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Finally finished the game, the Delta twist was off-putting at first but once everything was explained I was okay with it, overall I think VLR was better, I enjoyed the plot and the twists more and I also think the escape rooms were better

For a while I was totally convinced that Gab was a robot and kept putting his name in first whenever I got prompted with one of those text inputs about who to kill / who was the killer

Thinking about it a bit more I should totally have picked up on Q/Delta existing because the trick that was pulled in VLR with Sigma actually being hella old is precisely along the same lines in terms of PoV and things that the characters take for granted but the player has no idea about

Also, question: in that ending in ZTD where iirc someone with robes and a hood attacks Sigma while it's just Diana and Sigma in the Lounge and then Diana totally thinks it was Phi BUT THEN Phi ends up getting stabbed too and Diana gives her a totally not lesbian-themed hug as she bleeds out—who was the killer then?? Was it evil serial killer lady, the one with the boobs and the annoying boyfriend?

Yeah, that was her unauthorised escape

Character rankings

1 Carlos
2 Diana
3 Phi
4 Mira
5 Sean
6 Junpei
7 Akane
8 Sigma
9 Eric

Character rankings

1 Phi
2 Carlos
3 Sigma
4 Junpei
=5 Akane
=5 Diana
7 Sean
80 Mira
923 Eric

Also, the character who turned out to be Asshole #1 in 999 did a good job of hiding it for most of the game—not so for either of the sequels (especially VLR). Not as fun.

It was so fucking obvious that Mira was the big asshole the whole time. Same with Dio in VLR. I don't even remember who it was in 999. Was it Ace?

Dio I thought was just an asshole instead of pretty much the "guy wanting to murder everyone" of the story until maybe midgame, but literally from the first team vote I was thinking that Q team (and pretty much either Eric or Mira) is going to murder the entire rest of the game given any opportunity to do it. And yeah it was Ace

how else could they pull off ztd then? You already knew Akane/Junpei/Sigma/Phi so you knew they couldnt be psychos. Then theres Diana who wad already described as nice by Luna/VLR. That leaves 4 people, as opposed to 9 in 999 and 7/8 in VLR. Of course its always harder to make it clever in a third installment as opposed to the first or second

I actually liked Q team after having the game finished for two weeks now. They were definitely the most dynamic and the stories werent all that bad. I think everyone just was eager to know how the story ends moreso then being introduced to new stuff that it makes Q team less interesting from that angle

9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors definitely had a great, if not the best, ensemble.

I'm with Gammagooey on the characters in Virtue's Last Reward. The characters in Zero Time Dilemma were a mixed bag. They were either better than those in Virtue's Last Reward or way, way worse, and that killed a lot of the enjoyment for me. I could understand the logical reasons for Eric being Eric, for instance, but it wasn't executed well at all. Delta became really irritating when he was unmasked. Carlos was pretty cool, but someone mentioned here that there didn't seem to be any bad qualities about him and that's definitely true; as fun as Carlos is, he's not a very interesting character. Actually, that seems to be true for everyone on D-Team, too.

Thinking about Diana and Sigma gives me the shivers. Ugh.

Both Virtue's Last Reward and Zero Time Dilemma had excellent game play segments. Virtue's Last Reward was better at snark, though ("If you move one of the yellow jellyfish to the hole instead, you are a failure and we are very disappointed in you"). I preferred Zero Time Dilemma's puzzles, but I strongly suspect that it's because I was able to save in this game whereas I had to re-do things in Virtue's Last Reward sometimes. Thanks, 3DS.

1. Luna
2. Alice
3. Phi
4. Tenmyouji
5. Sigma
6. Quark
7. K
8. Clover
9. Dio

how do you even rank K considering they're two separate characters? you should rank Kyle and aKane separately