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Well yeah I do beleive he was too harsh and insulted chev a lot
But chev needs to avoid applying his personal opinion about the title or person when he is deciding about titles. His job is to decide if the title is overall good and applicable or not. He might nth or anti nom if he has a personal opinion about the title
Thats my opinion. He is doing great just this was something on my mind about this thread.
Edit : sorry chev I was confused on your genderLast edited by Frozen Angel on Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.False tears bring pain to those around you
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what makes you think accountant dislike it, that i didnt already ask him if hed accept it or that he doesnt like being different (have you read his posts)?In post 2444, animorpherv1 wrote:As someone who received a title based on negative connotations in the past,Anti-Nom.The only reason I keep the current one is because I like being different.
Spoiler: sitechat logLast edited by TheButtonmen on Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Accountant Jack of All Trades
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I think that Chevre has made good faith attempts to explain his decisions behind title judgements and that I do not have any issue or serious disagreement with any of themThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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It wasn't to this title only. It was just how I felt. If majority feels otherwise then completely ignore meIn post 2451, Shaziro wrote:I think it goes beyond "Do I like the thing that happened that they're now suggesting a title about" and into "Does the thing the title is about seem like something good to have remembered and commemorated on the site". I don't think it's a personal opinion about the person.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Accountant Jack of All Trades
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I think excessive personal insults to someone in their own domain is kinda uncalled forThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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@TBM: I'm sure Accountant is fine with it now. That is not my problem. My problem is that it's not ok to use someone's title as a method of belittling them as people do with mine and I'm sure they will with this. It makes the title feel awful."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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I think you may have slightly misread what Chevre said. When he said about "causing people a lot of needless agony", he's not talking about Accountant in general, he's talking about Accountant's views. Hence why "I can't think of a time whereIn post 2436, TheButtonmen wrote:
Fuck literally everything about that.In post 2433, Chevre wrote:. I mostly agree with Davsto and Psyche on this issue. Accountant's outlook on the world is certainly notable, but it's not something to commemorate. Frankly, I think he's caused a lot people needless agony due to his uncompromising nature. I can't think of a time where it was a joy rather than a point of stress.RejectDeus Vult
I don't say that because I personally like the title, I say this as a former title fairy, fuck that rational so very fucking hard. You don't fucking get to play favourites, I don't care if you think Accountant is the biggest piece of shit since Genghis Khan decided to take the mongols on a road trip. It's notable, it's got lasting appeal and it's so very very strongly resonates with him. Get the fuck off your high horse you unbelievable arrogant piece of shit, we don't bother doing the job to get to decide who's beliefs are "worthy" of a title or who's posting we like enough to reward.
Is it a good title yes or no? The second start adding anything else to the decision process then its time to hang up your hat and give the role to some new blood because you've stopped doing it as a service to the site and started doing it to stroke your own ego.was a joy rather than a point of stress".it
And as a result of the way people generally react to Accountant views, the title becomes inappropriate. Especially since those suggesting the title such as Shaziro are those that seem to have been annoyed and frustrated the most by Accountant's views and arguments with him, so that makes me doubt any sincerity in the suggestion of the title itself. The purpose of a title is to celebrate the trait that it represents, not to just acknowledge its existence, and definitely not to subtly (or not-so-subtly) criticise it, such as by the titleliterally referencing the Crusades.
(Also, "lasting appeal" is a pretty arguable term when this is probably the title I've seen the most anti-noms for, ever).-
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nom nahdia forYesterday is a Story, Youthful Reminiscence, Once Upon a Time, Clockwork Creative, Vulture Telling (both edgar allan poe quotes), Happily Experienced, Back in my Day (pretty terrible but whatever), Product of the Past, The Past is Never Dead
ideas from sitechat.
EDIT: Looking back, I really really like Clockwork Creative. That references the Edgar Allan Poe storytelling while also having the creative nature of Nahdia's posts. Again, I really like that one.Last edited by Killthestory on Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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correctIn post 2457, Davsto wrote:he's talking about Accountant's views
the title fairys job is not to judge whos views are acceptable or worth rewarding
thats hubris of an extent that needs to be squashed
my title is literally calling me a hard ass and thats fine because its part of who i am on msIn post 2457, Davsto wrote:The purpose of a title is to celebrate the trait that it represents, not to just acknowledge its existence, and definitely not to subtly (or not-so-subtly) criticise it, such as by the title literally referencing the Crusades.
accountant is a believer, he is assured in the rightouness of his cause and will strive forward no matter how many people nay-say him, what barriers are placed in his way or how popular it makes him
he is crusading for what believes is right, it is and will always be a part of who he is on ms
look at ani's title, mykos title or my title for three examples off the top of my head, it's part of who we are, we own it and accountant owns his he isnt going to bend or change who he is for our approvalLast edited by TheButtonmen on Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:15 pm, edited 2 times in total.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Nom Accountant forDevil's Advocate.
