I'm not harassing anyone. I was uncomfortable with the person being unwilling to tell me who they are. It had nothing to do with them calling me shea. If they had demonstrated familiarity with me in any other way (say, "hey I noticed that you always do this as scum, try not to do it this game.") I would have reacted in the same way. I don't want to play mafia with someone who knows who I am, but is actively hiding who they are.
Shea is 100% irrelevent to it. And frankly this is a bizarre conversation.
DRK I called you an asshole not because you disagreed with me (Plenty of people disagreed with me on the title, and I didn't call them an asshole.) I am calling you an asshole because you are bringing up something that has nothing to do with the title in an attempt to torpedo it after it already has been accepted. Don't like the title? That's fine. Bringing up things that are not relevant in an attempt to attack it after it has already passed? Being an asshole. What's next? Are you going to bring up that I asked people in site chat to call me "TSQ" as a depressed joke after it didn't pass the first time? Is that relevant? I'm honestly flabbergasted that you went through my scum topics to dig up dirt on me that has no bearing on the current situation, and use it in the same vein as a political attack ad when literally you have no investment in this. Even if you don't like the title, there are tons of titles that are way way way less fitting and make way less sense. I didn't see you digging up any dirt about those titles? So it's hard not to read it as personal. Especially with how completely and utterly not relevant to the situation it is.
In DRK's defense, it was specifically said that Chev wanted to leave these titles open to further discussion for 48 hours, so the it having already been accepted bit is kinda pointless. The rest is up to y'all to discuss, I'm new here and don't have a dog in the fight.
In post 0, Chevre wrote:Meanwhile, the title will remain up for discussion for about 48 extra hours, to work out any remaining discussions and issues.
Hey look it's exactly what this extra time is for..?
I don't see how a discussion that is literally to do with your name has "nothing to do with your title". It hasn't already been passed, that's why there's the 48-hour discussion period. It is not only fine but literally set up for people to bring stuff like that up in this time, as it is relevant to the title and its appropriateness.
DRK was in that game Shea...it was puppy mafia. They weren't "searching through your mafia QTs"...they were in the game. They saw you be incredibly abrasive to a new player for using your name. How is that not relevant? If you aren't (and have shown you arent) okay with new players calling you by your first name, how can this be a fair title...you've made someone feel so bad they replaced out because of an incident involving your name (and proposed title). It just doesn't make sense. I also don't like that advocating for your own title apparently works.
Shea, DRK was in that game, they didn't go dig anything up for it. The PT was made public just a day or two ago, it's fresh in their mind after reading it. The fact that you are attacking and villainizing DRK for wanting to discuss a title in it's 48 hour discussion period is quite awful. On top of that, you in no way should be advocating for your own title right now, let alone going after anyone who disagrees with it. There's a 48 hour discussion period for a reason, and nobody should be harassed while using it.
In post 727, Thestatusquo wrote:DRK I called you an asshole not because you disagreed with me (Plenty of people disagreed with me on the title, and I didn't call them an asshole.) I am calling you an asshole because you are bringing up something that has nothing to do with the title in an attempt to torpedo it after it already has been accepted. Don't like the title? That's fine. Bringing up things that are not relevant in an attempt to attack it after it has already passed? Being an asshole. What's next? Are you going to bring up that I asked people in site chat to call me "TSQ" as a depressed joke after it didn't pass the first time? Is that relevant? I'm honestly flabbergasted that you went through my scum topics to dig up dirt on me that has no bearing on the current situation, and use it in the same vein as a political attack ad when literally you have no investment in this. Even if you don't like the title, there are tons of titles that are way way way less fitting and make way less sense. I didn't see you digging up any dirt about those titles? So it's hard not to read it as personal. Especially with how completely and utterly not relevant to the situation it is.
I linked the mafia PT of a game that we were both in that just ended and you're acting as though it means I searched through your entire post history in some sort of weird crusade against you. Nice.
Unless that's what makes me an asshole, it honestly still sounds like you think I'm an asshole for disagreeing with the title. Not everything is personal.
In post 728, Shaziro wrote:In DRK's defense, it was specifically said that Chev wanted to leave these titles open to further discussion for 48 hours, so the it having already been accepted bit is kinda pointless. The rest is up to y'all to discuss, I'm new here and don't have a dog in the fight.
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this is normal levels of MS overreactions and arguments caused by misunderstanding the other person's pov
probably leave now while you still can
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I really like the Shea title and I think all of the approved titles are very neat!
So TSQ got uptight when someone knew who they were,but he didn't know them. This is irrelevant, as Shea said, and the title would eliminate much of that awkward interaction.
I think it is awesome and the repeal is amazing!
Thank you for listening Chev! It really is appreciated and shows how seriously you take this!
After a title is nommed and accepted it is up to the person nommed whether they accept or not, isn't it? So this conversation should revolve around whether TSQ wants it as a title and not whether someone else thinks he doesn't want it. :/ That's just my opinion though. It's a silly thing to fight over anyways guys
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In post 727, Thestatusquo wrote:I am calling you an asshole because you are bringing up something that has nothing to do with the title in an attempt to torpedo it after it already has been accepted.
I think DRK point here, and maybe I am misinterpreting, is that if you accept "Shea" are you going to get angry again at a player/alt calling you "Shea" when you don't know them/played with them?
Cause thats the incident that was quoted....Like if you get annoyed certain people call you "Shea" it may not be a good title for you.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
I agree with DRK and co. here. The understanding, or my new understanding, is that TSQ as shea is so deeply ingrained in this site's history and community. If we grant a title that is literally your first name, your preferred name to be called at least by the people you trust on this site, then you would have to be prepared for anyone and everyone to call you Shea, I think.
I don't think it's enough for me to revoke the title again, but I'm certain I will stick to my guns in the future.
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