I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll be the #1 candidate for lynch D2. It's a risk I'm willing to take.

so if ice flips town, what will happen to this "no-brainer"?

[Raskolnikov]

GI and victor both have good points on one another, greyice's given a lot more overall but I feel super exaggerates everything which comes off a little manipulative. But then there's Hoopla who has absolutely no good points going for her except for the greyice quote where she did the exact same thing as town, mislynching someone without a strong read for the "greater good". Which is still disgusting. Rather have them than either tbh. And then there's goodmorning who hasn't really pushed victor at all over greyice and like straight up ignored everything, avoiding talking about either wagon in favour of other people. Damn that lynch would be good. Sottys at least taking some stance on grey+victor even though he's mostly in the background around this.

[Raskolnikov]

Eh give it another day I guess. Cloud (what happened to this guy?) and sotty both said they're going to post something.

[I Am Innocent]

Nothing presumable about it. A hammer without a claim will be considered a scum claim, and result in auto lynch the next day.

I think it's cute people still say this

I think it's cute you don't think I mean it.

[TwoFace]

Nothing presumable about it. A hammer without a claim will be considered a scum claim, and result in auto lynch the next day.

I think it's cute people still say this

I think it's cute you don't think I mean it.

you can mean it, doesn't mean it will actually happen. I don't think I have ever actually seen it happen. Good scum don't draw unnecessary attention to themselves by quick hammering somebody without a claim. It's is usally some idiot townie doing it for the lulz

At some point before this game is over i'll show you an example

[GreyICE]

IAI, the effort to save Victor is noble. But you two are tied together, and I will do everything in my power to ensure you're both going down. I know your play has been so bad that you're quite willing to give up your life, but I'm not letting Victor wiggle out when he's obviously scum as well.

I'll give a cookie to anyone who catches the inherent lie in IAI's summary.

[GreyICE]

Also it's now an information flip.

He can't even stick to it anymore. Burn him and his scumfuck friends, folks.

[VictorDeAngelo]

Actually fuck it

Intent

I'm town mason.

You can either out another mason to confirm or we can just lynch GreyICE like we should have done two days ago and be done with it.