Designer Mafia - GAME OVER!

[Narninian]

yes - yes I did

ok - I'm looking back - are what roles I submitted relevant?
I already mentioned the mafia demoraliser - is there some reason I should say my good role?

[Norinel]

No, I was using you as an example, as we need korais to tell us about the roles bloojay submitted.

[Flying Dutchman]

that requires that korais knows what bloojay submitted....hrm. This may still be a problem.

When a new player replaces into this game, he gets all info the one he replaced had. This includes the 2 submitted roles, Role PM, and night choices & results.

[korais666]

...all of which I currently have. I need to read over the thread, and I'm confused as to which piece of information I need to give and why. You guys want to know the roles bloojay submitted, regardless of what my actual role is?

[FrogGurl]

We don't need to know what your own actual role is. We're currently trying to figure out what roles Leo actually has or could have. And we know that bloojay/you submitted the roles that leo has one of. Trying to figure out if there is indeed a cop role that got submitted, or if Leo's really a cult recruiter. So yeah if you could at least give a summary of the roles that bloojay submitted, that would be a great help.

[korais666]

Ahhh... okay then. My guess from that very basic piece of information is that he's probably cult.

Pro town role is named the crime-fighting duo (at least that was bloojay's name for it). It can either be a vig or a cop each night. It has two lives, and if it dies once, its chance of success with either action drops to 50%. Of course, this could have been tweaked by FD somehow.

The evil role is very very very cult. It is called the Evil Infomercial Psychiatrist, and it recruits people into its cult. If it recruits someone twice, that person becomes a recruiter too. Only the psychiatrist can make new recruiters. There can be no more than 3 recruiters at once. Bloojay also suggested a chance element so that they can't always make a recruitment, just to balance it out.

I'm going to say he's probably the second one, and even if he's not, at least we won't completely kill him if we lynch him.

[Norinel]

You shouldn't have given all the details of the pro-town role, so we could have trapped Leo by asking him for more info.

The Psychiatrist sounds worth killing sooner rather than later. My vote still isn't going anywhere.

[BlueSin]

vote: Leonidas

the two life things....can he be lynch if he is the pro-town?
I tend to 'better be safe than sorry' right now. maybe some of us have been controlled by leo.

[FrogGurl]

From the sounds of it, if the role hasn't been altered too much, if he was pro town and lynched he'd come back again, just less effective. So if we lynch him and he's still alive...then hey we'll know what he is. Heh. But I'd say the gamble's worth it in hopes of pegging a cult recruiter--A role worse than maf.

Just checked, don't currently have a vote on. So...

Vote: Leo

That looks like 4 votes at the moment. 7 to lynch

[willows_weep]

Well gee..thats a powerfule role.
So if leo is lynched now he comes back again? Oh thats only if he is the first one.
So that is pretty safe.

I would be willing to vote but not until next time im on, because by then leo will have time to comment.

[Flying Dutchman]

Vote Count (7 to lynch):

Norinel: 5

(Darkblade, Gaspode, Victoria, mneme, Totem)

Leonidas: 4

(Norinel, Mike Amok, BlueSin, FrogGurl)

FrogGurl: 1

(Leonidas)

Irretractable deadline: Monday 1500 GMT

[Totem]

Long analysys but still undecided. Deadline is close so I must act.

unvote: Norinel vote: Leonidas

Cult is too dangerous. Too bad that korais666 revealed all that info. there was a chance of confirming claim.
Worst case scenario: we have confirmed 50% effective cop or vig tommorrow. and Leo is still alive so we have all his info if he wants to share.

[Narninian]

waiting for Leo's comments

[korais666]

Yeah, you're right, I should have witheld some information. I also didn't know what was going on, or how much info he'd already revealed. I really should have waited to read the thread before I said anything. Going back to read the rest of the thread before I do anything else that stupid.

[Flying Dutchman]

The day started with two bandwagons, Leonidas and Norinel had the honor of being their targets. Everybody seemed to get confused, people switching bandwagons constantly, and FOSing the player they didn't vote for. However, when evening almost came, people started to hurry...........

"We've gotta lynch someone quick!

"Never mind Norinel, let's lynch Leo!"

"Urm, I dunno........."

"What's the problem, he's the Evil Psychiatrist!"

"Not sure, what if he's the Crime-Fighting Duo?"

"Well, we're running out of time, we're lynching him."

"But..... We don't have a majority!"

"That's why we won't lynch him entirely if he's a Duo!"

And thus Leonidas, a part of the Crime-fighting Duo, was lynched.

It is Night 4, choices due friday 1400 GMT.

[Flying Dutchman]

A lot of persons are busy this night. Let's look, for example, at the two persons at

willows_weep

's place.

