Page 15 of 31
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:13 am
by Heartache
Mmm. I think you're town, you at least seem to really believe in what you're saying.
I really hope I'm right because that'll be fun postgame
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:34 am
by Leonshade
I like Tere's case on Heartache, makes me more confident they're scum. I will sleep on it, but I think I still prefer a BYF lynch today.
@Gamma:
Why would town Heartache mean scum Tere?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:39 am
by Gamma Emerald
Town Heartache may not mean scum Tere, it just means it's something to consider as Tere was rather inconsiderate in that push.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:43 am
by Leonshade
I'm not going to policy lynch someone for impoliteness.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:44 am
by Gamma Emerald
It feels like a scummy push because of the opportunistic feel.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:49 am
by Leonshade
Opportunistic in what way?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:50 am
by Gamma Emerald
Tere ignored the fact she stated she would be gone and decided to push her on the fact she was gone. Reeks of opportunism to me.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:02 am
by Leonshade
Reads as playstyle to me. I believe Tere when he says he ignored Heartache's absence because there was no V/LA tag, and I think town Tere would be just as likely to push his top SR to do more work.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:53 am
by BigYoshiFan
You all better lynch Gamma and Heartache after I die, or you'll lose.
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:30 pm
by Leonshade
What happened to your scumread on me?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:30 pm
by Sgz13
I need to put in some work on this and re-read. Not sure when the 24 hours until the hammer ends but give me a few hours, need to do a couple of RL things then I'll come back and see what I can come up with. I'm just finding myself without much of an opinion at the moment, I think as I stand I'd lynch BYF over Heartache if those are the only two options, not thrilled with either of those lynches though.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:11 am
by Tere
I quite like Gamma's unpacking of his read on me. Feels natural.
BYF's comments re Heartache feel like distancing.
In post 360, Sgz13 wrote:I need to put in some work on this and re-read. Not sure when the 24 hours until the hammer ends but give me a few hours, need to do a couple of RL things then I'll come back and see what I can come up with. I'm just finding myself without much of an opinion at the moment,
I think as I stand I'd lynch BYF over Heartache if those are the only two options, not thrilled with either of those lynches though.
Can you unpack this a bit for me? Do you have a townread on them, if so, why? I know you've talked about Heartache's read on you previously but personally I don't find that compelling. Is there anything else about her you find towny?
If you think BYF and Heartache are town, who could be scum? I know you have a scum read on Gamma, can you talk about that a bit more?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:37 am
by Sgz13
Let me do my re-read Tere, I'll make a lot more sense then I'm sure, I'll unpack everything and you'll know where I stand. Time has gotten the best of me though, I only have 50 minutes and I need to cook and eat, so you'll have to give me until tonight now (sorry for dragging this out, unforeseen circumstances).
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:43 am
by Tere
Sweet.
Hey Leon, I'd really like for Sgz to do his catch up - we have three days to deadline.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:05 am
by Leonshade
Sure, I'm in no rush.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:48 am
by Sgz13
Am I losing it or are the Lion's eyes doing something funny? Just noticed that...
Anyways, that was my way of announcing I'm here and doing all the homework I should have done first time around.
Re-reading D1 makes me feel a bit better about Gamma. I mean who would you protect after that D1? Of course Jaaaaaaaaaaack could have been the NK, but we don't have the luxury of absolute certainties here.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:06 am
by Sgz13
In post 162, Tere wrote:Um, because it's a really terrible idea because maths?
We had a lolhammer and a successful NK, so now at 2 scum 5 town. Jaack might have bodyguarded Leonshade (it's what I would have done with that role) but can't prove that. Whatever.
Policy lynch now and if he's a VI we are at 2:4. Successful NK and 2:3. Lylo tomorrow.... It's been a while but I think that's the maths.
Are you happy to vote reso and if not why not? Be specific
Missed this on first read. Which of Leonshade's 2 D1 posts made him protection worthy for you?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:10 am
by Tere
Heck, you're right. He obvtowned later. I keep forgetting exactly how short Day 1 was, lol.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:14 am
by Gamma Emerald
I don't get why Jaack would have protected me. I don't get why Jaack would have protected
anybody
. Day 1 was so short that no solid reads were likely formed. I believe Jaack was the nightkill choice, and the only thing that will change my mind is the scum telling me differently at some point.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:20 am
by Sgz13
Well I'm feeling better about you based on #368 now.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:23 am
by Leonshade
Too little information to really tell either way, I don't think there's much point in analyzing N1.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:28 am
by Sgz13
I didn't really care about this at the time, doubt I will now, but for thoroughness's sake, what's an Amished tell?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
I believe I covered the Amished tell in-thread. I'll look and tell you if I didn't.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:32 am
by Leonshade
And yes, the lion's eyes are flashing.
I will say that during N1, I thought I was going to pressure Jaack first thing D2, as I didn't like the way he jumped onto the Ari wagon. Not really game-relevant as it ended up not mattering, just a fun fact.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:34 am
by Sgz13
In post 373, Leonshade wrote:I will say that during N1, I thought I was going to pressure Jaack first thing D2, as I didn't like the way he jumped onto the Ari wagon. Not really game-relevant as it ended up not mattering, just a fun fact.
Stop reading the game the exact same way as me! It's freaking me out.
That's why I don't think Jaack was the kill, as he was likely to come under some pressure.