His views are more than likely not shared by anyone. This is okay. Devil's Advocate doesn't have much of a negative connotation if you're wondering.
Also, one that I wanted to bring up because I still think it's good. Certifiably Perfect. I realize Accountant said he liked this title, but regardless, I still think it's genuinely good. His views are of a utopia he hopes to create, and he strives to be perfect. Strictly Perfect also works because of his strict views on it.
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nth because I saw the explanation in sitechat, but pls explain.
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Ok explaining the Nahia title thats a character of story teller girl in "one thousand and one nights" and it fits Nahdia's persona so much!
nthLast edited by Frozen Angel on Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Myko is a devils advocate, Accountant is a true believer
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Its really unique thoughIn post 2468, hiplop wrote:Not crazy about it, but it seems alright. I think something that isn't just the name would be better, though. Something more unique to nahdia?
Its exactly her character if you know the book you can judge itFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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Davsto He/HimFarce of HabitHe/Him
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Okay let me put it a different wayIn post 2459, TheButtonmen wrote:
correctIn post 2457, Davsto wrote:he's talking about Accountant's views
the title fairys job is not to judge whos views are acceptable or worth rewarding
thats hubris of an extent that needs to be squashed
> Virtually every single person I've seen on this forum reacts with disdain to a proportion of Accountant's views when he discusses them, particularly the ones that lead to this title being nominated.
> Shaziro, who suggested the nom, is one of the ones who has shown the most disdain.
> The title is a reference to the Crusades. The Crusades! A series of religious wars where approximately 1.7 million people were killed.
Can you tell me, in all honesty and seirousness, that this is a "good" title? One that isn't intended to insult or degrade? One that is intended as a "gift" to someone that "possess notable traits or quirks that make them outstanding members of the community"?
Admittedly, it's not up to Chevre to decide whose views are acceptable. But that'snot what he's doing. He's saying that the title is unacceptablebecause it is not a positive representation of Accountant's viewsregardless of how much he agrees, something which can be told by looking at the people supporting the title and then looking at how they feel about Accountant's views.-
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Hey, please don't say that I suggested Deus Vult, I didn't. I specifically avoided it because I know that Accountant didn't like being compared to a crusader, and instead went for a nom that I felt captured his ideas without being insulting. When I was told that folks thought that was still insulting, I went for another one that was even less likely to be seen as insulting. I wanted to get him a title that represented his ideas having an impact on the community, not to insult him. Again, there's a reason I didn't nth Deus Vult, but did suggest and still support Ideal > Real.-
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I present to you Chevre's post.In post 2471, Davsto wrote:Admittedly, it's not up to Chevre to decide whose views are acceptable. But that's not what he's doing. He's saying that the title is unacceptable because it is not a positive representation of Accountant's views
He is categorically not doing that Davsto, if he in fact had said that I'd have kept my mouth shut. Instead he explicitly targets Accountant's views, don't white wash it.In post 2445, kraska77 wrote:Accountant's outlook on the world is certainly notable, but it's not something to commemorate. Frankly, I think he's caused a lot people needless agony due to his uncompromising nature. I can't think of a time where it was a joy rather than a point of stress.
Yes.In post 2471, Davsto wrote:Can you tell me, in all honesty and seirousness, that this is a "good" title?Last edited by TheButtonmen on Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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That is one awfully long title.In post 2458, Killthestory wrote:nom nahdia forYesterday is a Story, Youthful Reminiscence, Once Upon a Time, Clockwork Creative, Vulture Telling (both edgar allan poe quotes), Happily Experienced, Back in my Day (pretty terrible but whatever), Product of the Past, The Past is Never Dead
We should probably trim it down.
YiaSYROUaTCCVT(beapq)HEBimD(ptbw)PotPTPiND is slightly shorter!
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