The first

had forced entrance a while ago, and was waiting for his prey to return. Suddenly,

another person

entered the dark house. He entered the room as silent as possible, never exposing himself to the moonlight, and the first person had a deja-vu: He had done the same not long ago. He thought: 'well, probably willows doesn't want to be seen coming back by bypassers......'. That very moment he was detected.

"Hey, willows!"

"Doh? I was about to say the same!"

"What?!"

*sigh* "We met before, yesterday, didn't we?"

"Yeah, I think so....."

"Well, we're kinda alike, I think, you're here for some blood too?"

Willows_weep, just entering the place after a long night at someone else's place, heard the last sentence.

"Hey, what are you doing here!?"

"We want blood......"

"Yeah, we want blood......"

"What? A friend of yours is wounded? No problem, my target wasn't attacked, I still have some of it with me...."

"No, YOUR blood!"

"Mine? You've gotta go to the hospital in the centre for that, I'm donor, but I don't use my own blood for my clients, I think that's disgusting!"

"Well, we still want it!"

"Well, you won't get it!"

"Oh yes we will!"

Bang.

___________________________________

Somewhere else, around the same time (Well, not quite, it was earlier, but it just sounds good for the story!)

someone

saw light in the Night Shop! It was a brave man, so he decided to check out what was going on......

"Hey! What's happening here?"

"Want a cup of coffee? You're busy late......."

"FULDU!?"

"Yeah, sup?"

"You're alive?"

!? "No, I'm not Fuldu, just some evil person pretending to be him!"

"REALLY?"

"No."

"Oh."

"Well, do you want that coffee or not?"

"Sure!"

___________________________________

Willows_weep is as extinct as a dodo!
Fuldu is back!

There are still 13 alive, but not the same persons as yesterday.
Anyway, still 7 to lynch!

[Fuldu]

I still think we should go with the Cop, even though we haven't heard from him in quite some time.

vote: Norinel

[Fuldu]

Also, it concerns me that both bloojay and korais666 voiced concerns that Leo (who was expressing cop tendencies), didn't really seem like the pro-town role bloojay had submitted. Ummm..., no, he was behaving exactly how I would expect this crime-fighting duo to behave (except for never clearing up the assumptions that I'd made, but still).

Big FOS: korais666

[mneme]

Agreed to both -- fingering a protown role as scum for basically no reason is not just a little bit suspicous, and Norinel we would seem to have a positive Scum ID on.

vote: Norinel
FOS: korais666

[Norinel]

Hmm, what can I say? Well, I can say Leo may have been town, but he was town that couldn't be bothered to read the thread or post much of substance beyond his initial God investigation. And the Duo as bloojay submitted it didn't match up with his accepted claim of cop that loses accuracy with posting.

I can also say that I was blocked last night (By Darkblade if the pm I got from FD is any indication) and we're down a kill. It looks like the reviver can only revive night victims the night after they die, or Leo (Or Dementia Blader) would have seemed to be a more obvious choice of revivee.

Willows' death scene is interesting; looks like (s)he was targetted by both the shooting and slicing killers, or there are still two more mafia.

FOS: Totem

in case jeep's voting for other scum early on is a reasonable indicator- most of his votes so far have been for the three confirmed mafia.

[korais666]

I *didn't* know how he'd acted. I was basing my entire opinion on the 4 or 5 posts before my first one. I didn't hear anything about a vig claim, which is the thing that you'd expect someone to mention. Cult seemed more likely to me, since "cult recruiter" was a good description of the evil role whereas "cop of some sort" was much more vague.

[Darkblade]

Vote Norinel

Yes, I did infact sell my hot, hot body to Norinel. Of course, I still think he's scum. See previous arguements.

[BlueSin]

Vote Norinel

Willows' death scene is interesting; looks like (s)he was targetted by both the shooting and slicing killers, or there are still two more mafia.

I can't find 'sliced' in the night scene. I just can see the 'bang' there....

[mneme]

Korais666: So...you basically helped lynch an innocent by not reading the thread, and realizing the only reason we even considered voting for Leo was that Bloojay (your predecessor) claimed him to be the recruiter? Not exactly pro-town behavior (or even good play, unless you needed him dead for some reason).

[Totem]

I misunderstood information about Crime-fighting Duo completely. I thought Leo was both the cop and the vig and choosing to lynch him will not kill him and only make him weaker. but you are right, something scumy about korais666's behavior.I must think a bit more - was it intentional or not.

I wish I could make this game simple and quick win. This night however I received information that

Norinel is innocent.

The source of the information was exactly the same as Fuldu's before.
Waiting impatiently for Fuldu to speak, welcome back.